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B) Also on a piece of paper you write a square where a mine is. If your opponent step on it he "explodes". It's still your opponent move afterward. You can place your bomb on an other square (Or the same).
Also known as "trap door chess". Look for the video from season 2 (1968) of the TV science fiction series "Land of the Giants", (titled "Deadly Pawn") in which a game of "living" trap door chess is played, and the good guys try to avoid falling through.
Don't forget "Ministers" - a 9x9 board with extra Queens. http://www.ministerschess.com/ (note that a tournament will be held at Chess and Math in Montreal on Oct. 21).
Kriegspiel is another one of my favourites. Leo Williams once played 3 games of it simultaneously - writing his moves/attempts on pieces of paper, and passing them to the referee. I have the gamescores somewhere (1 win; 1 loss; 1 draw).
By the way, draws in progressive chess are very rare.
Last edited by Hugh Brodie; Thursday, 27th September, 2012, 05:58 PM.
There is at least one board game (GO MOKU) I play with friends now and then that's described as having a forced (even easy) win (for the side moving first) in at least one book I've been told of, at least when the game is played on a standard 19x19 GO board. However, we play GO MOKU merely as light preparation for other games such as GO itself, Shogi and Chinese Chess.
Go Moku has a forced easy win if you play "place stones alternately, first with 5 in a row wins". This is why for centuries the first player had some restrictions on opening play. Then it's extremely complex play.
A completely different game for a chess set is Arimaa. Each piece moves one square at a time, but heavy pieces can push/pull light pieces and you get four moves per turn. Winner is whoever gets a rabbit (pawn) to the other side of the board. There's more to the rules than that, but it's extremely complex to play, and appears (surprisingly) to have deeper strategy even than chess.
I would also love more Chess 960 or Fisher random tournament.. it would save me from having to comeback from -1.00/-2.00 disadvantage like I have to most of the time..
The ICCF Webserver offers Chess 960 events. It seems they pair an event as soon as they have 5 players who enter. I assume each player plays 2 games with each opponent, one with white and one with black, with each opponent for a total of 8 games. It's correspondence chess if you like that kind of thing.
They allow online entries so I assume they take something like Pay pal but I've never entered anything online from them.
Progressive chess - I played in the "World Internet Progressive Chess Championship" some years ago after making it through the preliminaries. The organizer was trying to collect enough data from competent players to prove that it was a win for one side or the other. (no definite conclusion, but a Benoni-type start for Black seemed to give Black a slight edge). It's hard to get a computer to help with your analysis. :-)
There is at least one board game (GO MOKU) I play with friends now and then that's described as having a forced (even easy) win (for the side moving first) in at least one book I've been told of, at least when the game is played on a standard 19x19 GO board. However, we play GO MOKU merely as light preparation for other games such as GO itself, Shogi and Chinese Chess.
I imagine a forced win for one side in Progressive Chess might be hard to prove, but proving it wouldn't surprise me nearly as much as proving that the game should result in a draw with error-free play. :)
Partly thanks to computer chess playing programs eclipsing humans, the chess variant that interests me the most at the moment would be double chess, as I've indicated elsewhere. If it or another variant ever replaced standard chess, I'd prefer that the number of legal moves and possible positions far exceeded standard chess, yet still without it having inordinate complexity for its basic rules.
Chess960 (aka Fischerrandom) tournament nights happen at least once a year at the RA club in Ottawa (same for specific opening theme tournament nights for standard chess).
[edit: I haven't played in the chess960 tournaments yet, as my previous post might imply]
Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Thursday, 27th September, 2012, 12:54 PM.
There was a game being sold in Saint John at the 1988 Chess Festival (hosting Candidates matches). It involved constructing a board with interlocking squares, so that the board could be highly irregular. I forget the name of the game, but I played some games of it.
It's called Choiss - it came to Scarborough Chess Club in the late 80s, too.
1. Chess
2. Bughouse (double-chess)
3. Fischer random 960
4. Two-moves chess
5. Kriegspiel
6. Progressive Chess
7. Take me chess, giveaway chess, looser. We called it Chapaev. How could I forgot this funny game
8. Replacement chess
9. Crazyhouse
10. etc
I'm thinking as a question: five most popular chess variants.
Did anyone mention Monster Chess? (W has K + 4 Ps; B has the full army. But the W "monster" gets 2 moves each turn - and can even move in and out of check.) We used to play that a bit, back in high school.
I liked Omega Chess when I played a couple games at a TIO. Bughouse is the most popular around here, but I don't care much for it. Crazyhouse. Loser's Chess.
And I wish there were Chess 960 tournaments. I would be happy if that were regularly played.
Thought to make a poll what chess variants you play from time to time.
Possible candidates with a full set.
Chess
Bughouse (double-chess)
Fischer random 960
Two-moves chess.
Only four variants I play or played. If you know other variant and at least five people play it, write it down and it will be included in the poll. Otherwise all will go as "ETC".
I invented psychic chess. It has never caught on but then I know it wouldn't. However, I will say there are no draws in psychic chess.
1. Chess
2. Bughouse (double-chess)
3. Fischer random 960
4. Two-moves chess
5. Kriegspiel
6. Progressive Chess
7. Take me chess, giveaway chess, looser. We called it Chapaev. How could I forgot this funny game
8. Replacement chess
9. Crazyhouse
10. etc
I'm thinking as a question: five most popular chess variants.
A suggestion I'd have is to have the poll question specify that a respondent has recently (within the last year?) played any number of the above choices with someone. I haven't played any sort of variant at all, aside from standard chess, for decades, other than double chess (and that was over a year ago, but within the last three years, I think).
On the other hand, if altogether different board games like Shogi were included (which I don't wish for) it would be different. Perhaps all chess variants in the poll should require one or more standard chess sets to play!?
1. Chess
2. Bughouse (double-chess)
3. Fischer random 960
4. Two-moves chess
5. Kriegspiel
6. Progressive Chess
7. Take me chess, giveaway chess, looser. We called it Chapaev. How could I forgot this funny game
8. Replacement chess
9. Crazyhouse
10. etc
I'm thinking as a question: five most popular chess variants.
Just to be clear for Egidijus: two players are playing on one board. For example, you capture the opponent's White Q (say on d3) and you are mandated to replace that captured piece on any empty square on the board as part of your move. No one is ever up material. The games are generally pretty long from what I've seen but basically you try to capture things like Ns and Qs and replace them in some corner so it takes the opponent a bunch of moves to mobilize them back into the game.
A sample game snippet:
1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.d4 exd4 (and Black places the captured White P on say d2)
4.Nxd4 (and White places the captured Black P on say e6)
4...Nxd4 (and Black places the captured White N on say d3)
At all times there are 32 units on the board. You can never "win" material, you can only make your opponent's pieces really bad and strip his K of shelter by capturing nearby units and sending them far away. ;-)
- Replacement chess. You capture your opponent's pieces and you can put them on any empty square on the board, i.e. the board always has 32 units on it.
I used to play this with at least five different people decades ago in Toronto (in Toronto, at least, it was called bughouse, and what has been called bughouse lately [at least] was called double chess - calling that siamese chess or bughouse was frowned upon ).
Progressive chess - I played in the "World Internet Progressive Chess Championship" some years ago after making it through the preliminaries. The organizer was trying to collect enough data from competent players to prove that it was a win for one side or the other. (no definite conclusion, but a Benoni-type start for Black seemed to give Black a slight edge). It's hard to get a computer to help with your analysis. :-)
Hugh, has there ever been a variant of progressive chess that went like this:
(1) White makes 1 move.
(2) Black makes 2 moves.
(3) White makes 2 moves.
(4) Black makes 2 moves.
(5) White makes 2 moves.
etc ?
In other words, the advantage of an extra move just keeps flipping between White and Black. Of course, there would be a rule that says making 2 moves must be done with 2 different pieces, and the first move cannot give check.
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