Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!

    Originally posted by Gordon Ritchie View Post
    Some would argue that the strongest player Canada ever produced, in relantion to his era, was Abe Yanofsky.
    I'd go with Kevin Spraggett. I guess, like you say, it's opinion.

    I've sometimes wondered why those who give up chess for a career don't try to stay involved like in the old days.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
    I don't know about the past Canadian greats and so I'm not going to try and compare Eric with any of them.

    What I see is a pretty impressive rating at a young age with potential to get even higher. While at his current rating he might not match the all-time greats like Yanofsky, Suttles, Spraggett, Lesiege etc. especially when adjusting for inflation, the advantage that Eric still possesses is his young age and the fact that most of his achievements is based on his own discipline and self-study. He didn't come from the Soviet school of chess or studied in any specific chess school, he did it mostly on his own and a private coach here and there.

    I believe that most chess players peak at around age 25-35, similar to lots of other professional sports like baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey etc. and so he still has some years left in the tank to aim for 2600, and then maybe 2700 with some luck and good timing. After that, who knows, Nakamura was bouncing around high 2600s low 2700 for a long time before finally jumping into the world stage as one of the top players in the world. It's fully possible for Eric to do the same but obviously, when someone tries to achieve greatness in such a specialized field, it's going to be a hard, grueling journey and sacrifices will have to be made.

    Also, I don't see Anton as Canadian - he's fully Argentinian, playing in the summer tournaments and winning the Quebec junior every year does not make him a home-grown Canadian player in my eyes.
    All very good points. Thanks for the excellent analysis.

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  • Bindi Cheng
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    Re: Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!

    I don't know about the past Canadian greats and so I'm not going to try and compare Eric with any of them.

    What I see is a pretty impressive rating at a young age with potential to get even higher. While at his current rating he might not match the all-time greats like Yanofsky, Suttles, Spraggett, Lesiege etc. especially when adjusting for inflation, the advantage that Eric still possesses is his young age and the fact that most of his achievements is based on his own discipline and self-study. He didn't come from the Soviet school of chess or studied in any specific chess school, he did it mostly on his own and a private coach here and there.

    I believe that most chess players peak at around age 25-35, similar to lots of other professional sports like baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey etc. and so he still has some years left in the tank to aim for 2600, and then maybe 2700 with some luck and good timing. After that, who knows, Nakamura was bouncing around high 2600s low 2700 for a long time before finally jumping into the world stage as one of the top players in the world. It's fully possible for Eric to do the same but obviously, when someone tries to achieve greatness in such a specialized field, it's going to be a hard, grueling journey and sacrifices will have to be made.

    Also, I don't see Anton as Canadian - he's fully Argentinian, playing in the summer tournaments and winning the Quebec junior every year does not make him a home-grown Canadian player in my eyes.

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  • Gordon Ritchie
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    Some would argue that the strongest player Canada ever produced, in relantion to his era, was Abe Yanofsky.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    Another thread down the tubes... thanks.
    There was nothing to argue on the main thread. The fact was too plain :D Lets wait till he beats the BC highest rated player Hikaru N.

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  • Kevin Me
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    Can you now explain why you have the both the correct quote (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.) and an incorrect quote (Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it) all in the same quotations, separated by ... as if both things were said by George Santayana in the same work? That's pretty sloppy and somewhat disrespectful for someone who claims to study Santayana. It's not something that someone who has actually read the work should do. If I did that on an academic paper I would have a lot of marks deducted, I might even fail for not quoting correctly and attributing my own words to someone else ie putting words in Santayana's mouth. Doing so so that I can then write the rest of my paper as if he had said that. That's academic dishonesty.
    a) not academic dishonesty
    b) lol
    c) lol

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  • Kerry Liles
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    Another thread down the tubes... thanks.

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  • Emil Smilovici
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    Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post

    “History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

    “History is that certainty produced at the point where the imperfections of memory meet the inadequacies of documentation.”

    “No matter what your history has been, your destiny is what you create today.”

    or some other quote that I'm sure you can find.
    “The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.”

    "History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there." - Santayana

    "Those who misquote George Santayana are condemned to paraphrase him."
    Last edited by Emil Smilovici; Wednesday, 8th May, 2013, 01:30 PM.

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  • David Ottosen
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    Can you now explain why you have the both the correct quote (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.) and an incorrect quote (Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it) all in the same quotations, separated by ... as if both things were said by George Santayana in the same work? That's pretty sloppy and somewhat disrespectful for someone who claims to study Santayana. It's not something that someone who has actually read the work should do. If I did that on an academic paper I would have a lot of marks deducted, I might even fail for not quoting correctly and attributing my own words to someone else ie putting words in Santayana's mouth. Doing so so that I can then write the rest of my paper as if he had said that. That's academic dishonesty.
    newsflash: chesstalk is not an academic paper.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
    maybe you should just counter quote...

    ...
    Those are so mild.

    Grab this one:
    Dwell on the past, and you will lose an eye; forget the past, and you will lose both.
    :D

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    Can you now explain why .......
    Hikaru, this is all very entertaining, but before you respond,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCq2T7zclXY :D

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Hikaru Nakamura View Post
    It is really too bad that the true hero of the north who defended board 1 in Turin and defeated the world champion never gets any praise...

    As the saying goes, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ... Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
    Can you now explain why you have the both the correct quote (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.) and an incorrect quote (Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it) all in the same quotations, separated by ... as if both things were said by George Santayana in the same work? That's pretty sloppy and somewhat disrespectful for someone who claims to study Santayana. It's not something that someone who has actually read the work should do. If I did that on an academic paper I would have a lot of marks deducted, I might even fail for not quoting correctly and attributing my own words to someone else ie putting words in Santayana's mouth. Doing so so that I can then write the rest of my paper as if he had said that. That's academic dishonesty.

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  • Caesar Posylek
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    Originally posted by Aman Hambleton View Post


    It seems appropriate for Canada's newest GM to finally claim the spot as Canada's #1 player on the FIDE list. Congrats! :D
    I think # 1 chess player in Canada is GM Anton Kovalyov.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Re: Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!

    Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
    maybe you should just counter quote...

    “History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

    “History is that certainty produced at the point where the imperfections of memory meet the inadequacies of documentation.”

    “No matter what your history has been, your destiny is what you create today.”

    or some other quote that I'm sure you can find.

    The easiest way to show that an anodyne saying is empty of substantive meaning is to counter with an opposing anodyne vacuous saying.

    e.g. Haste makes waste! but A stitch in time saves nine!
    A good idea but that's how we got into this mess. I countered that: Those who don't know algebra are doomed to repeat it. And here we are.

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  • Roger Patterson
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    Re: Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!

    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    It's a silly quote. More often wrong than right.....
    maybe you should just counter quote...

    “History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

    “History is that certainty produced at the point where the imperfections of memory meet the inadequacies of documentation.”

    “No matter what your history has been, your destiny is what you create today.”

    or some other quote that I'm sure you can find.

    The easiest way to show that an anodyne saying is empty of substantive meaning is to counter with an opposing anodyne vacuous saying.

    e.g. Haste makes waste! but A stitch in time saves nine!

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