Trump: Set to declare 2024 presidential bid tonight; will indictments follow soon?

[Neil Frarey]

Just come out and say it, Bob A. ... president Trump saved my life.

Thank you president Trump.

Thank you capitalism.

[Neil Frarey]

President Trump knew EXACTLY what do to when the entire world needed a COVID solution.

Governments get out of the way ... enable private corporations to do what they do best.

That's called Capitalism, Bob A.

Did it save your life, too?

Did it???

Give the guy a Nobel Peace Prize!

C'mon man!

[Bob Armstrong]

Full credit to "Operation Warp Speed".

Your example is what one calls an "anomaly".

For your edification:

anomaly \uh-NAH-muh-lee\ noun. 1 : something different, abnormal, peculiar, or not easily classified : something anomalous. 2 : deviation from the common rule : irregularity.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly

Bob A (Anti-capitalist)

[Neil Frarey]

Though Trump's pandering to the large corporations/their owners/their CEO's, especially in the fossil fuel industries, is its own form of autocracy/oligarchy.


Bob A

Just three words for you Bob A. ... Operation Warp Speed ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

President Trump + Large Corporations = Nobel Peace Prize

Get over Bob A. ... that mRNA coursing thru your veins is directly ... DIRECTLY ... due to president Trump + Large Corporations.

So in your humble view lawyer Bob A. ... just how many lives did president Trump + large corporations save???

A billion? Perhaps 2 billion? More ... ???

Operation Warp Speed




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[Dilip Panjwani]

I fear the acceptance of on the street revolution will ramp up quickly under Libertarianism.

Libertarianism will drive the wealth/income gap wider than even regulated capitalism. The poor, who have nothing to lose, when oppressed, will start to publicly object.

As well, as in the wild west days of the nostalgic American saga, crime was rampant, except for regulation by some amazing American Sheriffs.....the gangs ruled.......we've seen them ride into town and have their way with the ordinary city folk. Will be no different with Libertarianism, both on the economic, and social, fronts.

The plan that the rich will impose austerity on the poor is bound to fail (Listen up Milei).

The future: Cooperation over Competition; Socialism over Capitalism. It is destined to be. Capitalism is imploding. The world economy has been a mess for the last years. Any recovery is just masking the foundational weakness of Capitalism.

Bob A

Dystopia is a characteristic of Marxism, not Libertarianism, Bob, for the simple reason that enforcement of the Natural Law and easy access to capital for all creates Utopia, while oppression of the hard & smart working by the 'entitlement-oriented' leads to unfairness and downfall of Marxist societies, as history has shown repeatedly...

[Bob Armstrong]

This thread is being totally high-jacked...

Though Trump's pandering to the large corporations/their owners/their CEO's, especially in the fossil fuel industries, is its own form of autocracy/oligarchy.

Maybe we need, though, to bring some of this to the Democratic Marxism thread?

Bob A

[Bob Armstrong]

I fear the acceptance of on the street revolution will ramp up quickly under Libertarianism.

Libertarianism will drive the wealth/income gap wider than even regulated capitalism. The poor, who have nothing to lose, when oppressed, will start to publicly object.

As well, as in the wild west days of the nostalgic American saga, crime was rampant, except for regulation by some amazing American Sheriffs.....the gangs ruled.......we've seen them ride into town and have their way with the ordinary city folk. Will be no different with Libertarianism, both on the economic, and social, fronts.

The plan that the rich will impose austerity on the poor is bound to fail (Listen up Milei).

The future: Cooperation over Competition; Socialism over Capitalism. It is destined to be. Capitalism is imploding. The world economy has been a mess for the last years. Any recovery is just masking the foundational weakness of Capitalism.

Bob A

[Pargat Perrer]

All of Trump's sins can be forgiven if he manages to free America of all Marxist ideas...

It's a slippery slope from that statement to this one:

"All sins can be forgiven if it frees us all of all Marxist ideas."

More evidence that Libertarianism would put us all in a police state.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Trump & The VEEP Pool

https://messaging-custom-newsletters...d396a4debfd6ce

Bob (Anti-Trump - declaring my bias)

All of Trump's 'sins' can be forgiven if he manages to free America of all Marxist ideas...

[Neil Frarey]

Grabbed a bag of popcorn for the fall of the Biden crime family, ha!

Starting with the prosecution of crack head Hunter with his laptop from hell. You know ... the laptop that Lying Joe Biden denied existed during the debate with Trump right in front of a national audience.

10% for the Big Guy ... Hunter's father Joe Biden, ha!

3 of crack head Hunter's former business partners are testifying against him and his Big Guy dad.

The fall of the Biden crime family ... grab that bag of popcorn folks!!!

C'mon man! Fun times!

That laptop ... LOOL ... Big Guy to share a prison cell with his now CONVICTED son???

C'mon man!

[Bob Armstrong]

Trump & The VEEP Pool

https://messaging-custom-newsletters...d396a4debfd6ce

Bob (Anti-Trump - declaring my bias)

[Pargat Perrer]

We're talking about white racists here, Neil. Tim Scott is black (but kudos to him for making a big effort to reach out to minority voters).

I think maybe Tim Scott is BINO (Black In Name Only). If his first name was Al, he'd be AlBINO LOL

EDIT: jokes aside, I think Scott is just another opportunist politician .... he is in the running for Trump VP pick .... color him SURPRISED! LOL

[Peter McKillop]

...

Tim Scott, a potential Trump VP pick, launches a $14 million outreach effort to minority voter

AP ... The Associated Press

https://apnews.com/article/tim-scott...c08ca09671843b

Ending your race war, ha!

We're talking about white racists here, Neil. Tim Scott is black (but kudos to him for making a big effort to reach out to minority voters).

[Bob Armstrong]

Legal Problems - Criminal Case # 3 (Of 4) – Falsifying Corp. Docs # 1 (Hush Money)

Prosecutor: Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, under New York Attorney General, Letitia James. Senior Counsel to the DA is Matthew Colangelo, with Ms. Susan Hoffinger.

Manhattan Criminal Court Charge: Falsifying corporate documents # 1

34 counts of falsification of New York business records in an attempt to cover up hush-money payments to Stephanie A. Gregory Clifford, known professionally as Stormy Daniels, an American pornographic film actress, director and former stripper. Stephanie claims she had an extramarital affair with Trump, which he vehemently denies.
Mr. Bragg further accuses Mr. Trump of trying to hide “damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election". Public disclosure of this could have derailed Trump's stunning victory in the 2016 presidential election.

Note: Mr. Bragg seeks a "felony" conviction for what would normally be a "misdemeanor". He argues that the intent to commit or conceal another crime (By making the illegal hush money payment), including breaking “state and federal election laws,” raises the charge to a felony, punishable by up to four years in prison, under New York law.

Interim Motions & Decisions (prior to trial): See Post # 231 (24/4/12)

Start of Trial (Mon. 24/4/15) - Trial Judge Juan Manuel Marchan

Live Trial Updates – May have Jury Verdict & Judge Marchan's Judgment: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04...d396a4debfd6ce

This is the first criminal prosecution of a former American president. It may be the only one of the 4 current criminal cases against Trump where the trial gets started in 2024.

Trial Opening Statement - Prosecutor

“This is a case about a criminal conspiracy,” Mr. Colangelo told the jury. “The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election.”

Mr. Colangelo then began to unfold, step by step, how Mr. Trump and Mr. David Pecker, [National Enquirer former CEO, then good friend of Trump] using the Enquirer, conceived a scheme “to influence the presidential election by concealing negative information” about Mr. Trump with the help of his former personal lawyer [and now current nemesis], Michael Cohen. The prosecutor called him Mr. Trump’s “former fixer.”

The three men met in August 2015 at Trump Tower and cooked up a three-point plan to help Mr. Trump win the 2016 election, the prosecution alleged. The Enquirer would run “headline after headline that extolled the defendant’s virtues,” Mr. Colangelo argued.

Witnesses for Prosecution

Witness: Mr. David Pecker, former National Enquirer publisher.

Testified that he suppressed Trump stories.At a 2015 meeting at the Trump Tower, he agreed to be the “eyes and ears” of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign by buying up scandalous stories about the real estate mogul and suppressing them.

Witness: Stephanie Clifford (aka Stormy Daniels) - American pornographic film actress, director and former stripper.

Stormy Daniels is not central to the prosecution’s case, but her encounter with Trump led to a hush-money payment that turned into 34 felony charges against a former president. She held her own with Trump the Trump lawyer and continue to assert she was telling the truth, despite minor factual variations from prior statements. She said that she didn’t want money for her account of having had sex with Trump and that she wanted to “get the story out.” But she did strike a deal, accepting money to stay silent.

Trump Motion (24/5/9): request for a mistrial based on the argument that Daniels' changed her story about the alleged encounter - dismissed

Trump Motion (24/5/9): seeking to modify an existing gag order so the former president could talk publicly about Daniels - dismissed.

Witness: Michael Cohen, Trump's former personal attorney

Cohen testified that he worked to bury negative stories on behalf of Trump and connected his former boss to a payoff made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels, allegedly in exchange for her silence about an affair. It was part of a wider effort by Trump to save his 2016 presidential campaign by paying to hide lascivious details about his personal life from voters, and then hide those hush money payments with accounting fraud, prosecutors have alleged. Cohen told the jury that Trump told him that if news of a sexual encounter with Daniels got out, it would spell “disaster” for his White House bid. “This is a disaster, a total disaster,” Trump said, according to Cohen. “Women will hate me. Guys may think it’s cool, but this is going to be a disaster for the campaign.”

Trial Summary

Here are five things learned during the trial:

1. The head of the National Enquirer described a partnership with Trump aimed at boosting his presidential bid
2. Hope Hicks said Trump was worried about the Stormy Daniels story coming out before the 2016 election.
3. Stormy Daniels described being pressured into sex with Trump
4. A handwritten note described Michael Cohen being reimbursed $130,000
5. Michael Cohen admitted he stole from the Trump Organization.

Closing Argument of Prosecutor: Donald Trump engaged in “a conspiracy and a cover-up”.

Closing Argument of Defense: The star witness, lawyer Michael Cohen, is the “greatest liar of all time”; the jury should render an across-the-board acquittal. Update (24/5/28)

Jury Verdict: Guilty – He did falsify business records as alleged.

Update 24/6/10

Pre-Sentencing Report (Being prepared):

Today, Monday, June 10: Probation Officer will have a video interview with Donald Trump.
Then the officer will prepare a “Sentencing Report” for Trial Judge Marchan.

https://www.nysun.com/article/trump-...0%202024-06-10

Expert Sentencing Opinions
- a typical defendant convicted of the charges at hand would be very unlikely to face prison
- however, none of them would speculate about what this would mean for President Trump, since it is in many ways a precedent-setting case.

Bob A

[Neil Frarey]

...current Republican efforts to minimize the impact of the non-white vote through gerrymandering, credential challenges, inequities based on colour pretty much across the board. It's a huge list. I don't know if Trump wants a race war but I believe he wants to turn the clock back by stopping non-white immigration and deporting millions of non-whites.

Peter McKillop

...

Tim Scott, a potential Trump VP pick, launches a $14 million outreach effort to minority voter

AP ... The Associated Press

https://apnews.com/article/tim-scott...c08ca09671843b

Ending your race war, ha!