Trump: Set to declare 2024 presidential bid tonight; will indictments follow soon?

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  • #91
    Trump updates April 21/23:
    1) He is ignoring Federal Election Commission (FEC) directives to present information from the 2020 election;
    2) FOX broadcaster settles with Dominion Voting Systems for $700m plus, this week, over false claims about 2020 election;
    3) Hearings continue in New York City on lawsuit for $250m against Trump Organization from state Attorney General;
    4) He is courting Florida congress members to support his election 2024 bid, with success.

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    • #92
      As long as Trump survives, the demolition of the Republic Party is in effect, and legitimate right wing political viewpoints are being completely eroded. This is the best thing that could ever happen to the Democrats and the left-wing viewpoints. Throw the shenanigans of Clarence Thomas and his lovely wife into the mix, the gun violence, and the fanatic Christian base as well, and the fate of America is sealed. Even someone who mumbles like Joe Biden will win the next election in a huge landslide. The Republicans need to smarten up and run a reasonable moderate against Biden or they will risk handing the Democrats the White House, and Congress and the Senate, both by significant margins. Only the moron sycophants will vote for Trump if he runs again, all swing voters will vote Democrat, and vast numbers of people who normally do not vote will make sure they do this next time. Trump is a total disaster for the moderate and reasonable right.

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      • #93
        Hi Brad:

        I consider David Frum "the moderate and reasonable right".

        I believe he shares a number of your views.

        Someone can correct me if this is inaccurate.

        Bob A

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
          As long as Trump survives, the demolition of the Republic Party is in effect, and legitimate right wing political viewpoints are being completely eroded. This is the best thing that could ever happen to the Democrats and the left-wing viewpoints. Throw the shenanigans of Clarence Thomas and his lovely wife into the mix, the gun violence, and the fanatic Christian base as well, and the fate of America is sealed. Even someone who mumbles like Joe Biden will win the next election in a huge landslide. The Republicans need to smarten up and run a reasonable moderate against Biden or they will risk handing the Democrats the White House, and Congress and the Senate, both by significant margins. Only the moron sycophants will vote for Trump if he runs again, all swing voters will vote Democrat, and vast numbers of people who normally do not vote will make sure they do this next time. Trump is a total disaster for the moderate and reasonable right.
          You can hope.....but, well, you know......!
          Fred Harvey

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
            Trump updates April 21/23:
            1) He is ignoring Federal Election Commission (FEC) directives to present information from the 2020 election;
            2) FOX broadcaster settles with Dominion Voting Systems for $700m plus, this week, over false claims about 2020 election;
            3) Hearings continue in New York City on lawsuit for $250m against Trump Organization from state Attorney General;
            4) He is courting Florida congress members to support his election 2024 bid, with success.
            Thanks for giving us the facts, Frank. Do you want to know why Trump has a good chance to win? Because not enough people give a damn about corruption, because ithey think it doesn't really affect them enough? If it happened once, it can happen again. Everybody knew what he was like before, but he still was voted in.

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            • #96
              I agree that it is entirely possible that Trump could win the presidency again in 2024. He has defied logic and expectation since 2015.

              One underestimated factor with Trump: Americans like to be entertained, and he has done that, as a candidate and while president. His name recognition and support have proven to be very durable. As a scientist myself, I can only offer this comparison: a new law of physics has been identified.

              But I do think the indictments and fraud judgements against him are going to mount up, and the Republican National Committee, which controls the presidential nomination process, will have to make a major decision in about six to eight months: whether to allow someone facing multiple indictments, on multiple felony charges, in multiple jurisdictions is fit to be eligible to contest the Party's presidential nomination. If yes, that sets quite a precedent. It is likely that one or more of the felony trials would have started by then. The state caucuses and primaries begin in early February 2024. But the fact remains that Trump polled more votes than any Republican presidential candidate in history, in 2020. He was still nearly 7 million votes behind President Biden. When he won the presidency in 2016, he was nearly 3 million votes behind Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton.

              More recent Trump updates:
              1) He has sued his former lawyer Michael Cohen in Florida for $500 million, alleging breach of contract. I wonder if the two ever actually had a signed contract. Cohen pled guilty to several charges, served jail time, was disbarred as a lawyer, and wrote a best-selling book (it is really good). Florida is a friendlier state for Trump than New York.
              2) Federal investigations into the Capitol riot of January 2021 continue; something like 1,000 people have now been convicted and sentenced for that. I wonder how many of them would testify against Trump in exchange for lessened penalties against themselves!? I am quite certain many have already offered damaging information on this, including certain members of his inner circle.
              3) Two lawsuits against him, for rape and defaming the alleged victim, are set to open in New York City on Wed. April 26. Statute of limitations expiry has removed a criminal proceeding possibility on this case. Speculation has been on whether Trump will attend this trial.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
                One underestimated factor with Trump: Americans like to be entertained
                Yes, this is one of the reasons why I was a very early predictor that Trump would win the first time. But the show was not good enough for Trump to win a second term, and I see no reason why it should be good enough for him to win if the Republicans are dumb enough to let him run again. This fool is completely washed up, he entertains now only his fanatical base, the rest of the people are either sick of him, or outright hate his guts. It is a sad comment upon the Republicans that most of them still think they can ride his coat tails. Trump will be a convicted felon, possibly living in jail, by the time of the election. It is clear that the Republican Party no longer embraces democracy, they want a tyrant for life. America is imploding.

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                • #98
                  I am not sure it will ever come to jail for Trump, at least not until after the Capitol riot matter against him gets examined in detail. Anybody else, yes. Felony conviction(s), almost certainly. He has a lot of friends in high places, including three far-right judges he placed in the Supreme Court; very many far-right judges placed in lower courts; nominal, narrow control of Congress; and the support of many state governors.

                  As far as predicting he won't become president again in 2024, I am going to hold off on that exercise until we get more information. Many strange things could happen between now and the election in November 2024. Some of them include: A strong independent candidate for president, a low election turnout, Melania Trump leaving her husband and filing for divorce, the economy struggling, major turbulent developments in world events, etc.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
                    A strong independent candidate for president...
                    This is exactly what America needs. Someone to stand in the middle and bridge the divide between the right and the left. I think that a good and competent person could definitely win the election in this manner. Possibly a ticket with a moderate Republican and a centrist Democrat stepping away from their traditional affiliations. I still believe that Trump is a disaster for the Republicans in the long run. Does Liz Cheney have such ideas in her head? Too bad the rules do not allow Arnie to run!

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                    • Rapist Trump is now being exposed. There will be plenty more to come. How can anyone continue to support this sick dog? As I have said, Trump should be taken out back and shot for treason. And it is becoming more and more evident that he is not the only one. America is at a crossroads- it must put these lying right-wing religious fanatic anti-democracy maniacs out of business, or the country will implode into a military dictatorship with a guerilla civil war on its hands.

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                      • But the right wing has ascended to many positions of power in the USA, and they have a vested interest in Trump's perpetuation, survival, and future office-holding. So this is where it will get very complicated, and possibly messy.

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                        • I agree Frank. And many of these people have proven themselves to be against democracy, they want a dictatorship, and they are willing to lie and cheat, incite insurrection and plot political assassination to bring it about. Everyone has guns. And then there are the Proud Boys, Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, Christian fanatics, Oath Keepers, the National Rifle Association and FOX that has admitted to the tune of $787,000,000 that it prefers viewers to anything resembling what is true. This sycophant fixation upon Trump could end America. It may end up being the Pentagon that decides.

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                          • While Crooked Joe Biden, carrying his son's laptop from hell, needs cheats sheets to stage a simple Q and A ... and has spent trillions of dollars, yes trillions, to buy future votes ... The Donald has secured more than 70% of voter support GOP voters ... just, like, that.

                            LOOL!!!

                            Gotta just LOVE that laptop from hell, huh! A gift that just keeps on giving, ha!
                            When will the Biden's be prosecuted ??? In your life time ???

                            MAGA ... Trump / DeSantis 2024




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                            Last edited by Neil Frarey; Friday, 28th April, 2023, 02:40 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
                              Crooked Joe Biden
                              While quite possibly true, this is a deflection from the main point. Biden does not threaten democracy, he does not advocate fascist dictatorship, he does not risk outright civil war in order to obtain it. Nor is Biden an insurrectionist, a traitor or a rapist (in fact I am not sure that he is even conscious of his own existence at this point). America survived Clinton, Nixon and others such as Madison (who lost a war to Canada). It can survive Biden and his son's laptop. As I have suggested, there is nothing wrong with right-wing policies, I am not a lefty myself, but Trump is uniquely unqualified and dangerous. And DeSantis is a moron when it comes to geopolitics and history. Anyone who says that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a "local territorial dispute" that is outside of the interests of America is a fool with no comprehension of the way monsters like Putin operate and the way history evolves. Let us never forget the grotesque folly of political amateur Neville Chamberlain who told the world that Hitler was a good little boy who would stop at the Sudetenland.

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                              • Watching what is happening in America is astonishing and frightening, and it must be said that our own future as Canadians in an independent country stands in the balance. If the fascists win and America becomes a right-wing military dictatorship, how long do you think we will last as a democracy? Supporting Trump initially was understandable, but to continue to support him and his kind at this stage is profoundly shortsighted and just plain bloody fucking stupid. These monsters must be stopped, but it is unclear whether America will stop them or fall prey to them. This is very serious. Enjoy Canada while you can.

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