New World Order (NWO), sometimes called the Great Reset

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Dilip:

Democracy, in terms of multi-party elections, are a bedrock of Democratic Marxism. We must be elected; and we can also be thrown out after being elected.

But your Libertarian Party will have no realistic chance of election unless it does better marketing than what it has done to date......just my humble opinion.

Bob A

So you would be okay if all the LPUs elected capitalist governments?

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Dilip:

Yup! Let the party that wins the hearts and minds of the majority represent them in government. Capitalism must be kicked out at the ballot box.......much preferable to on-the-street revolution which is quite messy.

Democratic Marxism has to explain itself in a straightforward and reasonable way.....that is its job.

After that, it is up to the elector to decide.......Marx fully believed in this.

It is USSR-style Communism that bastardized Marx, and 1. banned multi-party elections; 2. breached the human rights of the workers; and 3. turned the revolutionary gun back against the worker, because it feared it could not keep the support of the worker, democratically. This is the greatest disservice to Karl Marx ever, because it tainted, in the mind of the public, all of the good work of he, and this theorist friend, Friedrich Engels. The enemies of Democratic Marxism have been able to execute one of the greatest smear campaigns ever.........

"Look at what Marxists do when they get power!" - not looking at DM's at all; solely focusing on USSR-style Communism.

This is NOT what Democratic Marxists will do when they get power through the ballot box.

As you and I have previously discussed, one needs to look at Chile under the Presidency of Dr. Salvador Allende from 1971-3 to get an early preview of how Democratic Marxists wish to come to power, and what they will do with it. The Unity Government was not perfect, but it brought many progressive reforms. And it was a huge target of the USA, and the Chilean Business Class, which wanted it to fail........and eventually recruited General Augusto Pinochet to carry out a coup against Allende's democratically-elected government.

~ Bob A (T-S/P)

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Dilip:

Yup! Let the party that wins the hearts and minds of the majority represent them in government. Capitalism must be kicked out at the ballot box.......much preferable to on-the-street revolution which is quite messy.

Democratic Marxism has to explain itself in a straightforward and reasonable way.....that is its job.

After that, it is up to the elector to decide.......Marx fully believed in this.

It is USSR-style Communism that bastardized Marx, and 1. banned multi-party elections; 2. breached the human rights of the workers; and 3. turned the revolutionary gun back against the worker, because it feared it could not keep the support of the worker, democratically. This is the greatest disservice to Karl Marx ever, because it tainted, in the mind of the public, all of the good work of he, and this theorist friend, Friedrich Engels. The enemies of Democratic Marxism have been able to execute one of the greatest smear campaigns ever.........

"Look at what Marxists do when they get power!" - not looking at DM's at all; solely focusing on USSR-style Communism.

This is NOT what Democratic Marxists will do when they get power through the ballot box.

As you and I have previously discussed, one needs to look at Chile under the Presidency of Dr. Salvador Allende from 1971-3 to get an early preview of how Democratic Marxists wish to come to power, and what they will do with it. The Unity Government was not perfect, but it brought many progressive reforms. And it was a huge target of the USA, and the Chilean Business Class, which wanted it to fail........and eventually recruited General Augusto Pinochet to carry out a coup against Allende's democratically-elected government.

~ Bob A (T-S/P)

Dem. Marxism and Capitalism are opposite sides of the same coin:
The latter enables the rich to hurt the not-so-rich by exploiting them; the former enables the not-so-hard & smart working to hurt the hard & smart working by stealing from them. Neither leads to a harmonious society...
The latter leads to wealth concentration in the hands of a select few; the former leads to 'forced upon' wealth redistribution. Neither leads to fair and abundant wealth creation...

[Bob Armstrong]

ChessTalk

New World Order (NWO) (The Great Reset: Term often used by the Right) Thread

(Started: 22/12/5)




Week # 7 (23/2/13 – 23/2/19: 7 days)

(Sometimes Adjusted for no. of days)

Weekly Stats:
.....................................................2023 Average..........................................................2023 Average
Last Week's......Prior Week's........Views/Day..........Last Week's.....Prior Week's......Responses/Day
Views/Day........Views/Day.............(7 wks.)............Responses/Day....Resp./Day......... (7 wks.).

…14.........................2.........................11..........................1......................... 0.....................1.........

Analysis of Last Week's Stats

Last week's stats bounced back to the 2023 average to date......... but there does seem to be fewer new articles on the topic, than in the more recent past.......we'll see what we can do about ferreting them out.

Also, the stats do confirm that we have a core group of CT'ers following this thread......toss in a post when you see one. The topic of human governance is one of the most important in our human future!

NWO Thread “Responses”

There are some new articles out there from time to time on NWO, called the Great Reset by the Right. The articles come in different forms: on globalization on many fronts, world free-trade, and higher governments stomping on the wishes of the local residents, and their local governments, etc..

This thread encourages CT'ers on all sides to re-post here, as responses, the NWO posts of interest they see elsewhere.

Note:

1. The goal of this thread is not to woodshed an opposing view into submission. Every position is entitled to post as it sees fit, regardless of the kind of, and amount of, postings by other positions. What is wanted is serious consideration of all posts........then you decide.

2. I personally, as the thread originator, am trying to post a new response at least twice per week, but admit my busy schedule means I am sometimes falling short on this. So it is going to be necessary that a number of other CT'ers are posting responses here somewhat regularly.

The Time Line

There is much disagreement whether the New World Order project actually exists. There are those who simply relegate it to the realm of “conspiracy theories, such as QAnon.

But there are others, including myself, who assert that already a covert group of much influence is directing government law and policy, in nations across the globe, and incrementally implementing the pieces of an eventual one-world government. We fear this centralization is not good in the long run.

A Proposal (Possible; not Utopian)

1. Nations dissolve themselves, and, in the process, devolve power down to Local Political Units (LPU's).
2. Eventually the world will become a “collection of villages”.
3. The goal is to significantly lessen the power of all governments, so as to make any geopolitical conflicts less dangerous for the globe as a whole.
4. It will not get rid of corruption, abuse of power, or tin-pot dictators.......but will limit the damage they can do.

We invite CT'ers to consider this position and to post here, their thoughts on it.

~ Bob (T-S/P)

[Bob Armstrong]

ChessTalk

New World Order (NWO) (The Great Reset: Term often used by the Right) Thread

(Started: 22/12/5)




Week # 8 (23/2/20 – 23/2/26: 7 days)

(Sometimes Adjusted for no. of days)

Weekly Stats:
.....................................................2023 Average..........................................................2023 Average
Last Week's......Prior Week's........Views/Day..........Last Week's.....Prior Week's......Responses/Day
Views/Day........Views/Day.............(7 wks.)............Responses/Day....Resp./Day......... (7 wks.).

…5.........................14........................11..........................0........................ 1....................1.........

Analysis of Last Week's Stats

Last week's stats languished......but there were no new responses... there do seem to be fewer new articles on the topic, than in the more recent past.......we'll see what we can do about ferreting them out.

Also, the stats do confirm that we have a core group of CT'ers following this thread......toss in a post when you see one. The topic of human governance is one of the most important in our human future! Do you want a global autocratic totalitarian government?

NWO Thread “Responses”

There are some new articles out there from time to time on NWO, called the Great Reset by the Right. The articles come in different forms: on globalization on many fronts, world free-trade, and higher governments stomping on the wishes of the local residents, and their local governments, etc..

This thread encourages CT'ers on all sides to re-post here, as responses, the NWO posts of interest they see elsewhere.

Note:

1. The goal of this thread is not to woodshed an opposing view into submission. Every position is entitled to post as it sees fit, regardless of the kind of, and amount of, postings by other positions. What is wanted is serious consideration of all posts........then you decide.

2. I personally, as the thread originator, am trying to post a new response at least twice per week, but admit my busy schedule means I am sometimes falling short on this. So it is going to be necessary that a number of other CT'ers are posting responses here somewhat regularly.

The Time Line

There is much disagreement whether the New World Order project actually exists. There are those who simply relegate it to the realm of “conspiracy theories, such as QAnon.

But there are others, including myself, who assert that already a covert group of much influence is directing government law and policy, in nations across the globe, and incrementally implementing the pieces of an eventual one-world government. We fear this centralization is not good in the long run.

A Proposal (Possible; not Utopian)

1. Nations dissolve themselves, and, in the process, devolve power down to Local Political Units (LPU's).
2. Eventually the world will become a “collection of villages”.
3. The goal is to significantly lessen the power of all governments, so as to make any geopolitical conflicts less dangerous for the globe as a whole.
4. It will not get rid of corruption, abuse of power, or tin-pot dictators.......but will limit the damage they can do.

We invite CT'ers to consider this position and to post here, their thoughts on it.

Future of this Thread

Given that articles on this topic are not so plentiful now, I will just let this thread move down the scroll, and come back up when an article is posted. I will no longer keep daily stats.

~ Bob (T-S/P)

[Bob Armstrong]

New World Order (NWO)

The "15-Minute City"

Americas - USA

"The increasingly popular urban planning concept known as the “15-minute city” has revived the abiding idea that they should operate at human scale, envisioning a city where every resident can reach essential resources by foot, bicycle or public transport within a quarter of an hour."

Subscribers Only

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...b4d160753eab79

~ Bob A (T-S/P)

[Bob Armstrong]

NWO & COVID-19

"BILL GATES CRIMES: U.S. patents show CDC ownership of Coronavirus. Both China and the U.S. involved in the creation of Wuhan SARS-CoV-2. Gates and CCP controlled WHO appoints criminal Tedros. CDC, FDA, CIA, NIH, Gates, Fauci, Baric, Rockefeller are all involved in Federal Crimes."

What is CT'ers take on this one?

https://twitter.com/SpartaJustice/st...63125269209088

~ Bob A (T-S/P)

[Sid Belzberg]

NWO & COVID-19

"BILL GATES CRIMES: U.S. patents show CDC ownership of Coronavirus. Both China and the U.S. involved in the creation of Wuhan SARS-CoV-2. Gates and CCP controlled WHO appoints criminal Tedros. CDC, FDA, CIA, NIH, Gates, Fauci, Baric, Rockefeller are all involved in Federal Crimes."

What is CT'ers take on this one?

https://twitter.com/SpartaJustice/st...63125269209088

~ Bob A (T-S/P)

Bob, this same tweeter, posted this about the former British Health Ministers Matt Hancock's leaked whats App messages published in The Telegram, much to Hancock's chagrin.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230304...cock-whatsapp/

https://twitter.com/SpartaJustice/st...47554720006145
"Matt Hancock - “When do we deploy the new variant?” Admission of guilt of a planned pandemic. This evidence is undeniable and coincident with all the other evidence we have to put them all away for life or worse."

The rest now goes from a planned depopulation "conspiracy theory" to "conspiracy fact" He is absolutely right on the money. Below are the Great Reset goals (currently in full force in China, replete with depopulation genocide.)
Canada's involvement is well known, with Justin Trudeau being a young global leader and Cynthia Freeland being the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and deputy director of the Word Economic Forum. Ironically, even factions within the Israeli Government got entangled with this grotesque organization.

Here is something not so well known Canada's Level 4 Winnipeg bioweapons Lab was very much involved with the Wuhan lab in China and Labs in the United States in creating the Sarscov2 bioweapon virus.
https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/\
https://greatgameindia.com/frank-plu...-assassinated/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230220...e-winnipeg-lab

The last link shows Canada's involvement was not about being a victim of espionage but about collaboration actively being suppressed by the Trudeau Government.
You may have read in the last few weeks about Chnia's interference in Canada's election in favor of liberal candidates. It is not a coincidence.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChongMP/s...20386467471360

https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/w...-meeting-davos

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• Investigative journalist Whitney Webb reveals the inner workings of the World Economic Forum (WEF), the driving force behind The Great Reset
• Beneath WEF’s benevolent surface, it becomes clear that corporatism and, more aptly, fascism, are its modus operandi
• WEF’s Board of Trustees is packed with powerful and prominent representatives from government and multinational corporations like BlackRock, Salesforce and Nestlé
• WEF supports the “merging of man and machine,” or transhumanism, and its Fourth Industrial Revolution aims to use wearable and implantable technology to surveil your thoughts and launch a digital dictatorship
• Once implemented, a digital dictator ship will be almost impossible to escape from; one way to stop it is to not comply or utilize these technologie

[Bob Armstrong]

Is the World Economic Forum (WEF) Path Forward being Rejected?


"The Washington consensus is dead

Europe, China and the US have all rejected free trade and globalisation. Protectionism is back".

https://www.newstatesman.com/the-wee...consensus-dead

Bob A (T-S/P)

[Pargat Perrer]

Get ready for a world of CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency):

Biden administration is quietly planning for a future where you don’t own money

"...because a CBDC would be digital and programmable, rules could be imposed that limit spending on approved activities. So, if the federal government or Federal Reserve were to determine that Americans are buying too much gasoline, for example, it could stop people from using CBDCs at gas stations with a few clicks on a computer.

Perhaps most disturbing of all, however, is that under most of the CBDC designs discussed by the Biden administration and Federal Reserve, nearly all forms of ownership of CBDC money would also be strictly limited. Only large institutions such as banks, the federal government, and/or the Federal Reserve would actually have ownership of CBDCs. Everyone else would be prevented from having absolute control over their digital money."

About 20 years ago, Sandra Bullock starred in a movie called The Net which was ahead of its time in warning us just what can happen to individuals in an all-digital world.

And yet we still embraced smartphones, and even encourage our kids to use them. We are the authors of our own misfortune, it seems.

[Sid Belzberg]

Dystopian Global Influence of The World Economic Forum: WEF Young Global Leaders have infiltrated Governments to enforce The Great Reset


"The World Economic Forum (WEF), founded by Klaus Schwab, has been a topic of discussion among critical thinkers concerned about the organization’s potential influence on global governance for some time now.

One particular area of focus is the WEF’s Young Global Leaders (YGL) programme, which has seen its members infiltrate Governments worldwide. This article examines the WEF, the YGL programme, and the potential implications of the Great Reset initiative.


Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum


Klaus Schwab, a German economist, established the World Economic Forum in 1971 as an international organization to facilitate collaboration between public and private sectors (1).

But the WEF has since grown into an unelected powerful institution, hosting an annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, where leaders from various fields gather to discuss and shape global, regional, and industry agendas. And the general public does not get a seat at the table.

The Young Global Leaders Programme


The WEF’s Young Global Leaders programme, founded in 2004, is designed to cultivate a network of exceptional individuals under the age of 40 from various fields, including business, politics, and academia (2). Schwab has openly admitted that these YGLs are infiltrating governments around the world (3).

One notable example is French President Emmanuel Macron, who was a member of the YGL Class of 2016 before being elected to office (4).

President Emmanuel Macron has implemented several policies that align with the World Economic Forum’s (WEF) globalist vision and goals, and many aspects of his policies will have dystopian implications.

Here are just a few examples:

1. Surveillance and Security Measures: In response to terrorism and security threats, Macron’s administration has proposed and implemented measures that expand surveillance powers and law enforcement authority.
   
   Critics argue that these policies could infringe on personal privacy and civil liberties. For example, a controversial “global security” bill was proposed in 2020, which included provisions to restrict the filming of police officers and expand the use of drones for surveillance [1].
2. Labour Market Reforms: Macron has pursued labour market reforms aimed at increasing flexibility and reducing unemployment.
   
   However, critics argue that some of these reforms will undermine workers’ rights and protections, potentially leading to increased job insecurity and income inequality.
   
   For instance, the 2017 labour reforms made it easier for companies to hire and fire employees, which some argue could exacerbate precarious working conditions [2].
3. Digital Transformation and Privacy Concerns: While Macron has promoted digital transformation within France and the European Union, critics argue that the increased reliance on technology could lead to privacy concerns and increased surveillance.
   
   For example, the use of facial recognition technology in public spaces raises serious concerns about potential abuse and the erosion of individual privacy [3].
4. COVID-19 Response and Potential Erosion of Freedoms: Macron has played a significant role in the outrageous global response to the alleged COVID-19 pandemic.
5. The measures implemented to allegedly curb the spread of the virus seriously impeded human rights and eroded individual freedoms.
   
   For example, Macron’s introduction of health passes/vaccine passports, which require proof of vaccination or a recent negative test to access certain public spaces, is an infringement on personal liberties [5]."

https://expose-news.com/2023/04/27/d...3-e30a3aa7220c

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Sid:

I have now viewed the lecture by Moreno in the video, "Finally, the Ultimate Summary of the Great Reset":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUJ9kUBBYb4

Moreno's presentation is impressive in both its depth and breadth, whether or not I agree with his analytical conclusions on the evidence he presents.

So I'd propose that we use our "Conversation Project Format" for this thread's future discussion.......we have been trying this in the "Negative Climate Change" thread here on CT and it seems to be working, though democracy and inviting full participation tends to slow things down a bit.........but the turtle did win the race!

You said you'd like to discuss this NWO/GR topic once I had viewed the video........so now I'm ready to join the conversation again.

To start (This is your mission, should you accept it), can you propose a simple (we are going to deal with aspects one by one) opening statement # 1 that could gain broad acceptance among CT'ers here on this critical topic about our future? To me, this is as critical as Climate Change (Our species suicide) - "Our Future Freedom".

As you are aware, since I am the originator of this thread, I also have concerns from my left wing perspective.

Bob A

[Sid Belzberg]

Hi Sid:

I have now viewed the lecture by Moreno in the video, "Finally, the Ultimate Summary of the Great Reset":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUJ9kUBBYb4

Moreno's presentation is impressive in both its depth and breadth, whether or not I agree with his analytical conclusions on the evidence he presents.

So I'd propose that we use our "Conversation Project Format" for this thread's future discussion.......we have been trying this in the "Negative Climate Change" thread here on CT and it seems to be working, though democracy and inviting full participation tends to slow things down a bit.........but the turtle did win the race!

You said you'd like to discuss this NWO/GR topic once I had viewed the video........so now I'm ready to join the conversation again.

To start (This is your mission, should you accept it), can you propose a simple (we are going to deal with aspects one by one) opening statement # 1 that could gain broad acceptance among CT'ers here on this critical topic about our future? To me, this is as critical as Climate Change (Our species suicide) - "Our Future Freedom".

As you know, since I am the originator of this thread, I also have concerns from my left wing perspective.

Bob A

Thanks, Bob. Have you also listened to this video https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...830#post226830 as well as the most important video https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...123#post227123 the last one posted?

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Sid:

Thanks........I will check.......my memory is somewhat random.

I have mentioned that I have problems with the audio/video format......the bloody Plandemic 3 is a movie/documentary (almost 2 hrs. long), and the Naomi Wolf talk is over an hour.

I simply am unable to watch this (It is not I am unwilling, or unwilling to spend the time; I physically can't)......I will try to skip through them in short segments over a week or so, when I get time, to try to get the main drift.

Bob A

[Bob Armstrong]

The New World Order (Label of the Left)/The Great Reset (Label of the Right)

Our own self-governance, while maintaining individual freedoms, is one of the most critical human issues.

This is one of those rare times that both sides of the political spectrum are identifying the same issue, though they may approach it somewhat differently.

There are powers that wish to direct the affairs of humanity........and, unfortunately, their idea of "benefiting humanity" and our plebeian idea of "benefiting humanity" are not the same.

And "NO"....this is not just a mere conspiracy theory.

Decisions have been, and are currently being, made to implement this covert (And sometimes quite open) agenda.

We must be very alert to where we are starting to cede to authority, power over us that we will be unable to later take back.

Any comments CT'ers?

Bob A

P.S. I do consider Sid's materials on this of importance.......it is a matter of priority and time on-line.