Democratic Marxism

[Sid Belzberg]

Ok, so it turns out you are not Libertarian at all, at least according to Dilip. I have been using HIS definition as expressed in many of his posts here on CT, in which he claims the state gives capital freely to anyone with a business idea, with no restrictions, and in which there is really no legal system, all the lawyers are gone and legal cases are pretty much non-existent because there is the Natural Law concept that says all harm to others is illegal EXCEPT HARM DONE IN FAIR COMPETITION, and the definition of fair competition is left to the state to decide. No lawyers, no judges, unlike Singapore and unlike Hong Kong.

It is not you and I who disagree on what is Libertarianism, it is you and Dilip. His definition is way more specific than yours. You are calling all laissez-faire capitalism Libertarianism, and so we just need to get it straight what is the REAL definition of this term.




Yes they have .... MOST PREDOMINANTLY IN CAPITALIST ECONOMIES!

And the more laissez-faire the Capitalism ... the more quickly the bust happens and the more severe it is.




LOL, blaming tulips for the tulip crash is nowhere near where I am coming from. You freely accuse others of putting words in your mouth, but you continually do that to others.

I didn't blame the markets for the dot-com crash. I blamed the banking and investment sector which freely gave away money like candy to babies, to anyone with a website idea. That isn't normal capitalism, I think even you with your blinders on can agree to that. And come to think of it, even the 2008 mortgage securities crash is an example of Libertarianism causing economic disaster. Because again, you had banks giving mortgages away to people who couldn't afford them, who should never have been allowed to have them, and they were given them with only 5% down payments! Totally unsound economics, based on Libertarian principles, just give capital away and everyone will make good use of it. Then the banks sold these unqualified mortgages as investments, so no one know who actually OWNED the mortgages! And when the defaults began, as was inevitable, no one knew who owned the properties!

So thanks, you made me realize a 3rd example of Libertarianism in real practice and resulting in disaster. I think we can now say for sure that Libertarianism as defined by Dilip is a dead horse.




You presume so much! For someone who hates to be mischaracterized, you do it so much to others! What a total ass you are. I can see why you have never really moved into the economic elite despite your inflated ego-driven claims of superior intelligence. I imagine a whack-a-mole game where every time you raise your head out one of the holes to present yourself to the economic elite, you start spewing your profanity and jackass attitude and the elite has to whack you with a club to knock you back down the hole you came from.

What I blame for potential misuse is digitalization (if there is such a word, if not, I just coined it). We used to have everything done on paper, phones were in our homes and offices not on our person. Now anything you want to do has to be done "online". No one can any longer survive in the civilized world without a "DEVICE" which is mostly a smartphone or tablet. You have to have it, and you have to have it on your person constantly. It is your personal BALL AND CHAIN. And it will soon be used to control everyone, yes, even children. And soon it will be digital chips implanted in our bodies.

And you can't do anything online without OPENING AN ACCOUNT. And opening an account almost always REQUIRES ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

It is truly remarkable and distressing how quickly and pervasively this virus has been allowed to spread all over the world. Last night I saw footage of rebels in Haiti ... one of the poorest nations in the world ... rebels walking around with guns AND with smartphones!.

We are fucked like never before. If you're so deadset against the WEF and WHO and Bill Gates, you should realize that your progress-driven philosophy can ONLY LEAD TO SUCH PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS and can only lead TO THE SUCCESS OF THEIR AGENDA! Via digitalization!

If you can't see the forest for the trees, it's not my problem. I saw it when smartphones first came on the scene and parents were buying them for themselves AND for their children!!!

I've seen episodes of The Walking Dead, and I laugh because the zombies are walking around trying to find non-zombies to eat... while we already live in a world where brain-dead zombies are walking around searching their precious devices to see what's new on Instagram or Tik Tok.

Personally I think Sid Belzberg as presented here on CT is a total fraud. He pretends to care about population, about people losing their rights, about hunger and famine. He really doesn't care at all, he has a personal agenda for the rise of ultra-right states. But at least, unlike Dilip, he does seem to want those states to have robust legal systems to include lawyers and judges, not just police, so I think Sid is far less dangerous than Dilip.

Personally I think Sid Belzberg as presented here on CT is a total fraud. He pretends to care about population, about people losing their rights, about hunger and famine. He really doesn't care at all, he has a personal agenda for the rise of ultra-right states.

And so says the one who sheepishly buys into the fascist WEF policies all the way down the line. What a pathetic, brainless troll you are. Perhaps breathing in 25000PPM of CO2 for extended periods has finally reduced you to a complete imbecile.

[Bob Armstrong]

[Pargat Perrer]

And so says the one who sheepishly buys into the fascist WEF policies all the way down the line. What a pathetic, brainless troll you are. Perhaps breathing in 25000PPM of CO2 for extended periods has finally reduced you to a complete imbecile.

WHACK-A-MOLE!

It's revealing that you accept the theory that masks around the nose and mouth hold in CO2, but you cannot accept that greenhouse gases hold in heat close to the surface of the Earth as Bob A. explained.

You can swear and spit saliva til you are blue in the face, it makes no difference. It is your science-is-everything thinking that has led to digitalization, let the genie out of the bottle never to be put back in, allowed the sheeple to worship the devices that will eventually control them completely.

It cannot be stopped now. Who among the zombies is willing to cast away their devices?

[Sid Belzberg]

WHACK-A-MOLE!

WHAT_AN_ASSHOLE!

It's revealing that you accept the theory that masks around the nose and mouth hold in CO2

That is a physically proven fact. Pity you are too demented to know the difference.




https://drtrozzi.org/2021/04/03/masks-cause-harm/

but you cannot accept that greenhouse gases hold in heat close to the surface of the Earth as Bob A. explained.

He is so demented that he does not know the difference between 400PPM and 25000PPM. It's a pity. He has lost his ability to count!

It is your science-is-everything thinking that has led to digitalization, let the genie out of the bottle never to be put back in,

And Pythagoras's "Science is everything thinking" led to the Nuclear bomb!

More nonsense vomited from our resident demented troll

[Bob Armstrong]

Masks

(Should likely be under COVID-19 thread, but, oh well, here goes)



Proper masks (Like the N 95) - found to be effective in mitigating the transmission/catching of airborne diseases, such as COVID-19.

Transmission (In-flow) (23/2/23)

"N95 mask has emerged as a potential measure to mitigate the airborne transmission of respiratory disease such as COVID-19. Herein, we experimentally investigated the impact and interaction of pure water droplets as surrogate to respiratory droplets with the different layers of a commercially available N95 mask to demonstrate the penetration and passage-capability of respiratory fluids through the different layers. The penetration of an impacting droplet through the mask layers was characterized by elucidating the ejection of secondary droplets from the rear-side surface of the target mask material. In addition, the passage of respiratory fluids through the mask layers was characterized by capillary imbibition of the droplet liquid through the pores, as a function of wettability of the mask material. Droplet impact at Weber numbers We = 208 and 416 has been considered in the present study; the chosen We range corresponds to that of cough droplets realized in real respiratory events. Each layer of the N95 mask is hydrophobic that prevents capillary imbibition through the pores: a sessile droplet placed over the surface exhibits classical diffusion-limited evaporation. Droplet impact experiments on N95 mask layer surfaces reveal that a single layer allows liquid penetration at We = 416; while a combination of five layers, as is the case of a commercially available N95 mask, blocks the penetration completely, consistent with the widely known effectiveness of N95 masks. Herein, we devote special attention to compare the so-obtained efficiency of N95 masks to that of a recently designed two-layer cloth mask containing an intermediate High-Efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filter layer (Narayan et al. in Phys Fluids 34:061703, 2022). We conclusively show that the performance of the designed cloth mask is identical to that of a commercially available N95 mask. The assessment of mask effectiveness further includes examination of breathability and comfort by means of passage of air through them. A comparative study has been presented herein for a clear demonstration of effectiveness of different masks in preventing air-borne transmission of COVID-19."

https://link.springer.com/article/10...03-023-00394-y

Emission (Out-flow) (20/9/24)

"Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission. These masks similarly decreased the outward particle emission of a coughing superemitter, who for unclear reasons emitted up to two orders of magnitude more expiratory particles via coughing than average."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

Democratic Marxism has not yet had to develop a set of laws dealing with pandemics.....but DM respects mainstream science, adequately reviewed against opposing science.

Bob A (Dem. Marxist)

[Sid Belzberg]

Democratic Marxism has not yet had to develop a set of laws dealing with pandemics.....but DM respects mainstream science, adequately reviewed against opposing science.

Bob, have you ever read any posts here???? Seriously, you blab on with your moronic statements with no clue what you are talking about. Here is post 3292
https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...938#post224938
The Cochrane database is as mainstream as it gets and does Meta-analysis on many peer-reviewed studies, not just one.

The 2023 Cochrane Review on Physical Interventions Against Respiratory Viruses

But does science matter anymore?

What is the Cochrane Library?

“The Cochrane Library contains high-quality, independent evidence to inform healthcare decision-making. It includes reliable evidence from Cochrane and other systematic reviews, clinical trials, and more. Cochrane reviews bring you the combined results of the world’s best medical research studies, and are recognized as the gold standard in evidence-based health care.”

This is not some short-term project, but a long-term, serious meta-analysis review. As stated above, the Cochran reviews are considered the gold standard for health care agencies and professionals.

Doctors training at Harvard in Global Clinical Research, the Cochran methodology for medical research meta-analysis is taught as the preferred method.


"The pooled results of RCTs did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection."



This large group of international researchers reviewed dozens of rigorously correct, randomized clinical trials of "physical interventions" against respiratory diseases. These diseases included influenza and COVID-19 during the pandemic, and these researchers failed to find even a “modest effect” on infection or illness rates from any type of mask.

Furthermore, the effects that masking is having on health, childhood development, speech development, etc. are unknown and are under-investigated. Ergo - governments aren’t funding this research. Without government funding, the answer to the damage done will never be answered."

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr...6207.pub6/full

[Pargat Perrer]

Bob, have you ever read any posts here???? Seriously, you blab on with your moronic statements with no clue what you are talking about. Here is post 3292
https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...938#post224938
The Cochrane database is as mainstream as it gets and does Meta-analysis on many peer-reviewed studies, not just one.

The 2023 Cochrane Review on Physical Interventions Against Respiratory Viruses

But does science matter anymore?

What is the Cochrane Library?

“The Cochrane Library contains high-quality, independent evidence to inform healthcare decision-making. It includes reliable evidence from Cochrane and other systematic reviews, clinical trials, and more. Cochrane reviews bring you the combined results of the world’s best medical research studies, and are recognized as the gold standard in evidence-based health care.”

This is not some short-term project, but a long-term, serious meta-analysis review. As stated above, the Cochran reviews are considered the gold standard for health care agencies and professionals.

Doctors training at Harvard in Global Clinical Research, the Cochran methodology for medical research meta-analysis is taught as the preferred method.


"The pooled results of RCTs did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection."



This large group of international researchers reviewed dozens of rigorously correct, randomized clinical trials of "physical interventions" against respiratory diseases. These diseases included influenza and COVID-19 during the pandemic, and these researchers failed to find even a “modest effect” on infection or illness rates from any type of mask.

Furthermore, the effects that masking is having on health, childhood development, speech development, etc. are unknown and are under-investigated. Ergo - governments aren’t funding this research. Without government funding, the answer to the damage done will never be answered."

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr...6207.pub6/full

So... Bob A.'s linked article says:
""Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission."

That's pretty specific and convincing. But then Sid's linked article says...
"These diseases included influenza and COVID-19 during the pandemic, and these researchers failed to find even a “modest effect” on infection or illness rates from any type of mask."

In conclusion, reducing outward particle rates during speaking and coughing by a minimum of 74% does not have even a modest effect on infection or illness rates.

And the conclusion from THAT is: during a pandemic, we need even BETTER masks OR even STRONGER lockdowns and social distancing mandates.

Meanwhile, I will take the scientific study from Bob A.'s article much more meaningful than the one done on infection and illness rates, simply because the latter is much more broad and general and is much more subject to either bias or data corruption. A study on masks is very specific and reproducible.


Oh, and Sid .... I love that you admit that "the effects that masking is having on health, childhood development, speech development, etc. are unknown". Thank you for specifically spelling that out.

UNKNOWN! That means you shouldn't even be bringing it up. It is UNKNOWN! It could be ZERO!

Some scientist YOU are! LOL

And than you add that more government funding is needed to find out how much masking is affecting health....

MORE GOVERNMENT FUNDING!

WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT FROM A LAISSEZ-FAIRE GOVERNMENT ARE WE SID?

I guess that means we'll have to rely on SMART HARD-WORKING ENTREPRENEURS to do these studies! LOL LOL

That's a two-in-one Whack-a-mole! -- got both Sid and Dilip! LOL

[Sid Belzberg]

So... Bob A.'s linked article says:
""Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission."

That's pretty specific and convincing. But then Sid's linked article says...
"These diseases included influenza and COVID-19 during the pandemic, and these researchers failed to find even a “modest effect” on infection or illness rates from any type of mask."

In conclusion, reducing outward particle rates during speaking and coughing by a minimum of 74% does not have even a modest effect on infection or illness rates.

And the conclusion from THAT is: during a pandemic, we need even BETTER masks OR even STRONGER lockdowns and social distancing mandates.

Meanwhile, I will take the scientific study from Bob A.'s article much more meaningful than the one done on infection and illness rates, simply because the latter is much more broad and general and is much more subject to either bias or data corruption. A study on masks is very specific and reproducible.


Oh, and Sid .... I love that you admit that "the effects that masking is having on health, childhood development, speech development, etc. are unknown". Thank you for specifically spelling that out.

UNKNOWN! That means you shouldn't even be bringing it up. It is UNKNOWN! It could be ZERO!

Some scientist YOU are! LOL

And than you add that more government funding is needed to find out how much masking is affecting health....

MORE GOVERNMENT FUNDING!

WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT FROM A LAISSEZ-FAIRE GOVERNMENT ARE WE SID?

I guess that means we'll have to rely on SMART HARD-WORKING ENTREPRENEURS to do these studies! LOL LOL

That's a two-in-one Whack-a-mole! -- got both Sid and Dilip! LOL

Hey, Pargat What-An-Asshole, Please wear three masks around your mouth and nose 24/7 and follow in Bob's footsteps and inject yourself nine(!!!) times.

[Bob Armstrong]

Risk of Death from COVID-19

Who is at highest risk of death from Covid?

Older adults are at highest risk of getting very sick from COVID-19. More than 81% of COVID-19 deaths occur in people over age 65. The number of deaths among people over age 65 is 97 times higher than the number of deaths among people ages 18-29 years.

Diabetics

Is COVID worse for diabetics?

A: People with diabetes are more likely to have serious complications from COVID-19. In general, people with diabetes are more likely to have more severe symptoms and complications when infected with any virus. Your risk of getting very sick from COVID-19 is likely to be lower if your diabetes is well-managed.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20483301

Diabetes & Death

Patients with diabetes and its associated comorbidities need more monitoring if get SARS-Cov-2 infection to reduce deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10191721/

My Conclusion

Senior Diabetics should not do NOTHING to mitigate the possible contraction of COVID19. Vaccination seems one reasonable step.

Bob A (Senior Diabetic)

[Sid Belzberg]

Risk of Death from COVID-19

Who is at highest risk of death from Covid?

Older adults are at highest risk of getting very sick from COVID-19. More than 81% of COVID-19 deaths occur in people over age 65. The number of deaths among people over age 65 is 97 times higher than the number of deaths among people ages 18-29 years.

Diabetics

Is COVID worse for diabetics?

A: People with diabetes are more likely to have serious complications from COVID-19. In general, people with diabetes are more likely to have more severe symptoms and complications when infected with any virus. Your risk of getting very sick from COVID-19 is likely to be lower if your diabetes is well-managed.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20483301

Diabetes & Death

Patients with diabetes and its associated comorbidities need more monitoring if get SARS-Cov-2 infection to reduce deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10191721/

My Conclusion

Senior Diabetics should not do NOTHING to mitigate the possible contraction of COVID19. Vaccination seems one reasonable step.

Bob A (Senior Diabetic)

Hey Bob,
Assuming you weren't lied to by a corrupted and genocidal medical political complex, you would. be correct. Sadly, that is not the case.
I have been involved with a forum of dissident Doctors, including the Doctor in this video. If you
ever need help from Doctors who still follow the Hippocratic oath, let me know; you can always DM me, and that goes for any other Cter here.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1768033041568727391

[Pargat Perrer]

Hey, Pargat What-An-Asshole, Please wear three masks around your mouth and nose 24/7 and follow in Bob's footsteps and inject yourself nine(!!!) times.

I'll wear the masks if you make at least a $10,000 cash donation to Liz Cheney's PAC! LOL She wants to stop Trump, and is threatening to run as a 3rd party candidate. And what's $10,000 to you? I bet you blow that much each week on anger management therapy. Oh, maybe your wife pays for that .... can't even imagine what she has to put up with.....

Bob A. wearing masks and getting Covid injected 9 times .... shouldn't he be dead from either CO2 poisoning or blood clots by now? According to your posts here?

Instead he's very much alive despite admitting to being member of by far the most covid-threatened democratic, senior diabetics, which must make you very .... angry?

Hey Bob A., are you really being lied to by a massive medical political complex???? Or by a small group of "dissident" ultra-rightwing cultists?

[Bob Armstrong]

COVID-19 & Vaccination

Because I am in the highest risk group for mortality, it seems a no-brainer to me that I likely would have died (I got COVID-19 after vaccinations, and was still sick as a dog.........but could it have been worse?) had I not been vaccinated. I recovered with no long-term effects, a big problem, and for which I am quite grateful.

Having said that, I am unsure as to whether the medication does have some longer term deleterious effect.......certainly non-mainstream science has lots of studies, reports and tests, that maintain there are a number of problems with the Pfizer and Moderna injections.

At my age and condition, I will choose to live....and....hope that the minority is quite wrong. But even if they are right, I'd rather still be alive! A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Bob A (Personally believes in Vaccination)

[Sid Belzberg]

Or by a small group of "dissident" ultra-rightwing cultists?

Hardly; most dissident doctors and scientists I have worked with are both Democrats and Republicans. Naomi Wolf, a former
advisor to the Clinton Campaign does not exactly fit into your false stereotype of "ultra-right wingers" who happen to support the anti-genocidal globalist movement.
Even though Bob and I disagree on everything, I am delighted he is still around and hope he has a long life. Unlike some people, one thing he is not is a troll.

https://rumble.com/v2hpryu-naomi-wol...documents.html

[Bob Armstrong]

The Power Behind the Throne

Sid

I think we do agree on one rather large thing.......though only the core of it.

There is, behind national governments, a Clique of strong influence, who are able to get passed laws favourable to them, and laws they favour. This Clique is international. They influence legislators in many ways......support for political campaigns, bribes, private enterprise jobs upon retirement, threats of exposure re vulnerable politicians, etc.

The make-up of this Clique? There are varied opinions.

I don't know if Sid agrees that one faction is the majority of Capitalist World Oligarchs. He does believe that the World Economic Forum (WEF) is a front for this Clique, a public influencer re promoting policies of the Clique. It is riddled with capitalist entrepreneurs. If we do agree on this, we do disagree that the WEF agenda is "part of a wider malicious plan of depopulation" (If I understand Sid correctly). I view the WEF, as Sid is well aware, as beneficially intentioned, but totally misguided (Beware the zealous well-intentioned).

The Clique is not well-intentioned.....its agenda is control of humanity, a totalitarian World Government.

I understand Sid holds the same position re the World Health Organization (WHO).

I am unsure if the United Nations is also being manipulated by the Clique, but I would certainly suspect so.

So Sid.........correct me if I have said something we have in common, with which you disagree.

Bob A (The world creates some unlikely allies)

[Dilip Panjwani]

The Power Behind the Throne

Sid

I think we do agree on one rather large thing.......though only the core of it.

There is, behind national governments, a Clique of strong influence, who are able to get passed laws favourable to them, and laws they favour. This Clique is international. They influence legislators in many ways......support for political campaigns, bribes, private enterprise jobs upon retirement, threats of exposure re vulnerable politicians, etc.

The make-up of this Clique? There are varied opinions.

I don't know if Sid agrees that one faction is the majority of Capitalist World Oligarchs. He does believe that the World Economic Forum (WEF) is a front for this Clique, a public influencer re promoting policies of the Clique. It is riddled with capitalist entrepreneurs. If we do agree on this, we do disagree that the WEF agenda is "part of a wider malicious plan of depopulation" (If I understand Sid correctly). I view the WEF, as Sid is well aware, as beneficially intentioned, but totally misguided (Beware the zealous well-intentioned).

The Clique is not well-intentioned.....its agenda is control of humanity, a totalitarian World Government.

I understand Sid holds the same position re the World Health Organization (WHO).

I am unsure if the United Nations is also being manipulated by the Clique, but I would certainly suspect so.

So Sid.........correct me if I have said something we have in common, with which you disagree.

Bob A (The world creates some unlikely allies)

Both you and Sid are right on what is happening, but between the two of you, only Sid is right in how to solve this: which is, by limiting the power of the government to only enforcing the Natural Law... even stuff like research and co-operative 'public' ventures can very efficiently happen without giving the government the power to pass corrupt, stupid laws when bribed by those with capital...