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  • #76
    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    Recess appointments have been used by virtually every president going back to George Washington. Now it is suddenly an abuse of power. Do you wonder why no one is listening and believing the left?
    Not for the entire cabinet.

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    • #77
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      Trudeau spoke by phone with Trump today - promise - 1. will be tougher of border security; 2. will be tougher on stopping fentanyl for entering USA (The two demands Trump made when saying he'll impose 25% tariff on all goods from Canada (& Mexico) going into the USA.

      Is Trudeau looking more Prime Ministerial? Is this good to raise the Liberals from the depths?

      Bob A

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

        Not for the entire cabinet.
        He doesn't need to use recess appointments for the entire cabinet. Recess appointments tend to be used when the president does not have control of the Senate. Obama tried to make recess appointments when the Congress was not in recess. Eventually it reached the Supreme Court and it was not allowed.

        The problem is that Republicans tend to be nice and let the democrat presidents have their cabinet aside from one or two ridiculous radicals. The Democrats always vote as a block.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
          I hear that Trump is bullying Republican Senators to go into recess, so that he can get his whole team in place without Senate approval.
          It is called a recess appointment. He can get his whole team in place without Senate approval for 2 years.

          Sounds like an abuse of power to me.
          He needs both the house and the senate to go into recess. If they go into recess they can't be passing any of the measures which he wants to implement. Trump will likely get all of his appointments with perhaps three exceptions: Pete Hegseth, Robert Kennedy Junior and perhaps Tulsi Gabbard though that is also uncertain. The Democrats will vote against the latter two as they are seen as turncoats. Democrats who are coming up for reelection in two years may abstain as Trump will definitely campaign for their opponents in two years.

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          • #80
            This clip of Bernie Sanders on Joe Rogan from 5 years ago has surfaced again.

            ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcB...ivePerspective

            Before 2015, I was completely ignorant of US politics. I first got interested in 2015 when Bernie did his "morning in America" campaign ad.
            I thought it was very upbeat, positive, and I looked him up wanting to know more.
            Then Trump did his famous trip down the escalator. I had heard of him, but instantly thought he was an arrogant ass.
            I did some research, and it only reinforced my initial impression.

            I posted some Bernie Sanders clips on chesstalk back in 2015. I received a mostly hostile response and labelled a communist by some.
            Oh well, what did I expect. LOL

            It is now 9 years later, Trump has destroyed the old Republican party, Biden has destroyed the old Democratic party, and everyone is bracing themselves for a second Trump administration.

            I wonder if anyone's attitude towards Bernie has changed.



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            • #81
              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
              This clip of Bernie Sanders on Joe Rogan from 5 years ago has surfaced again.

              ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcB...ivePerspective

              Before 2015, I was completely ignorant of US politics. I first got interested in 2015 when Bernie did his "morning in America" campaign ad.
              I thought it was very upbeat, positive, and I looked him up wanting to know more.
              Then Trump did his famous trip down the escalator. I had heard of him, but instantly thought he was an arrogant ass.
              I did some research, and it only reinforced my initial impression.
              My assessment of Trump at the time was the same as yours. However, most politicians tend to be arrogant. Some just hide it better than others.


              I posted some Bernie Sanders clips on chesstalk back in 2015. I received a mostly hostile response and labelled a communist by some.
              Oh well, what did I expect. LOL

              It is now 9 years later, Trump has destroyed the old Republican party, Biden has destroyed the old Democratic party, and everyone is bracing themselves for a second Trump administration.

              I wonder if anyone's attitude towards Bernie has changed.
              Bernie is now too old to be a factor. He is a very rich communist.

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              • #82
                Bernie is allied with the USA Democratic Socialists (The right smears all the left with the old USSR "Communist" label)........effective but not accurate.

                The proponents of this smear are just showing their ignorance, or are lying on purpose, knowing it is a false statement..

                Bob A

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

                  My assessment of Trump at the time was the same as yours. However, most politicians tend to be arrogant. Some just hide it better than others.

                  Bernie is now too old to be a factor. He is a very rich communist.
                  "too old" - to old to run for President in 2028.

                  "very rich" - define "very rich"

                  ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6mg...=TheYoungTurks

                  "communist" - No.

                  Who is the better champion for the average guy, Bernie or Donald?

                  I think Bernie, but Donald will get his chance to prove me wrong.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                    Bernie is allied with the USA Democratic Socialists (The right smears all the left with the old USSR "Communist" label)........effective but not accurate.

                    The proponents of this smear are just showing their ignorance, or are lying on purpose, knowing it is a false statement..

                    Bob A
                    At the time of the Cuban revolution, when there was still hope that Fidel Castro was some kind of reformer my father told the other doctors that he was a communist. They denied it and made very idealistic claims. Those who were honest later asked my father how he could have known about Fidel Castro and he said that he had heard those same speeches before. They lead only to oppression, poverty and starvation and of course much murder and misery.

                    Now Bernie will never live in his worker's paradise and so we will probably never see the outcome of his looter mentality built on envy as all communistic and socialistic philosophies are.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

                      Who is the better champion for the average guy, Bernie or Donald?

                      I think Bernie, but Donald will get his chance to prove me wrong.
                      The voters picked Donald Trump over Bernie's protege Kamala Harris. They had a good baseline of comparison between Trump's previous presidency and what Kamala was suggesting which was more of the Joe Biden policies that put the U.S. in its current mess.

                      No doubt, if you are a consumer of the main stream media line, you don't think the U.S. is in a big mess.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

                        "too old" - to old to run for President in 2028.

                        "very rich" - define "very rich"
                        He is probably worth three to five million dollars U.S. based on just his real estate (3 houses bought with cash) and disclosed investments. The net present value of his book income is probably worth about $4 million dollars. He's no Nancy Pelosi but he is not lining up at the food bank.

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                        • #87
                          The USA is a mess:

                          My Canadian Stat:
                          53 % of Canadians have $ 200 or less in savings for an emergency. They live from paycheck to paycheck, often working more than 1 part-time job.


                          Save capital to invest (A good plan)........don't think so.

                          Comparable USA Stat:
                          the same for 60-80% of the US population. Nearly 50% struggle just to pay bills and we have a crisis of the working homeless--the cost of living is so high, and pay is so poor, many working people are being forced to live out of their cars. They can't afford to pay rent. And what's worse is few people are willing to unionize. It looks bleak.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post

                            ...the cost of living is so high, and pay is so poor...

                            Bob A
                            You have accurately pin-pointed what the real problem is, Bob A.
                            And the only solution to this is "vastly more (efficient) enterprises creating demand for vastly more workers"! Something which can never be achieved by having government-run businesses where everyone's business becomes nobody's business, or by simply robbing the hard and smart working successful citizens, but something which is the very purpose of the system of Libertarianism...
                            Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Thursday, 28th November, 2024, 09:15 PM.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
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                              Trudeau spoke by phone with Trump today - promise - 1. will be tougher of border security; 2. will be tougher on stopping fentanyl for entering USA (The two demands Trump made when saying he'll impose 25% tariff on all goods from Canada (& Mexico) going into the USA.

                              Is Trudeau looking more Prime Ministerial? Is this good to raise the Liberals from the depths?

                              Bob A
                              I don't know if you intended it, but your post makes it look like Trump said "Jump!" and Justin replied "How high?"

                              Canada could have been doing things to limit fentanyl entering the USA and chose not to do those things? I'd like more details about that.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post

                                I don't know if you intended it, but your post makes it look like Trump said "Jump!" and Justin replied "How high?"

                                Canada could have been doing things to limit fentanyl entering the USA and chose not to do those things? I'd like more details about that.
                                My understanding is that fentanyl is 99% a problem coming from Mexico. Most of our fentanyl comes from the U.S.

                                We have a trade surplus with the U.S. in goods mostly because of oil. We have a big deficit in services. If Canada were to join the U.S. it would probably be as ten or possibly more separate states which would likely lean Democrat so this is on a par with buying Greenland. Not likely to happen.

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