Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

[Louis Morin]

http://www.fqechecs.qc.ca/cms/articl...vert-du-canada

[Paul Bonham]

Re: Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

http://www.fqechecs.qc.ca/cms/articl...vert-du-canada

Louis, I clicked on the link to check out for the first time an FQE website page. An option appeared at the top in which Google offered to translate the page to English. I clicked that option.

(NOTE: in the following, substitute the plus sign wherever you see the word "plus", it seems this forum will not display a plus sign):

Funny thing: Google translates "Echecs plus " (the name of the FQE chess magazine?) as "failure plus ".

The translated page shows "failure plus " all over the place!

Then I clicked on the bottom the link "Education", and the page that came up had one funny line in it: I can't remember it verbatim, but it said something about "choosing the most promising Quebec failures", which was probably meant to say "choosing the most promising Quebec chess players" or something like that.

I never knew that Echecs could be translated as "failure".

[Felix Dumont]

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Yes, "Echecs" is more commonly used as "failure". This often leads to unwanted puns... Even choosing the name of a tournament can sometimes be challenging.
The Quebec Open is abbreviated by "COQ" in French. This is usually translated as rooster (or worse), leading to poor Google translations.

In any case, there's a section of the FQE website in English : http://www.fqechecs.qc.ca/cms/article/english-about-us
It contains information about major tournaments.

Regarding the list, it is only a preliminary list of participants. Someone will take care of making a bilingual list, with the highest rating (FQE,CFC or FIDE) and the provinces of participants in about a month.

Also, perhaps some people noticed that a new WGM registered for the tournament : Sabina Foisor. Born in Romania, she now studies in Baltimore, Maryland, and fluently speaks French and English. We now have three WGMs (2 from Cuba and one from Romania) and 10 GMs.

For more information about both the CYCC and Canadian Open : http://echecsmontreal.ca/

[Felix Dumont]

Re : Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

Here's an update with exactly 3 months to go before the Canadian Open :

Canadian Open
July 19-26 2014

11 GMs, 3 WGMs, 4 IMs and 1 WIM (47 in total).

Name Section

ARENCIBIA, Walter A - 2400 GM
DE FIRMIAN, Nick A - 2400 GM
FEDOROWICZ, John A - 2400 GM
FLEITES MARTI, Yuleikys A - 2400 WIM
FOISOR, Sabina A - 2400 WGM
KOVALYOV, Anton A - 2400 GM
LAWSON, Eric A - 2400 IM
MARRERO, Yaniet A - 2400 WGM
MORADIABADI, Elshan A - 2400 GM
PEREZ, Rodney A - 2400 IM
PEREZ RODRIGUEZ, Luis Manuel A - 2400 GM
PINA VEGA, Sulennis A - 2400 WGM
ROUSSEL-ROOZMON, Thomas A - 2400 GM
RUIZ SANCHEZ, Orlen A - 2400 IM
SAMBUEV, Bator A - 2400 GM
TIVIAKOV, Sergei A - 2400 GM
VAN HOOLANDT, Patrick A - 2400
VAN WELY, Loek A - 2400 GM
VERA, Reynaldo A - 2400 GM
XIONG, Jeffery A - 2400 IM

BEAULIEU, Pierre B - U2400
DEHMEL, Jens B - U2400
DERRAUGH, Geordie B - U2400
DRKULEC, Vladimir B - U2400
HADDADI, Farshad B - U2400
WEBER, Meikel B - U2400

ARMSTRONG, Robert J. C - U2000
KRASNOSHEKY, Valery C - U2000
KROLCZYK, Jacob C - U2000
LEBLANC, Paul C - U2000
LEE, Brendon C - U2000
LEE, Nicholas C - U2000
O'BRIEN, Frank C - U2000
WHITE, Chris C - U2000

FAUST, Steven D - U1700
LEE, Frank D - U1700
LEE, Melissa D - U1700
MOLLOY, Francis D - U1700
THOMSON, Bruce W. D - U1700
VO, Dante D - U1700
VO, Long D - U1700

DEMOCRI, Fardin E - U1300 and unr.
DEMOCRI, Firooz E - U1300 and unr.
DEMOCRI, Radin E - U1300 and unr.
KULESHOVA, Julia E - U1300 and unr.
VO, Gabriel E - U1300 and unr.

VO, Dante Mini-CO
VO, Gabriel Mini-CO
VO, Long Mini-CO


CYCC
July 15-18 2014

(29 registrations)

Name Section
BYL, Reece U10
DOKNJAS, Neil U10
HUANG, Qiuyu U10
RODRIGUE-LEMIEUX, Shawn U10
YU, Ryan U10
ZHENG, Richard U10
GUO, Haotong Hazel U10G
RADIN, Claire U10G
RADIN, Paige U10G
YANG, Angelina U10G
DOKNJAS, Joshua U12
KARRANDJAS, Braeden U12
McCLUSKEY, Ethan U12
O DONOHOE, Ethan U12
TINICA, Gabriel U12
VO, Dante U12
KEMP, Maddie U12G
FAN, Run Kun U14
LEE, Nicholas U14
XU, Jeffrey U14
DOKNJAS, John U16
D'SOUZA, Justin U18
WU, Stanley U18
GUIPI BOPALA, Prince Eric Jr U8
GUO, Roger U8
RADIN, Andrew U8
VO, Gabriel U8
XU, Andrew U8
KULESHOVA, Julia U8G


www.echecsmontreal.ca

NOTE: Quite a few people sent us their registration information, but did not pay their entry fee (and are thus usually not listed here). We understand that in the case of the CYCC, many participants have their registration paid by clubs or associations. If this is the case, please contact us so we can make sure to receive all the payments.

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: Re : Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

Just checked the entry fee I should pay for Canadian Open. For my FIDE rating it's 200 CAD. Looks unusually high for Canadian Open. However, I understand this approach. Organizers want to reduce the amount of lower-rated Canadians in the Open section and increase the norm (IM and GM) chances for higher-rated players. Looks pretty logical: the lower your rating is - the more you pay. The problem is - with CFC rating above 2400 (at least now) I cannot play in any other section.

I can compare my case (no choice, high entry fee) with scenarios for imaginable 2350 player from outside of Canada. He can play in Open section for free (which is OK, usually organizers encourage foreigners to play). He is also welcome in U2400 section and here I cannot understand why 2350 FIDE can play where, but 2220 FIDE can't.

[Hugh Brodie]

Re: Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

Victor write:

For my FIDE rating it's 200 CAD. Looks unusually high for Canadian Open.

That's cheap compared to recent Canadian Opens. Last year it cost up to $250 for anyone to play.

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: Pre-registrations: Canadian Open and CYCC

Probably you are right, Hugh. But it's not the point of my post. My point is double "discrimination" of Canadian players.

[Felix Dumont]

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$200 would have been a typical entry fee for the past Canadian Open. But the average entry fee in 2014 will probably be at around $75 (since there are discounts for junior players). For a $25 000 prize fund, that's definitely a great deal.

Regarding your case, Victor, we realize there's an issue. We didn't think about such cases, where someone would have a CFC rating over 2400 and a lower FIDE rating.

You seem to perfectly understand the logic behind the entry fee. Having a section which allows norms is extremely expensive for the organizers, and we can't allow too many people with a lower rating. However, at a price of $200, for 9 games against such strong opponents, it's in my opinion definitely worth it.

In any case, there's no discrimination toward Canadian players, as we also consider foreign ratings. So we would take the highest of USCF or FIDE rating for a USA player.
We do understand your point though, and we will add special cases to the rules where people such as you could choose between U2400 and Open. The last thing we want is to force someone to pay $200 to play in the tournament, as this would go against our goal of making chess affordable. In the past we only considered FIDE rating for the U2400, so it's very likely that we will decide to do so again.

We hope to publish all the rules for the CYCC and CO within 2 weeks from now and we will try to cover all possible cases.

[Victor Plotkin]

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Thank you for your reply, Felix. Just few points.

1. The average gap between USCF and FIDE is around 50-70 points. The gap between CFC and FIDE is around 150 points (in my family the average gap is more than 200 points). So 2400 USCF player is like 2500 CFC.

2. Players from Russia and most European countries have only FIDE rating.

3. If you will consider only FIDE rating for U2400 - the problem is solved.

4. I absolutely like other financial aspects of Canadian Open and CYCC-2014 (including discount for CYCC players who play in CO also; hotel price...).

[Andy Shaw]

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We hope to publish all the rules for the CYCC and CO within 2 weeks from now and we will try to cover all possible cases.

Shouldn't this have been done beforehand? Or wait... are you the individual doing all the work for the FQE? What would Mr.Berube do without Mr.Dumont ;)

[Felix Dumont]

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Shouldn't this have been done beforehand? Or wait... are you the individual doing all the work for the FQE? What would Mr.Berube do without Mr.Dumont ;)

Most of the rules and information are on the website. But there are always details to add or situations we hadn't think about like this one.
The FQE hires a student during the summer (Roman Sarrazin-Gendron), who will have a lot of time to fill in all the details. Hopefully he should be able to give more details about what to do in Montreal and things like that.
Even though I'm the one posting on Chesstalk, one should not think that I do all the work. Both Richard Bérubé and Louis Morin spend a lot of time answering questions, taking registrations and finding titled players. After all, it's their full time job (and I'm a full time student). Our president also spends a lot of time finding sponsors.