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  • #31
    Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

    It's like a slaughter house there. Five up and five down. I sure didn't expect this.

    The second half could be different but it doesn't seem likely.
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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    • #32
      Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

      Second Sinquefield Cup

      Post Round 5 Comments

      Interview of Fabiano Caruana by Maurice Ashley:

      MA: Can you ever have imagined that you would have started five and 0 against this gang?

      FC: I couldn’t have dreamed I would have started with a perfect score. All the games are going well for me; I have been playing well but there has been some luck involved.

      MA: You had the chance to play 44…Bh4 against Nakamura and nail it. You pointed out that you missed this. When you saw he could bring his queen in and create some perpetual check chances did you feel something was wrong now having to work so hard to win the game?

      FC: I completely missed Bh4. It would have been a nice way to end the game, but I just didn’t see it.

      MA: Were you happy to see that he played 48. f5 instead of 48. Kf1?

      FC: I can’t say that I was happy, I had about two minutes and it was difficult to calculate everything, a lot of check and I was afraid I would blunder my bishop and lose.

      MA: What have you done differently for this tournament to make you play so well?

      FC: I wish I knew. I am playing the way I normally do but I am playing more quickly, taking less time and more confidently. In the middle game here it was quite complicated but I made decent moves at a good pace and it helped me later on.

      MA: The other players are happy to see a rest day. Are you happy to do so, you’re playing so well?

      FC: Very happy. The results may not show it but all the games have been difficult. I am tired. It is good to take a break.

      MA: Are you interested in 10 and 0?

      FC: I don’t think that will happen but I am interested in winning as many games as possible. If Magnus were doing it, we wouldn’t be so surprised. But for me it is unusual.

      MA: What is your favorite nickname? We have been using Fabulous Fabiano, Mr. Perfect or Don Fabiano?

      FC: (modestly) People who know me just call me Fabby. I don’t really like nicknames.

      _______

      Olimpiu Urcan quotes this biography of Fabiano:

      http://en.chessbase.com/post/who-was...p-grandmaster-

      Fabiano Caruana was born in Miami, Florida on the 30th of July, 1992, and is solely of Italian ancestry, since all eight of his great grandparents originate from Italy. Fabiano also has dual citizenship – currently he holds passports from both the United States and Italy.

      At the age of four the family moved from Miami to Park Slope Brooklyn (Bobby Fischer's former neighborhood). There, at the age of five, in an after school program at Temple Beth Elohim, his chess journey began. Within six months he played his first tournament at Susan Polgar's club in Queens, New York. Susan's club helped start his chess career. Later he played at many clubs within the New York City area. Fabiano's trainers were National Master Bruce Pandolfini and GM Miron Sher. He also trained with GM Pal Benko, when Pal was spending summers in New Jersey, and via the Internet with GM Gregory Kaidanov.

      By the age of twelve Fabiano was a FIDE Master, having won two gold medals and one silver medal at the Pan-American Youth Championships, and also multiple national scholastic championships. He also set the record – at the age of ten – of the youngest ever American to defeat a grandmaster in a USCF sanctioned tournament, surpassing the record previously held by GM Hikaru Nakamura.

      Having decided to pursue chess professionally, it was time to move forward, and Europe was the place to be. So, in November of 2004 the family moved from Brooklyn to Madrid. This ended his early chess years in the United States.

      _______

      Caruana seemed to be constantly in time trouble in the last part of the game today. This may be because the time limit is 40 moves in 90 minutes, and 30 moves for the rest with a 30 second increment a move.

      ________

      Europe-Echecs tweet: Caruana 5 – Rest of the World 0! They did not know it was impossible so they did it (Mark Twain)

      - Caruana thought for over 11 mins on move 45, and is now in time pressure!

      (Lennart Ootes tweet) – Five out of five. Where does this end?

      (Jonathan Tisdall tweet) – Really don’t understand the way Aronian is playing. Cannot remember him being so out of form.

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      • #33
        Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

        When this is over some of the players will be singing the blues and all that jazz.

        I couldn't resist.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #34
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          Caruana has White later today against Topalov in his quest to remain perfect. I'm not sure that's an advantage however given this little statistical oddity. In 8 previous encounters between the two, the score is 3/1/4 in Caruana's favour. All 4 wins (3 by Caruana and 1 by Topalov), however, have come with the Black pieces (:

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          • #35
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            I wouldn't think he can win 10 in a row. It seems only a matter of time before he draws or loses. Particularly in that company.

            He's young and I think we'll be hearing a lot more from him in the next few years.

            Caruana's games have shown some nice ideas. His play seems to flow and he makes it look easy, which it's not.

            He can draw his remaining games and win the event. I wouldn't be surprised to see some draws. It's doubtful his intent is to completely embarrass his opponents.

            I thought Carlsen would do better. Maybe he believes his press clipping on how great he is.
            Gary Ruben
            CC - IA and SIM

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            • #36
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              Wow! Plus 3.01 after just 24 moves and a piece sac for Caruana!

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              • #37
                Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                Second Sinquefield Cup

                Round Six
                September 2, 2014

                Caruana, Fabiano – Topalov, Veselin
                B46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation

                1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.Bd3 d5 8.O-O Nf6 9.Re1 Be7 10.e5 Nd7 11.Qg4 Kf8 12.Na4 Qa5 13.Re2 h5 14.Qf4 g5 15.Bd2 Qc7 16.Qg3 h4 17.Qg4 Rg8 18.Rae1 c5 19.c4 dxc4 20.Bxc4 Bb7 21.h3 Rd8 22.Bc3 Nb8 23.Re3 Nc6 24.Bxe6 fxe6 25.Rf3+ Ke8 26.Qxe6 Rg7 27.Qh6 Nd4 28.e6 Nxf3+ 29. gxf3 Bf8 30. Qh5+ Ke7 31. Bxg7 1-0

                Carlsen, Magnus – Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime
                B35 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Uogele Variation (Bc4)

                1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 g6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8. Bb3 Qa5 9. f3 e6 10. O-O d5 11. exd5 exd5 12. Qd2 Re8 13. Rad1 Bd7 14. Nxc6 bxc6 15. Nxd5 Qxd2 16. Nxf6+ Bxf6 17. Bxd2 Bxb2 18. Bc3 Bxc3 19. Rxd7 Rf8 20. Rfd1 Kg7 21. Rb7 Ba5 22. Rdd7 Bb6+ 23. Kf1 Rad8 24. Rxd8 Rxd8 25. Rxf7+ Kh8 26. Ke2 Re8+ 27. Kd3 Rd8+ 28. Kc3 Ba5+ 29. Kb2 Bb6 30. g4 Rd2 31. h4 Rh2 32. Ba4 h5 33. gxh5 Rxh4 34. Bxc6 gxh5 35. Be4 Rh1 36. f4 Rh3 37. c3 h4 38. f5 Re3 39. Re7 Ba5 40. c4 h3 41. Re6 h2 42. Bd5 Rxe6 43. fxe6 Bd8 44. Kb3 Kg7 45. Kb4 Kf6 46. Kb5 h1=Q 47. Bxh1 Kxe6 48. c5 Kd7 49. Ka6 Kc7 50. Kxa7 Be7 51. c6 Bc5+ ½-½

                Nakamura, Hikaru – Aronian, Levon
                C67 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defence, Open Variation

                1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Nxe4 5. Re1 Nd6 6. Nxe5 Be7 7. Bf1 Nxe5 8. Rxe5 O-O 9. Nc3 Ne8 10. Nd5 Bd6 11. Re2 c6 12. Ne3 Be7 13. Qe1 Bf6 14. Nf5 d5 15. Ne7+ Kh8 16. Nxc8 Rxc8 17. g3 Qd7 18. d3 Nc7 19. Qa5 Rfe8 20. Qe1 Rxe2 21. Qxe2 b5 22. c3 d4 23. c4 Re8 24. Qd1 bxc4 25. dxc4 Ne6 26. b4 d3 27. Rb1 Rd8 28. Bd2 Bg5 29. Rb2 Qd4 30. Rb3 Bxd2 31. Qxd2 Qxc4 32. Rxd3 Rxd3 33. Qxd3 Qxa2 34. Qd7 Kg8 35. Qxc6 g6 36. Bc4 Qb1+ 37. Kg2 Qxb4 38. Bxe6 fxe6 39. Qa8+ Qf8 40. Qxa7 h5 41. Qd7 Qf5 42. Qe8+ Kg7 43. Qe7+ Kg8 44. Qe8+ Kg7 45. Qe7+ Kg8 ½-½

                Standing

                Caruana 6
                Carlsen 3
                Topalov 2.5
                V-Lagrave 2.5
                Aronian 2
                Nakamura 2
                Last edited by Wayne Komer; Tuesday, 2nd September, 2014, 06:58 PM.

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                • #38
                  Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                  That event needs a "mercy" rule. :D Maybe Carauna should have to spot his opponents a pawn.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #39
                    Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                    Yasser and Shahade were discussing the odds of Caruana specifically going 6-0 to start this event. Yasser said that someone had told him it was 3%. Shahade thought it closer to .3%. I think even that is optimistic. Seems to me should be something closer to .05%, even taking into account that when you are 4-0 in a RR you have a much better chance of winning than if you are 2-2, for example.
                    "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                      Easy math Tom.

                      30% chance Fabiano wins his game lets say. 30% he wins. 30% he loses. 40% he draws. 0.3^6 *100% = 0.0729%.

                      0.07% chance he starts 6/6. This means that in one out of 1429 Sinquefield Cups will someone start 6/6. (100/0.07 = 1429)
                      Last edited by Andy Shaw; Tuesday, 2nd September, 2014, 07:05 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                        The odds of 6/6 at this level of play, where draws often seem routine, have to be small.

                        My rule of thumb on picking pro sports winners, like in baseball or hockey is that after a team has won 3 games in a row bet them to win until they lose. An exception would be an east coast team finishing game and flying to the west coast for a game the next day.

                        There are still 4 games to go and there are mathematical chances of someone else winning but it's not very likely.
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #42
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                          I don't believe your last sentence is correct. That's the odds of Caruana starting 6-0. If we assume that every player has a roughly equal chance (probably not true) then it would be 6x that, no? Also 60% chance of a decisive game at this level seems awfully high, though obviously not in this event. ;-)

                          Originally posted by Andy Shaw View Post
                          Easy math Tom.

                          30% chance Fabiano wins his game lets say. 30% he wins. 30% he loses. 40% he draws. 0.3^6 *100% = 0.0729%.

                          0.07% chance he starts 6/6. This means that in one out of 1429 Sinquefield Cups will someone start 6/6. (100/0.07 = 1429)
                          "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                          • #43
                            Second Sinquefield Cup

                            Second Sinquefield Cup

                            Post Round Six Comments

                            Interview of Fabiano Caruana by Maurice Ashley

                            MA: I want to know what have you been eating? What did you have for breakfast this morning?

                            FC: Eggs and bacon.

                            MA: Good old American breakfast. Congratulations on your game (with Topalov). Could you imagine it would go this way?

                            FC: I got my position out of the opening. I had prepared this line. So I was very comfortable and he was a bit rattled, which is normal when you are surprised from the opening and against someone who is playing instantly and has everything analyzed. Later he blundered when his position was pretty unpleasant and 23.. Nc6 just loses on the spot. He probably thought that his king could go to g7.. and after 26. Qh5 Rdf8 27. Rf6 it’s over immediately.

                            MA: You spent some time here.

                            FC: I’m sacrificing a piece so I have to double check to make sure that I haven’t missed something.

                            MA: People are comparing your performance with greats such as Karpov in 1994, that’s twenty years ago.

                            FC: In terms of play I am not even close to Karpov. I didn’t really expect I could do anything like this.

                            MA: You could go ten and 0…

                            FC: I’m not even thinking about that, I just want to play normal chess.

                            MA: You are facing Vachier-Lagrave tomorrow?

                            FC: I’m Black and as Black you are under a bit of pressure to equalize the game. He is a very dangerous player and I have to keep control and play a solid game.

                            MA: You have a 2830 rating, does that make any sense?

                            FC: It’s unexpected; I’ll try to keep a rating like that in the future if I can play good chess.
                            _____

                            Maurice Ashley also interviewed Topalov, who is showing up to talk even when he loses. Both were amazed at Caruana’s preparation. Veselin said that he missed Qh5.

                            He said that in terms of history, Caruana’s performance is comparable to Linares 1994 and San Luis.

                            Magnus Carlsen and Maurice Ashley - the WC said that he kept missing stuff. In general he said that he has played three good games with Black and three terrible ones as White and he doesn’t know why.

                            Carlsen said that he thought that Topalov played horribly today. No one is going to catch Caruana. Today, he lost the very little hope that he had of winning the tournament.

                            He wouldn’t bet on Fabiano winning the game as Black tomorrow against Vachier-Lagrave because he is a pretty solid player. Carlsen seemed down because he had a good position today and he screwed up so that put him in a bit of a foul mood.

                            ________

                            Mark Crowther in The Week in Chess elaborated on historical precedents of winning streaks:

                            Veselin Topalov was involved in two of the most frequently mentioned winning streaks at the start of events and he rates this one above those. Topalov himself started with 6.5/7 in San Luis in 2005 but pointed out a couple of the players weren't in good shape. Topalov beat Leko, drew with Anand from a winning position, then beat Morozevich, Adams, Svidler, Polgar and Kasimdzhanov before drawing out the 2nd half for victory. He seemed to rate Anatoly Karpov's 6/6 at the start of Linares 1994 more highly where he beat Lautier, Bareev (he dropped a rook in an inexplicable way), Illescas, Topalov, Ivanchuk and Polgar before a Kasparov draw in Round 7.

                            Garry Kasparov's major winning streak came in Wijk aan Zee 1999. After a first round draw with Ivanchuk he beat Van Wely, Yermolinsky, Topalov, Reinderman, Piket, Shirov, Kasimdzhanov and Ivan Sokolov, 8 games before being held by Anand.

                            _______

                            eastside writing in the USCF Forum:

                            Fine opened 5.5/6 at AVRO 1938.
                            Korchnoi opened 8/8 at Wijk aan Zee 1968.
                            Kasparov finished 12/14 at Tilburg 1989.
                            Karpov finished 11/13 at Linares 1994.
                            Carlsen finished 8/10 at Nanjing 2009.

                            If one was making a list of the best top-tier tournament starts and/or performances ever, this isn't a bad start (though certainly not at all conclusive.)

                            IMO, Caruana's 6/6 start at this event may already be the best-ever start at a top-flight tournament. (Fine played a similarly elite field, but did give up a draw, while Wijk aan Zee was not the event in 1968 that it would become later.)

                            Also IMO, Kasparov's result, while massive, was in a Category 15 event. Karpov's result, which I think most people consider superior to Kasparov's, was in a Category 18 event.

                            Probably the best comparison over the last 15 years might end up being Carlsen in 2009. Caruana has already won as many games in St. Louis as Carlsen did in Nanjing, and has done it against a Category 23 field. Looked at another way: Caruana is 3 points up with 4 rounds to go, which means the race for first is over.

                            I'm not a great chess historian by any means, but if Caruana goes an undefeated 8/10, given the unrelenting strength of this field (MVL is the "weakie", by rating), I'd have to call that the greatest elite tournament result ever. (Debating this, BTW, is part of the fun we get to have as chess fans.)
                            _________

                            From chess.com:

                            For those expecting MVL to play it safe tomorrow against Caruana, think again.

                            "I'm not going to make a draw tomorrow," the Frenchman said. "As good as he is, I'm still White."

                            Asked how chess fans will receive him if he breaks up the "perfect game," MVL laughed and said, "I really couldn't care less."

                            ________

                            - Caruana, unlike Naka, Carlsen, and many others before him, has a humility and a friendly nature that makes him very likable, and I was rooting for him from the start. What a performance, and I am absolutely stunned that anyone can win 6/6 against 2700-2800s.

                            - Easy with the words boys and girls. Carlsen is not in top shape now, yet he is holding second so far. It is OK if he is not first at every tournament.

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                            • #44
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                              Looks like Caruana doing it again 7-0. Unreal!

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                              • #45
                                Re: Second Sinquefield Cup

                                Second Sinquefield Cup

                                Round Seven
                                September 3, 2014

                                Carlsen, Magnus – Nakamura, Hikaru
                                D10 QGD Slav Defence

                                1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 dxc4 4. e3 b5 5. a4 b4 6. Ne4 Qd5 7. Nd2 c3 8. bxc3 bxc3 9. Nb1 Qa5 10. Qc2 e5 11. Nf3 Na6 12. Nxe5 Nb4 13. Qb3 Be6 14. Bc4 c2 15. Bxe6 Nd3+ 16. Ke2 Nxe5 17. dxe5 fxe6 18. Qxe6+ Ne7 19. Nd2 Qd5 20. Qxd5 Nxd5 21. Ne4 Rb8 22. Bd2 Bb4 23. Rhc1 Bxd2 24. Nxd2 Nb4 25. Nf3 Ke7 26. Ne1 Rhd8 27. f4 c5 28. Nxc2 Nd3 29. Rcb1 Nb2 30. Ra2 Nxa4 31. Rxb8 Nc3+ 32. Kf3 Nxa2 33. Rb5 Nb4 34. Nxb4 cxb4 35. Rxb4 Ra8 36. Ke4 a5 37. Ra4 Kf7 38. g4 Ke7 39. f5 h6 40. h4 Kf7 41. e6+ Kf6 42. Rd4 Ke7 43. Rd7+ Kf8 44. e7+ Ke8 45. Rd8+ Rxd8 46. exd8=Q+ Kxd8 47. Kd5 Ke7 48. g5 a4 49. Kc4 hxg5 50. hxg5 Kd6 51. e4 Ke5 52. Kb4 1-0

                                Topalov, Veselin – Aronian, Levon
                                E10 Queen’s Pawn Game

                                1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Nbd7 5. g3 dxc4 6. Bg2 Rb8 7. a4 Bb4 8. O-O O-O 9. Nd2 e5 10. Nxc4 exd4 11. Qxd4 Nc5 12. Qxd8 Rxd8 13. Bf4 Ne6 14. Be3 a6 15. Ne5 Bd6 16. Nc4 Bb4 17. Rfc1 Nd4 18. Bxd4 Rxd4 19. b3 c6 20. h3 Be6 21. e3 Rdd8 22. Ne2 g6 23. Nd4 Bd5 24. a5 h5 25. Ra4 Bc5 26. Bxd5 Rxd5 27. Ne2 Be7 28. Nc3 Rb5 29. Nd2 Rb4 30. Rxb4 Bxb4 31. Nc4 Rd8 32. Na2 Be7 33. Nc3 Nd5 34. Na4 Nb4 35. Kf1 Rd3 36. Rb1 Na2 37. Ra1 Nb4 38. Rb1 Na2 39. Ra1 Nb4 40. Rb1 ½-½

                                Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime – Caruana, Fabiano
                                D31 QGC, Charousek (Petrosian) Variation

                                1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Be7 4. Bf4 Nf6 5. e3 O-O 6. Rc1 Nbd7 7. c5 Ne4 8. Bd3 f5 9. Nf3 c6 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. Bxe5 Bf6 12. Bxf6 Qxf6 13. Ne2 e5 14. Qa4 Qh4 15. g3 Qg4 16. Rf1 Ng5 17. Kd2 Nf3+ 18. Kc3 Nxh2 19. Rh1 Nf3 20. Qa5 Qg5 21. dxe5 Qe7 22. Nd4 Nxe5 23. b3 b6 24. cxb6 c5 25. Nb5 Bb7 26. bxa7 d4+ 27. exd4 Nxd3 28. Kxd3 Bxh1 29. Rxc5 Qe4+ 30. Kc4 Qe2+ 31. Kb4 Qd2+ 32. Rc3 Bc6 33. a4 Bxb5 34. Kxb5 Qxd4 35. Rc7 Rfd8 36. Qb6 Rd5+ 37. Ka6 Rd6 38. a5 Qd3+ 39. Kb7 Qd5+ 0-1

                                Stockfish gave 14. Qa4 as questionable and the same to Black’s reply 14…Qh4 At that time MLV had 23 minutes left on his clock and Caruana 47. At move 17. Kd2 the ratios were 8 minutes to 40 minutes.

                                Comments on chessbomb: - mvl should resign; every kid can see this is a mate in 112

                                - Check Caruana's shoes.

                                - Fischer once won the U.S. Championship 11/0. Afterwards Benko congratulated second-place Larry Evans for the victory, and Fischer for the exhibition.

                                - but fischer had the unfair advantage of being fischer.

                                - One good tournament and everyone thinks Caruana is the next Fischer.. LOL
                                Last edited by Wayne Komer; Wednesday, 3rd September, 2014, 06:49 PM.

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