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  • #16
    Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

    Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
    So, I gather the treasurer and the rest of the exec did their usual fine job of reviewing the CFC finances.
    I don't plan to comment during the meeting at this forum. Questions can be addressed there.

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    • #17
      Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

      How can I get a list of the current CFC "governors" (or "voting members")? The CFC web site only shows those from last year (not to mention all the other outdated news).

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      • #18
        Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

        Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
        How can I get a list of the current CFC "governors" (or "voting members")? The CFC web site only shows those from last year (not to mention all the other outdated news).
        It's discouraging that we can't keep our own website updated with such simple matters. I'll see what I can do, Hugh.

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        • #19
          Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

          Originally posted by Fred McKim View Post
          It's discouraging that we can't keep our own website updated with such simple matters. I'll see what I can do, Hugh.
          When I was a voting governor, I always felt that the website had no principal keeper, with time to do it. The people handling it were too busy to give it the time it needed. But it seemed no other volunteer was coming forward.

          What is needed, I think, is a voting member, with the skills, who is not otherwise volunteered, to become "Keeper of the Website" as his/her sole job. Of course, I really don't see why the volunteer could not also be a "non-voting member".

          Bob A (former voting member)

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          • #20
            Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
            When I was a voting governor, I always felt that the website had no principal keeper, with time to do it. The people handling it were too busy to give it the time it needed. But it seemed no other volunteer was coming forward.

            What is needed, I think, is a voting member, with the skills, who is not otherwise volunteered, to become "Keeper of the Website" as his/her sole job. Of course, I really don't see why the volunteer could not also be a "non-voting member".

            Bob A (former voting member)
            http://www.chesstalk.info/forum/show...in-CFC-website

            I have raised a separate topic on what a CFC member look out for in CFC official website. I don't think CFC authorities care enough to even look at my posting what more reply. I always believe in any business, if you have a website, it is very important to make sure all the data in the website are of professionally kept and updated properly. If not, people will never take seriously of that organization. I have spoken to many people / players and they are mostly have the same opinion as mine.

            CFC does not have a official office and that is why it is very important to have the website in tip top condition. That is how you can communicate with the members.

            Gary

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            • #21
              Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

              Originally posted by Gary Hua View Post
              http://www.chesstalk.info/forum/show...in-CFC-website

              I have raised a separate topic on what a CFC member look out for in CFC official website. I don't think CFC authorities care enough to even look at my posting what more reply. I always believe in any business, if you have a website, it is very important to make sure all the data in the website are of professionally kept and updated properly. If not, people will never take seriously of that organization. I have spoken to many people / players and they are mostly have the same opinion as mine.

              CFC does not have a official office and that is why it is very important to have the website in tip top condition. That is how you can communicate with the members.

              Gary
              I think Bob Gillanders (CFC executive director) and Ken Craft (CFC vice president) are CFC officials and they have replied to that thread. I think some of the complaints on the thread are valid and some aren't.

              For a website to be "professionally kept and updated properly" requires more volunteers or money than we currently have available. Personally I think that we need to be using magazine content to update the website. We have no shortage of people offering suggestions. We do have a shortage of volunteers.

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              • #22
                Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                For a website to be "professionally kept and updated properly" requires more volunteers or money than we currently have available.
                I suppose Kirsan could have been alerted to this situation before the recent FIDE election... perhaps he would have done something about it! HAHAHAHAHA!

                Instead he hands you money to be used ONLY to hand out GM and IM norms. The elite matters much more than the grassroots members.

                Upside-down thinking....


                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                Personally I think that we need to be using magazine content to update the website. We have no shortage of people offering suggestions. We do have a shortage of volunteers.
                Perhaps the people to whom you hand out GM and IM norms will volunteer? HAHAHAHAHA!
                Only the rushing is heard...
                Onward flies the bird.

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                • #23
                  Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                  The amount of hatred that you bestow upon us fellow mortals in the chess world is so incredible and astonishing that it continues to befuddle and confound me. How is it possible that someone like you, who the chess world has never heard of before popping on this thread a few years ago, could generate such an eccentric and bizarre response every single time?

                  You are an amazing individual Paul Bonham, never change.
                  Shameless self-promotion on display here
                  http://www.youtube.com/user/Barkyducky?feature=mhee

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                  • #24
                    Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                    Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
                    The amount of hatred that you bestow upon us fellow mortals in the chess world is so incredible and astonishing that it continues to befuddle and confound me.
                    If you are feeling hatred, it is because it lies deep within you. To be rid of it, you must bring it to the surface and release it as you would release a butterfly to the wind.



                    Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
                    How is it possible that someone like you, who the chess world has never heard of before popping on this thread a few years ago, could generate such an eccentric and bizarre response every single time? ...
                    When I was a little boy, and my older brother would act against me, I would go to my father and complain. My father would bring my older brother and I together and then...... he would make me apologize to my older brother.

                    That is one way I learned to think out of the box and understand the true nature of a problem.
                    Only the rushing is heard...
                    Onward flies the bird.

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                    • #25
                      Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                      Hi Vlad,

                      Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                      I think Bob Gillanders (CFC executive director) and Ken Craft (CFC vice president) are CFC officials and they have replied to that thread. I think some of the complaints on the thread are valid and some aren't.


                      For a website to be "professionally kept and updated properly" requires more volunteers or money than we currently have available. Personally I think that we need to be using magazine content to update the website. We have no shortage of people offering suggestions. We do have a shortage of volunteers.
                      >>Yes. I admit Bob G replied two of my concerns one of which is weekly updating of the rating which he is doing great and I gave him credit for it. He also tried to erase of some of the outdated information. But what about the others points ? Are they not valid for discussions and a reply to members ?


                      >>Unless you think that the website should remain unchanged at the current status.

                      By the way, I appreciate your reply

                      Gary
                      Last edited by Gary Hua; Wednesday, 22nd October, 2014, 08:10 AM.

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                      • #26
                        CFC Website: An Unresolvable Issue?

                        It seems CFC is caught between a rock and a hard place re the CFC website:

                        Gary is right that today, a website is critical for a membership group, to communicate with its membership. And it must be kept up to date, and have new material to attract its members, beyond announcements affecting members. Do you think the initiative a while ago of Canadian Chess News on the website meets the aspect of "regular new material"?

                        Vlad seems right that no CFC member volunteer has come forward to handle the CFC website file.

                        So the status quo will maintain, with a few tweaks when the issue comes up on the radar, as it regularly does, when someone has a few minutes.

                        Is there no solution for CFC?

                        Bob A (former voting member)

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                        • #27
                          Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

                          Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
                          If you are feeling hatred, it is because it lies deep within you. To be rid of it, you must bring it to the surface and release it as you would release a butterfly to the wind.
                          That is just a bit silly and based on the notion of catharsis which comes from the psychoanalytic perspective popularized by Freud and others. Most recent psychological studies have come to question the assumptions underlying this approach. Certainly it has been largely discredited in most studies which compare alternative approaches. I took several classes in abnormal psychology which I find very useful in understanding some of the trollish denizens of chesstalk such as yourself. Freudian approaches provide some insight into people who have experienced arrested development.

                          Originally posted by Paul Bonham AKA The Penguin View Post
                          When I was a little boy, and my older brother would act against me, I would go to my father and complain. My father would bring my older brother and I together and then...... he would make me apologize to my older brother.
                          Interesting but seriously, dude, way too much information. It reads like a the commercial for that new series Gotham. Before they were super criminals like the Penguin, the Joker or Cat Woman they were just ordinary twisted petty criminals. This is the story of their origins.

                          We can blame your father for the twisted individual you were at the age of eighteen. After that its all on you.

                          In certain subcultures not being a rat would certainly be an important lesson for a father to pass on to his son. Unfortunately the lesson also runs counter to what you would have needed to learn in order to effectively function in the larger society. It does explain the archetype which you are seeking to live out here on chesstalk (ie the fearsome troll living under the bridge). You are really a gatekeeper or threshold guardian and a largely ineffective one at that.

                          I find the approaches of Jung, Campbell and Perls more interesting and helpful for healthy functioning individuals which group you should at least aspire to join.

                          That is one way I learned to think out of the box and understand the true nature of a problem.
                          How is that working out for you? Are you happy in general? You don't seem happy.
                          Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Wednesday, 22nd October, 2014, 11:55 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

                            Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                            That is just a bit silly and based on the notion of catharsis which comes from the psychoanalytic perspective popularized by Freud and others. Most recent psychological studies have come to question the assumptions underlying this approach. Certainly it has been largely discredited in most studies which compare alternative approaches. I took several classes in abnormal psychology which I find very useful in understanding some of the trollish denizens of chesstalk such as yourself. Freudian approaches provide some insight into people who have experienced arrested development.



                            Interesting but seriously, dude, way too much information. It reads like a the commercial for that new series Gotham. Before they were super criminals like the Penguin, the Joker or Cat Woman they were just ordinary twisted petty criminals. This is the story of their origins.

                            We can blame your father for twisted individual you were at the age of eighteen. After that its all on you.

                            In certain subcultures not being a rat would certainly be an important lesson for a father to pass on to his son. Unfortunately the lesson also runs counter to what you would have needed to learn in order to effectively function in the larger society. It does explain the archetype which you are seeking to live out here on chesstalk (ie the fearsome troll living under the bridge). You are really a gatekeeper or threshold guardian and a largely ineffective one at that.

                            I find the approaches of Jung, Campbell and Perls more interesting and helpful for healthy functioning individuals which group you should at least aspire to join.



                            How is that working out for you? Are you happy in general? You don't seem happy.
                            LMAO; most entertaining post of the day (although it is early)
                            ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

                              Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
                              LMAO; most entertaining post of the day (although it is early)
                              No Dale Carnegie mind control powers were used in making that post.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

                                Originally Posted by Paul Bonham (response to Bindi Cheng post)
                                If you are feeling hatred, it is because it lies deep within you. To be rid of it, you must bring it to the surface and release it as you would release a butterfly to the wind
                                .


                                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                                That is just a bit silly and based on the notion of catharsis which comes from the psychoanalytic perspective popularized by Freud and others. Most recent psychological studies...
                                Bindi Cheng feels hatred, superimposes it onto his nemesis (me). You on the other hand feel psychological inferiority, and superimpose that onto your nemesis (me). I understand fully and completely what is going on.

                                You, Vlad Drkulec, are experiencing a hiatus from your previously humdrum no-account life by suddenly being President of a niche group, and using that post to suddenly 'appear' (via this equally niche podium) god-like; a veritable cornucopia of intelligence, wisdom and power. Which gives a whole new meaning to Kerry Liles' "LMAO" reply, even if Kerry didn't intend that meaning.



                                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                                Are you happy in general? You don't seem happy.
                                Happiness is a relative concept, there is no absolute happiness in this physical universe because of time. Any notion of absolute happiness is polluted by the limits and transience of time, and any reference to happiness needs to be made relative to have any meaning.

                                That you would ascribe some notion of absolute unhappiness to me -- and do so without so much as a grain of evidence -- is simply a refutation of the knowledge you pretend to have in your self-elevating references to various thinkers. You have learned nothing except names and concepts, which is like a person memorizing various mathematical equations and pretending to be a mathematician. You have not experienced the concepts, to understand their meaning.

                                You merely demonstrate that a little bit of knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing.

                                Am I happy relative to you? Yes, because I know what's coming and you don't. Whatever happiness you are having right now in relation to your former pre-CFC President self is soon to undergo what in stock market parlance is called a 'plunge'. Of course, that is assuming that you actually DO care about chess, which is something I don't personally believe. I see through the curtain and know that you USE chess for your own ends.

                                Anyone that cared about chess would not have treated Sid Belzberg in the manner that you did, especially after he cleared up any misconceptions you pretended to have about his motives.

                                But what is most telling is that you would rather reply to my comments about a childhood experience than comment upon the much more important and relevant issues (to ChessTalkers) of FIDE money -- actual $$$ -- earmarked to GM and IM norms while you personally rail against lack of VOLUNTEERS to help with the CFC website. What a dereliction of duty and a total lack of understanding! You are CFC President and you spend time on li'l ol' me while the whole CFC infrastructure is crumbling around you (but there's Kirsan money for the elite). Busted!
                                Only the rushing is heard...
                                Onward flies the bird.

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