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When is the Canadian Closed / Canadian Championships?
I am guessing our top players like Hansen, Kovalyov, Spraggett and soon to be Preotu have tournament schedules to prepare and short notice won't work if they already have prior commitments in place.
What an embarassing organization this CFC. Makes me wonder why our GM's still play under our flag. I certainly wouldn't.
Any timetable when the Canadian Championships will be announced?
I am about 90% confident the Canadian Closed will take place in July. We have received a bid that I expect will either be accepted or initiate a final call for other bids. Stay tuned.
I was obviously optimistic when I suggested that the Canadian Open location and dates should be in place by the end of November. We had an interested organizer, but I'm not sure if anything has advanced past that stage. If I am right about the Closed, then the Open would likely have to be held in August.
I am about 90% confident the Canadian Closed will take place in July. We have received a bid that I expect will either be accepted or initiate a final call for other bids. Stay tuned.
I was obviously optimistic when I suggested that the Canadian Open location and dates should be in place by the end of November. We had an interested organizer, but I'm not sure if anything has advanced past that stage. If I am right about the Closed, then the Open would likely have to be held in August.
With respect to the Canadian Open, and shifting its traditional time, I would only say that re foreign GM's you will have to look at the dates available to some of them for a summer North American tour, as some of them do. Canada must be careful not to set up a conflict with some other tournament attractive to a 2015 summer touring GM.
With respect to the Canadian Open, and shifting its traditional time, I would only say that re foreign GM's you will have to look at the dates available to some of them for a summer North American tour, as some of them do. Canada must be careful not to set up a conflict with some other tournament attractive to a 2015 summer touring GM.
Bob
There are not that many summer options available. If we put the Canadian Closed into the slot immediately after CYCC then we have to go with a Canadian Open in August. We don't want a conflict with the Quebec Open so the time frame is already squeezed a bit.
Anyone who wants to organize a Canadian Closed bid should let us know and submit a bid within two weeks or we will go with the only bid currently on the table.
Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Wednesday, 17th December, 2014, 07:51 PM.
There are not that many summer options available. If we put the Canadian Closed into the slot immediately after CYCC then we have to go with a Canadian Open in August. We don't want a conflict with the Quebec Open so the time frame is already squeezed a bit.
I think the Canadian closed could be planned with NO consideration whatever of the CYCC.
At some point these high level zonal events have to be decoupled from the kids events. If kids qualify they should make a choice which one they want enter.
Working around the kids events seems to me like the tail wagging the dog.
A Canadian closed doesn't have to be more than a dozen players.
A Canadian closed doesn't have to be more than a dozen players.
Hi Gary:
I think that you are only theoretically right.......the problem is that the organizer budget depends to some significant degree on registration revenues, and 12 players doesn't cut it.......will be a loss. That is why we have such great difficulty with organizing the Can. Closed, the Women's Can. Closed, and the Can. Seniors' Closed........insufficient revenue to the organizers. This is not the case for the CYCC, where it is much easier to find sponsors to cover expenses, re tournaments for KIDS.
These Closed's need to be Open (with a floor rating), to attract as many players as possible, to try to get sufficient revenue that expenses are covered, with some help from elsewhere (and some salary to the organizers would help to keep them interested in future).
A Canadian closed doesn't have to be more than a dozen players.
The Canadian Closed used to be a 16 player round-robin and it was unfair. Lower rated provincial/regional champions got in over rising masters in the big urban centres. On the other hand, the recent 60 player swisses with players as low as 2000 affected the final standings and who got norms. To only include those who have a chance of winning a top finish, should there be a 36 player maximum? Should the tournament be a master training class for rising juniors? For players under 2300 or even 2350, should only allow provincial/regional champions, titled players, Canadian Junior/women/senior champions? Or include but have double entry fee for 2200s, triple for 2100, quattro for 2000s? Many questions, but it comes down to having dedicated volunteers, corporate sponsors, a tv deal.
I think the Canadian closed could be planned with NO consideration whatever of the CYCC.
It could be but it would probably be dumb on the part of organizers to do that. CYCC takes place one day after the World Open and is done before the next weekend (Monday through Thursday).
At some point these high level zonal events have to be decoupled from the kids events. If kids qualify they should make a choice which one they want enter.
Working around the kids events seems to me like the tail wagging the dog.
A Canadian closed doesn't have to be more than a dozen players.
A Canadian Closed with a dozen players would probably lose around $10,000 unless we changed the model significantly. In any case we need twelve rounds for a zonal apparently.
Anyone who wants to organize a Canadian Closed bid should let us know and submit a bid within two weeks or we will go with the only bid currently on the table.
When will the dates and logistics of this accepted bid be made available to the general public?
A Canadian Closed with a dozen players would probably lose around $10,000 unless we changed the model significantly. In any case we need twelve rounds for a zonal apparently.
Considering it's currently once every couple of years with the winner going to the World Cup, possibly the CFC should budget $5,000.00 per year. The cost for looking after the expenses of players shouldn't fall to the organizers.
Here's from the CFC handbook:
"i) the Canadian Champion and Runner-Up shall have their entry fee, accommodation and meal expenses paid by the tournament organizers;
ii) free entry shall be given to IM’s and GM’s;
iii) free accommodation should be provided for GM’s; "
The governors, in their wisdom, have set rules where the organizer of the Canadian Zonal almost has to adopt some of the entrants and then few, if any, want to bid on holding the event.
The CFC coming up with money for the event or making the rules more palatable for the organizers is certainly something to consider.
There are not that many summer options available. If we put the Canadian Closed into the slot immediately after CYCC then we have to go with a Canadian Open in August. We don't want a conflict with the Quebec Open so the time frame is already squeezed a bit.
Anyone who wants to organize a Canadian Closed bid should let us know and submit a bid within two weeks or we will go with the only bid currently on the table.
It has been two weeks. When will the Canadian Closed be revealed?
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