Over on the CFC site, the governors are currently voting on the following motion...
"436. Rating Non-Residents. If a non-resident player or new Canadian resident has a USCF or FIDE or FQE rating, the rating system in which the player has played the most recent games will be used to determine his first CFC rating. If a non-resident is inactive in Canada for a year but has a change in his/her USCF or FIDE or FQE rating, his/her CFC rating will be adjusted accordingly. [Leblanc/McKim, Oct 2013]A Canadian may have a foreign FIDE-rated tournament count for their CFC rating by sending a letter to that effect in advance to the CFC. (And include $25 in advance with the letter sent to the CFC office. The letter should be received by the CFC office not less than 1 month before the start of the event, and include the $25 flat rating fee. - CFC Office policy effective December 1st, 2003) The CFC will rate the event only to the extent that FIDE does. Results must be reported within one month after the tournament is completed. Failure to submit a crosstable after registering an event bars the player from registering a tournament participation for three years. [see Motion 78-15; GL, April 1978, p. 39]"
Only governors can comment on that site, so I am posting some feedback and questions here.
It seems that there is a provision allowing CFC members to apply to have a specific foreign FIDE rated tournament cross rated as CFC, but this requires that someone sends a letter 30 days ahead of time and enclose $25.
These provisions seem a bit onerous and work against the intent of the regulation. While I appreciate the logic behind having to provide some advance notice (to prevent people from only submitting their good results), why is 30 days necessary and why does the request have to be in the form of a letter? Why not just require an email requesting the cross rating anytime before play begins? Further, the $25 fee also seems a bit burdensome both financially and in terms of logistics. Is it really necessary?
Doing a bit of research, I discovered that the USCF handles this issue in a different way.
For players with FIDE ratings 2200 and above, all foreign FIDE rated events are cross rated automatically. The player has no choice, whether he/she wants it or not, their FIDE results are cross rated.
For players rated below 2200 FIDE, USCF members can "opt in" to have their FIDE results cross rated, but once they "opt in" they can never opt out again and this seems sensible as it prevents people from cherry picking the results they want cross rated. Importantly, these USCF procedures require no specific applications on a tournament by tournament basis and involve no fees.
One additional thing the USCF does is to adjust the FIDE rating to make it USCF rating equivalent. For players rated above 2000, FIDE ratings are multiplied by 1.02 and 20 points are added. So, for example 2000 FIDE is treated the same as (2000 * 1.02) + 20 = 2060 USCF.
The USCF approach seems much fairer in the sense that it is applied uniformly and does not depend on players deciding whether or not to apply for a specific tournament. It also seems more workable for both players and administrators rather than the ad hoc one that is being proposed.
Does anyone else have a perspective on how or whether foreign FIDE rated should be CFC cross-rated?
"436. Rating Non-Residents. If a non-resident player or new Canadian resident has a USCF or FIDE or FQE rating, the rating system in which the player has played the most recent games will be used to determine his first CFC rating. If a non-resident is inactive in Canada for a year but has a change in his/her USCF or FIDE or FQE rating, his/her CFC rating will be adjusted accordingly. [Leblanc/McKim, Oct 2013]A Canadian may have a foreign FIDE-rated tournament count for their CFC rating by sending a letter to that effect in advance to the CFC. (And include $25 in advance with the letter sent to the CFC office. The letter should be received by the CFC office not less than 1 month before the start of the event, and include the $25 flat rating fee. - CFC Office policy effective December 1st, 2003) The CFC will rate the event only to the extent that FIDE does. Results must be reported within one month after the tournament is completed. Failure to submit a crosstable after registering an event bars the player from registering a tournament participation for three years. [see Motion 78-15; GL, April 1978, p. 39]"
Only governors can comment on that site, so I am posting some feedback and questions here.
It seems that there is a provision allowing CFC members to apply to have a specific foreign FIDE rated tournament cross rated as CFC, but this requires that someone sends a letter 30 days ahead of time and enclose $25.
These provisions seem a bit onerous and work against the intent of the regulation. While I appreciate the logic behind having to provide some advance notice (to prevent people from only submitting their good results), why is 30 days necessary and why does the request have to be in the form of a letter? Why not just require an email requesting the cross rating anytime before play begins? Further, the $25 fee also seems a bit burdensome both financially and in terms of logistics. Is it really necessary?
Doing a bit of research, I discovered that the USCF handles this issue in a different way.
For players with FIDE ratings 2200 and above, all foreign FIDE rated events are cross rated automatically. The player has no choice, whether he/she wants it or not, their FIDE results are cross rated.
For players rated below 2200 FIDE, USCF members can "opt in" to have their FIDE results cross rated, but once they "opt in" they can never opt out again and this seems sensible as it prevents people from cherry picking the results they want cross rated. Importantly, these USCF procedures require no specific applications on a tournament by tournament basis and involve no fees.
One additional thing the USCF does is to adjust the FIDE rating to make it USCF rating equivalent. For players rated above 2000, FIDE ratings are multiplied by 1.02 and 20 points are added. So, for example 2000 FIDE is treated the same as (2000 * 1.02) + 20 = 2060 USCF.
The USCF approach seems much fairer in the sense that it is applied uniformly and does not depend on players deciding whether or not to apply for a specific tournament. It also seems more workable for both players and administrators rather than the ad hoc one that is being proposed.
Does anyone else have a perspective on how or whether foreign FIDE rated should be CFC cross-rated?
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