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  • #16
    Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

    Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post
    Jean Im shocked. Dont you play speed chess anymore?
    Yes I do at my own cost. But it does not give speed chess any more news or intrinsic value and significance.
    What would you think about a great painter being given 5 minutes to do his painting ?
    Or a piano contest where speed would be a primary criteria for judging ?

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    • #17
      Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

      Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
      Yes I do at my own cost. But it does not give speed chess any more news or intrinsic value and significance.
      Once again, Jean attempts to force his views on everyone and turn us all into passive copies of each other, none of us thinking for ourselves. And he uses subtly persuasive -- but totally wrong -- arguments.


      Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
      What would you think about a great painter being given 5 minutes to do his painting ?
      What Hans Jung thinks, what I think, and what Jean thinks doesn't matter. What matters is whether enough people think it's great to turn it into something like a contest or a theater production or a TV show, and whether other people watching it think it's great. I think this is a worthy idea in today's TV market: take great painters of today and make them produce a painting in 5 minutes. Then have judges give them a score, and lowest score is eliminated. It could be called "Brush With Greatness". With a name and a concept like that, someone's going to make money from that idea. Who cares whether the paintings produced can compare to Mona Lisa or other great works? That's not the point. Relatively speaking, the paintings produced would be lacking in detail and refinement, but that doesn't mean that they would lack any artistic value at all. Art is a very subjective matter; some people see greatness (and will pay big money) for a painting that shows nothing but one side red and the other side blue. Wow, that actually happened, in Canada no less, in the late '80s or early '90s. Auctioned for millions.


      Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
      Or a piano contest where speed would be a primary criteria for judging ?
      Again, some people would like this idea. Make piano players play classical works at 10x their normal speed. Judges would judge them for errors and for presentation. Some people would say "Fantastic!"

      Try again, Jean. Your attempts to homogenize chess shall not succeed because WE CAN THINK FOR OURSELVES. You can criticize others who don't think like you all you want, just like I could criticize those who attend pro bowling matches. But the world isn't about everyone being like you or like me.... it's about variety.
      Only the rushing is heard...
      Onward flies the bird.

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      • #18
        Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

        I'm surprised at how many people are saying that blitz/bullet doesn't have much to do with skill. Ok I saw one post and then i logged in and couldn't find it! I play too much blitz/bullet myself, but it has a lot to do with chess skills. Now someone who is great at classical might not be good at blitz, but if your not good at chess you won't be good at blitz. Now take bullet chess. People seem to think (people who don't know much about chess that is) that it's who can move faster. That is to some extent is true when it's down to the wire with 4 seconds each it's better to just move and not bother taking material (unless it was in your premove). Now that isn't really chess, but if newer to chess player played me in bullet chess they could be as fast as they could possibly be and i'd still beat them, probably within the first 15 moves. Blitz is even more so skill, especially if it's increment. Of course there is the "streak" factor (if you play blitz you know what i'm talking about, if not let's just say that for some unknown reason winning come's in streaks as does losing. If you don't believe me look at the Aronian-Nakamura blitz match in St. Louis) which doesn't have anything to do with your skill but i would argue that blitz is skill, but you have to of course have good reflex's and quick thinking to be good at it. Now that i have successfully proved to myself that i can justify playing blitz cause it's mostly skill I have completed all that this post was for! (ok not really)

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        • #19
          Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

          Originally posted by Caleb Petersen View Post
          I'm surprised at how many people are saying that blitz/bullet doesn't have much to do with skill. Ok I saw one post and then i logged in and couldn't find it! I play too much blitz/bullet myself, but it has a lot to do with chess skills. Now someone who is great at classical might not be good at blitz, but if your not good at chess you won't be good at blitz. Now take bullet chess. People seem to think (people who don't know much about chess that is) that it's who can move faster. That is to some extent is true when it's down to the wire with 4 seconds each it's better to just move and not bother taking material (unless it was in your premove). Now that isn't really chess, but if newer to chess player played me in bullet chess they could be as fast as they could possibly be and i'd still beat them, probably within the first 15 moves. Blitz is even more so skill, especially if it's increment. Of course there is the "streak" factor (if you play blitz you know what i'm talking about, if not let's just say that for some unknown reason winning come's in streaks as does losing. If you don't believe me look at the Aronian-Nakamura blitz match in St. Louis) which doesn't have anything to do with your skill but i would argue that blitz is skill, but you have to of course have good reflex's and quick thinking to be good at it. Now that i have successfully proved to myself that i can justify playing blitz cause it's mostly skill I have completed all that this post was for! (ok not really)
          For some reason, I found this post extremely funny. Completely off-point and rambling - I'm not even sure what I just read.

          10/10 troll.

          The rest of this thread is just stupid.
          i rep back 3+

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          • #20
            Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

            Originally posted by Kevin Me View Post
            For some reason, I found this post extremely funny. Completely off-point and rambling - I'm not even sure what I just read.

            10/10 troll.

            The rest of this thread is just stupid.
            If I had to guess, I'd say that bullet probably doesn't help for those who are borderline ADHD. This can then lead to strange results when these guys write down their thoughts...

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            • #21
              Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

              Originally posted by Kevin Me View Post
              For some reason, I found this post extremely funny. Completely off-point and rambling - I'm not even sure what I just read.

              10/10 troll.

              The rest of this thread is just stupid.
              I have been accused of being many things but a troll is not one of them. Rambling and off point yes, but I don't get how it's a troll post.

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              • #22
                Re: Naka vs So Death Match 30

                Originally posted by Caleb Petersen View Post
                I have been accused of being many things but a troll is not one of them. Rambling and off point yes, but I don't get how it's a troll post.
                Not only that, but Kevin's post, at least the part that "The rest of this thread is just stupid.", runs contrary to Forum Guidelines:

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                9. Give an opinion and back it up with a reason. Throwaway comments such as "Game X pwnz because my friend and I think so!" could be considered pointless at best, and inflammatory at worst.
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