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    The World #1 under 16 player, Wei Yi of China continues to climb up the ratings with a straight line graph in the past five years. >>>>>>>
    https://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=8603405

    And no sign of slowing down! In the current World Teams event he continues to perform at the 2800 level with an undefeated 75% score against 2600 players over 13 games >>>>>>
    http://www.2700chess.com/ (click on magnifying glass to see results)

    He may well be the challenger for Magnus Carlsen in 3 - 4 years.
    Last edited by Vlad Dobrich; Tuesday, 28th April, 2015, 07:51 AM.

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    Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

    I am also of that opinion. He shows great potential, and if he can keep doing as well against 2700's as he is against 2600's he'll be high indeed! He's already very close to breaking into the top 40 of the world!

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      Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

      Scrap top 40, he's #34!

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        Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

        Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
        The World #1 under 16 player, Wei Yi of China continues to climb up the ratings with a straight line graph in the past five years. >>>>>>>
        https://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=8603405

        And no sign of slowing down! In the current World Teams event he continues to perform at the 2800 level with an undefeated 75% score against 2600 players over 13 games >>>>>>
        http://www.2700chess.com/ (click on magnifying glass to see results)

        He may well be the challenger for Magnus Carlsen in 3 - 4 years.
        Your information is inaccurate:

        There were only 9 games in the WTT and the average rating of his opponents may have been over 2600
        but since it is the internet I guess accuracy in reporting is not important. His current results are impressive.
        5 Akobian 2622 ½ b −1.1 World Team Championship (1) 19.04.2015
        6 Balogh 2651 ½ w −0.7 World Team Championship (2) 20.04.2015
        7 Vitiugov 2736 ½ b +0.5 World Team Championship (3) 21.04.2015
        8 Melkumyan 2651 1 w +4.3 World Team Championship (4) 22.04.2015
        9 Ezat 2479 1 w +2.2 World Team Championship (5) 23.04.2015
        10 Rodshtein 2667 1 w +4.5 World Team Championship (6) 25.04.2015
        11 Moiseenko 2697 ½ b −0.1 World Team Championship (7) 26.04.2015
        12 Gonzalez Vidal 2557 1 w +3.0 World Team Championship (8) 27.04.2015
        13 Sengupta 2576 1 b +3.3 World Team Championship (9) 28.04.2015

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          Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

          My information was taken from Live ratings 2700 + which originally showed all 15 games as being from the World Teams -
          and now I see they have denoted the first four games as being from the Chinese League.

          The World Teams event is even more impressive - 5 wins and 4 draws against opponents averaging 2626. That translates to a performance rating of 2876 about the same as Magnus Carlsen's live rating !

          If your comment of "I guess accuracy in reporting is not important" was directed at me, you are grievously off the mark - I try to be absolutely accurate in everything I do.

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            Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

            Chess-Results gives a breakdown of Wei Yi’s matches in the World Teams at:

            http://chess-results.com/tnr170346.a...0&wi=984&snr=9

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              Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

              Originally posted by Caleb Petersen View Post
              Scrap top 40, he's #34!
              Number 33 on the official May list.

              http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=men

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                Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                Wei Yi's win today with Black in R3 of the Chinese Championship 2015 has him passing Nepomniachtchi, fellow countryman Yu Yangyi (who lost to Ding Liren), Andreikin, and Naiditsch in rating. His live rating of 2723.3 makes him currently number 29 in the world. Most impressive for someone still 13 days shy of their 16th birthday.

                http://www.2700chess.com/

                I don't think there can be any doubt that Wei Yi is ahead of Carlsen at the same age. Looking at Carlsen's Wiki page, Carlsen was finishing minus 2 (2 losses and 7 draws) at the November 2006 Tal Memorial and again going winless at Corus 2007 as a young 16-year-old with 4 losses and 9 draws.
                Last edited by Jack Maguire; Wednesday, 20th May, 2015, 08:00 AM.

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                  Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                  Wei Yi picked up another 5.5 FIDE points today with a win against China's top player, Ding Liren. His 2728.8 live rating lifts him 2 more spots to number 27 in the world.

                  http://www.2700chess.com/

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                    Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                    Here's Wei Yi's win against Ding Liren. Nice to see the Berlin Wall come tumbling down (:

                    http://www.viewchess.com/cbreader/20...487122687.html

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                      Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                      GM Liu Qingnan missed a golden opportunity to defeat Wei Yi today. After Wei Yi's 37.Rd2? Liu Qingnan responded with 37. ...Rxd2?? and the evaluation changed from minus 2.1 to plus 1,000. As Capablanca said, "a good player is always lucky." (:

                      http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-...Yi-Liu_Qingnan

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                        Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                        Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
                        I don't think there can be any doubt that Wei Yi is ahead of Carlsen at the same age. Looking at Carlsen's Wiki page, Carlsen was finishing minus 2 (2 losses and 7 draws) at the November 2006 Tal Memorial and again going winless at Corus 2007 as a young 16-year-old with 4 losses and 9 draws.
                        Bollocks.

                        At that time, Carlsen was adjusting to top level chess, playing almost exclusively against top 10-20 players. If I remember correctly, he really soared right after Corus 2007. The thing is that Carlsen progressed a lot between 16 and 18 yo.

                        Let's wait and see if Wei Yi can do the same. Not saying it's impossible, but, in my opinion, there's still a huge step left to climb for him.

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                          Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                          Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen

                          The 15-Year old Champion. Wei Yi Wins Chinese Title and Closes on the Elite

                          From chess-news.ru, May 31, 2015

                          In Xinghua, the men's and women's individual championships of China have taken place, both 11-round all-play-alls.
                          In the men's event, the champion is 15-year-old Wei Yi, the big hope of Chinese chess, who at the start of this year had a big success in Wijk aan Zee. He has already passed 2700 and today his rating is 2721.

                          Despite the absence of big names such as Bu Xiangzhi, Ni Hua and Li Chao, the tournament was very strong - in the Orient, there is never a shortage of strong players. As well as Wei Yi, there were three other 2700s - rating favourite Ding Liren, last year's champion Yu Yangyi and regular participant of the past super-tournaments, Wang Hao.

                          Wei Yi played the event confidently, and even a sole defeat in the final round against yet another young talent Lu Shanglei, who recently shone at the Aeroflot blitz, did not stop him taking clear first place. The champion's final score was 7.5 out of 11. Second place, half a point behind, was taken by Ding Liren, with Wang Hao and Yu Yangyi a further half point behind.

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                            Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                            Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                            There are a number of articles lately on Wei Yi being a possible contender for Magnus Carlsen in the next five years.

                            Chess24 says: While few can doubt the Chinese prodigy will soon be inundated with offers, he hasn't yet been given the chance to test his strength in a supertournament. There's no shortage of people regretting that Wei Yi hasn't been invited to some of the world's best tournaments, above all to the recently created Grand Chess Tour (Norway Chess, the Sinquefield Cup and the London Chess Classic). What is sure is that he'll play in Tata Steel 2016, since in addition to the organisers' good taste in inviting young and promising talents Wei Yi went on to earn the right to play in the top event by winning this year's Challengers.

                            https://chess24.com/en/read/news/wei...magnus-carlsen

                            See also the Chess By The Numbers article on the same:

                            https://chessnumbers.wordpress.com

                            This concludes: And as we discussed last time I posted about Wei Yi: there is reason to suspect that he has in fact not plateaued yet, so rating gains over the coming 10 months may be likely. Since that article went up, all he’s done is won his first national championship. In May he defeated five of his countrymen, including most notably a win over Ding Liren, en route to a clean victory in the tournament. A loss in the final game put a small damper on the statistical side of things, costing six rating points and leaving his tournament performance rating at “only” 2730, but that doesn’t reduce the brilliance of the result for the then-15-year-old.

                            So when will Wei Yi and Magnus Carlsen get a chance to “settle” this over the board? Of course one game won’t actually settle anything, statistically speaking, a long match would be much better, but let’s not be greedy! We’ll take a game whenever it comes up! As it so happens, it seems extremely likely that the two will play at least one game at classical time controls before our 10 month window is complete. After crushing the Challengers section at Tata Steel, Wei Yi has earned an invitation to play in the Masters section next January.

                            Presumably we should see Magnus playing that supertournament as well, to defend his title. It’s a long way off, and right now I’m more focused on seeing how Wei Yi performs at the World Cup this fall, or in any other major tournament he may play in that hasn’t been announced yet, but fast forwarding seven months it appears that we should get our showdown. How patient are you?

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                              Re: Wei Yi vs Magnus Carlsen in 2020

                              Check out today's game Wei Yi vs Bruzon at the 6th Hainan Danzhou tournament. Tal-like. 2700chess.com has the game.
                              "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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