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In the upcoming federal election how would you be likely to vote?
What I learn in economics is that money goes into multiple channels : it can be stored in the corporation for future use, it can goes in salary for management, in salary for the workers or to the shareholder. The normal behavior of a corporation is to reduce as much as possible the percentage of the wealth that goes to the workers. I find that unacceptable and with the TPP the salary of the people in Canada will go down which is very bad. It is the spendings from families that keep the economy alive.
That is not correct, at least for firms that need workers that have any skills and abilities. In that case they will try for the optimum pay which will allow them to retain workers.
Generating wealth is irrelevant if all the cash is moved out of Canada covertly without being taxed.
In this statement you show the vast gulf that exists between us. Without the generation of wealth there nothing that can be taxed. Generating wealth is not irrelevant because there are multiplier effects that cause more wealth creation to take place. Lower tax levels increase these multiplier effects.
ETA: a Canadian, crossing the border at Windsor or some such place, was prevented from entering the USA because she once sought medical treatment for depression. The US Border Authorities had access to her medical information, ignoring Canadian privacy laws, and simply rejected her, treating her as a "risk" to herself or others. These are police state tactics, pure and simple, using the lack of privacy to bully the citizens into submission and silence.
In addition to the lack of privacy above, there is also this: " the TPP actually features provisions that might expand the ability of Internet providers to block content." That's a great way for the Harper regime to prevent dissidents from communicating.
No thanks.
You mean like Obama's buddy who asked that RICO statutes be applied to anyone denying climate change? Frankly the left is much more likely to engage in abuses of the type you are accusing the right of contemplating.
This situation with people being denied entry due to suicide threats is a recurring pattern. I doubt that it has anything to do with hospital records. More likely it has to do with police records - at least that's what a quick google search seems to suggest. If you try to commit suicide you will likely be in the RCMP database which is shared with the U.S. border services.
You mean like Obama's buddy who asked that RICO statutes be applied to anyone denying climate change? Frankly the left is much more likely to engage in abuses of the type you are accusing the right of contemplating.
This situation with people being denied entry due to suicide threats is a recurring pattern. I doubt that it has anything to do with hospital records. More likely it has to do with police records - at least that's what a quick google search seems to suggest. If you try to commit suicide you will likely be in the RCMP database which is shared with the U.S. border services.
A Canadian woman has been refused entry into the US by border officials due to her past history of clinical depression despite the medical records detailing her condition being confidential, it is claimed.
Ellen Richardson, who is paraplegic, was due to fly from Pearson airport in Toronto to New York in order to embark on a 10-day Caribbean cruise when a U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent denied her entry, Canadian newspaper Toronto Star reported.
"I was turned away, I was told, because I had a hospitalization in the summer of 2012 for clinical depression,"’ Richardson told the newspaper.
The agent is understood to have cited Act 212 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act, which denies aliens entry on health-related grounds including any "mental disorder and behavior associated with the disorder that may pose, or has posed, a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others".
But Richardson's lawyer told the newspaper that her medical records "are supposed to be strictly confidential" and said he had written to Ontario's health minister Deb Matthews to find out how the alleged breach could have occured.
It's a good thing the CFC doesn't collect my medical records. Because freedom.
Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
Its always best to go to more detailed original sources rather than digest articles which made no attempt to get to the truth. The CBC interview video clearly states that she made a suicide attempt possibly in 2012 (based on other google sources) which also generated a 911 call by her mother.
In the Toronto Star article which came out one day earlier than the Telegraph article it clearly references a 2001 suicide attempt which also did generate a police report. In other sources accessible to readers from google it indicates that the 2001 incident left her a paraplegic. There are also several CBC articles which typically involve contacting the principals and actually talking to them unlike the Telegraph article which was simply a summary of the more sensational aspects of the Toronto Star and CBC articles.
When you are crossing a border into the U.S. you can be denied entry for sometimes what appear arbitrary reasons but you are consenting to have their laws apply to you. Living on the border I am well aware of this. I recall in 2009 when attending tournaments in the U.S. there seemed to be a lot of questions, particularly when attending more than one tournament in a month. In fact I was delayed once so that I missed the start of the game though only by about half an hour because I usually added a one hour safety factor in the mornings that I attended tournaments. The issue was probably the multiple visits in short periods of time. My response was to stop going to the U.S. and I tried to see how many CFC games I could play in one year (168). My only forays into the U.S. in 2010 were probably not related to chess. There were a rash of reports of incidents at the border that year and I think it led to a lot of people curtailing their visits to the U.S. When I started attending U.S. tournaments again about a year or so later the conversations at customs seemed much more cordial and it coincided with reports that the previous policies were hurting tourism.
Re: Michael Geist: The TPP is a danger to privacy in Canada.
You don't seem to be getting the main point, Vlad. We expect privacy in our medical records, just as we expect privacy from the snooping eyes of a police state on our opinions, which, even if dissident, we are perfectly entitled to in a "democracy". In fact, there is a very strong argument that privacy is not only important for democracy, but it is also important for the development of personality. Ramrod conformity, in which everyone is expected to think the same thoughts, begins with the authorities doing careful surveillance to root out those that are different. And then, not only democracy, but the rich diversity of personality is also stepped on. And so on.
The US Border authorities could only make their decision if they had access to "confidential" personal medical records of Canadian citizens. a gross violation of Canadian privacy and HR law. Again, from Michael Geist ...
Two provisions are the source of privacy concern. First, according to the Canadian government’s summary of the agreement, the agreement “prevents governments in TPP countries from requiring the use of local servers for data storage.”
This means that everyone's medical (and other) records could be available to a foreign government.
Frankly, just because some people don't care about a potential police state, it doesn't follow that my privacy should go out the window with their privacy. I like an open mind, but not so much that my brain falls out. Cheers.
Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
You don't seem to be getting the main point, Vlad. We expect privacy in our medical records, just as we expect privacy from the snooping eyes of a police state on our opinions, which, even if dissident, we are perfectly entitled to in a "democracy". In fact, there is a very strong argument that privacy is not only important for democracy, but it is also important for the development of personality. Ramrod conformity, in which everyone is expected to think the same thoughts, begins with the authorities doing careful surveillance to root out those that are different. And then, not only democracy, but the rich diversity of personality is also stepped on. And so on.
The US Border authorities could only make their decision if they had access to "confidential" personal medical records of Canadian citizens. a gross violation of Canadian privacy and HR law. Again, from Michael Geist ...
There is no indication that the U.S. Border authorities have access to our confidential personal medical records. It is also clear that in each of these incidents they did have access to the CPIC database of criminal and police records including the results of 911 calls which are a more reasonable explanation of how they knew the details of her situation.
If they do have access to private medical records then it is likely the fault of the Ontario government which I would not put anything past in terms of incompetence and gross negligence as they have clearly shown on every file that they are in charge of.
This means that everyone's medical (and other) records could be available to a foreign government.
Aside from billings which would be stored on provincial government servers, most medical records are stored in individual doctors' offices and hospitals. Many are still stored in the form of paper charts. Billing information are not stored in a format that could conveniently be read by Homeland Security.
Frankly, just because some people don't care about a potential police state, it doesn't follow that my privacy should go out the window with their privacy. I like an open mind, but not so much that my brain falls out. Cheers.
So now Harper derangement syndrome is kicking in to blame him for your allegation that the Ontario left wing government is sharing confidential information and health records with U.S. border officials and TSA? The feds don't have access to that information so how can they share it with Homeland Security?
Re: Michael Geist: The TPP is a danger to privacy in Canada.
Conservative did refuse to recognize that chess is a sport and to properly fund the CFC. They also shamefully withdrawn from the Kyoto protocol, giving us the dishonor of being the sole country in the world to have withdrawn.
When we add a covert trade agreement that Harper knows would never have been accepted of we would have time to read the whole thing before the election, the choice is clear. Between Trudeau's deficits and Mulcair balanced budget, the choice is clear. It is even clearer when we know that the Liberal would ratify the TPP.
The TPP is one of the worst threat to our sovereignty that we ever had to face. It's ISDS it atrocious.
In April 2015 the director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch, Lori Wallach, said
“We consider it inappropriate to elevate an individual investor or company to equal status with a nation state to privately enforce a public treaty between two sovereign countries", … “[ISDS] gives extraordinary new privileges and powers and rights to just one interest. Foreign investors are privileged vis-a-vis domestic companies, vis-a-vis the government of a country, [and] vis-a-vis other private sector interests",
"... the basic reality of ISDS: it provides foreign investors alone access to non-U.S. courts to pursue claims against the U.S. government on the basis of broader substantive rights than U.S. firms are afforded under U.S. law".
If you believe that investors and corporations should be granted a higher rank then our Country, then vote Conservative or Liberal because they both agree with you. Otherwise, make the wise move of voting NDP.
Our NDP candidate in Toronto-Danforth, Craig Scott, will win.....I'll be voting for him, and Tom Mulcair, who I think ran a very good, clear and principled campaign, regardless of how the NDP does today.
I do not trust polls because they can be tailored to say what the client who has paid for them wants to hear. Most corporations, including survey houses, are against the NDP corporate tax hike and in favour of the TPP. If the NDP has a majority, the fact the Mulcair has not been elected would be irrelevant. He is trailing by 1,9% which is probably less then the error margin of the survey.
Tom has the best program, and his the only one that will torn out the TPP.
Re: The TPP is aimed to harm China and harm to Canadian sovereignty is another "benef
After agonizing over voting strategically for the Cons (to avoid Trudeau as PM) or voting with my principles, I chose the latter and went with the Christian Heritage Party leader who happened to be running in my riding. He has the only party promising to try to do something about people who go the route of having abortions in Canada (probably worldwide resulting in more lost lives than terrorism I suppose), and they are as yet untainted by corruption afaik. They also promise as a goal to pay off the national debt.
Regarding the military, the Cons only spent 1.2% of GDP on it, and haven't treated veterans well besides. Not clear to me the other parties would do worse on that file. Regarding foreign policy, attacking ISIS largely by air doesn't do the trick for Canada as far as saving civilians goes. The USA from what I gather is not doing everything it can to even greatly cut off ISIS funding. I have to ask myself, why should we fight even half-@$$ed if everyone else is not doing their part. Something seems fishy about the whole situation, besides. On the other hand, it's nice to fight for humanity even a little, and maybe the rest of the world will participate more when things get much worse - then we'll already be there, still - but this seems a weak argument for our national interest. There's something remotely similar that seems to be going on as far as how Harper is handling Putin, as opposed to how Obama is (again seems fishy, if not at least incompetent). Thus, Harper has both somewhat disappointed me and made me somewhat satisfied with his handling of the military and foreign affairs.
Going beyond the wishful thinking of voting for a fringe party (and avoiding getting my hands dirty at the ballot box, in a positive way), in any situation without the Conservatives becoming the government, I'm afraid it's soon going to be reeking of joints everywhere in public, and likely proportional representation as the electoral system will be brought in as well, which I'm also wary of. Assessing the TPP properly is beyond me, noting that though I used to oppose globalization, that train has long since left the station. It's not clear to me that the NDP would do a worse job on the economy than the Cons, except I don't like socialism/pandering to unions on principle. That's why the Cons would be my prefered choice normally of the three major parties (I'm avoiding going further on discussing the negatives of Trudeau and the Libs - many Canadians are likely to see them unfold in reality soon enough). Thus, for those who don't have a fringe party in their riding that they like, I say hold your nose and vote for the Cons.
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