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Caruana and Nakamura are already qualified for the Candidates. They are playing in the World Cup simply for the money - they weren't obligated to play. :-)
Caruana and Nakamura are already qualified for the Candidates. They are playing in the World Cup simply for the money - they weren't obligated to play. :-)
Indeed, Hugh. But qualification via the World Cup takes priority. Should either player qualify again via the World Cup, then the 3rd place finisher in the Grand Prix, Jakovenko, secures a Candidates spot. Should Caruana and Nakamura finish first and second in the World Cup, then Tomashevsky also qualifies from his 4th place Grand Prix performance.
Indeed, Hugh. But qualification via the World Cup takes priority. Should either player qualify again via the World Cup, then the 3rd place finisher in the Grand Prix, Jakovenko, secures a Candidates spot. Should Caruana and Nakamura finish first and second in the World Cup, then Tomashevsky also qualifies from his 4th place Grand Prix performance.
I don't see how they can finish 1st and 2nd since they are in the same half of the draw and would meet in the semis (assuming both make it that far).
"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
I don't see how they can finish 1st and 2nd since they are in the same half of the draw and would meet in the semis (assuming both make it that far).
You're absolutely right, Tom. So only Jakovenko, not Tomashevsky, could secure a Candidates spot by either Caruana or Nakamura finishing 1st or 2nd (which would be guaranteed if they met in the semis).
The World Cup of Rugby starts today and one must be careful not to write anything here that will have some viewers thinking they will soon be getting the latest news on England vs Fiji from Twickenham.
The transmission here of some games is being delayed, so, for example, we could not see all the moves on the board of Giri-Leko but can see them shaking hands, with Giri winning. Eljanov-Grischuk and Wei Yi-Areshchenko are similarly under a 15-minute delay.
After four hours there have been a number of matches decided. On chessbomb there is a general sadness that Ivanchuk has lost:
- Ivanchuk plays KID! Wow! He really wants to win.
- Chucky down. He becomes too old to keep enough energy to win.
- Please don’t lose Chucky!
- Chucky will hold.
- wow if Rxb7 happens it might get really hot, black will have to come up with some fortress ideas
- I think I’d offer a draw here if I was black and go for a bottle of vodka or two
- Damn, chucky is out
- At least I don’t need to watch the rest of the tournament now.
- Grischuk is also out, two bright players eliminated in one day, will root now for Wei Yi.
World Cup Baku 2015
Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 18, 2015
Classical
Jakovenko, Dmitry – Ivanchuk, Vassily
E71 King’s Indian, Makagonov System
- Ivanchuk loses - Every time that happens, an angel dies in heaven, or something like that.
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Actually, the Grischuk game is still going on, as I write. With the time delay, the commentators are not sure what the state of the game is.
Evidently there are some mathematicians watching on chessbomb. This exchange:
- must have been an inverted hedgehog with a half-twist
- The Moebius Hedgehog
- or, in 3D Klein’s Hedgehog
- why did the hedgehog cross the road? It didn’t, it stayed at home behind a fortress of pawns
- A non-Euclidean hedgehog.
Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 18, 2015
Classical
Eljanov, Pavel – Grischuk, Alexander
E10 Queen’s Pawn
Pavel Eljanov was born May 10 1983 and is a Ukrainian chess grandmaster. His father was International Master Vladimir Eljanov. He has won two team gold medals and one individual silver medal at Chess Olympiads.
He married Ukrainian WIM Olena Dvoretska in April 2009, and is a qualified lawyer.
Eljanov made it to the world's top 100 in October 2004 when he was rated 2613, and has remained in the top 100 since then. He first made it to the 2700 rating mark in July 2007, and has rated above 2700 continuously since April 2013. His highest rating and ranking to date were in September 2010 when he was rated 2761 and ranked #6 in the world.
Not too shabby. He could win this thing!
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Giri beat Leko, so Carlsen is wrong about a 9-draw match between the two:
Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 18, 2015
Classical
Giri, Anish – Leko, Peter
E06 Catalan, Open, Classical Line
- Not sure how much AK will push to win , playing vs the world #5 is a novelty for him
- lol of course, but when you lose in knockout, you play for win next game, otherwise just offer draw, dont u think?
- AK always try to play for win ...
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Therefore, Topalov-Shanglei Lu, Svidler-Radjabov, So-Le, Tomashevsky-MVL, Nakamura-Nepomniachtchi, Adams-Dominguez and Kramnik-Andreikin all go through to the tiebreak tomorrow.
These nine players are into Round 4: Ding Liren, Wei Yi, Giri, Wojtaszek, Eljanov, Jakovenko, Caruana, Mamedyarov and Karjakin.
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Does everyone still think that the eventual winner will be one of Topalov, Nakamura, Caruana or Giri?
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Trashtalk Much Later
(Anish Giri - tweet) - You are forgiven, Magnustrodamus, we are all humans!
Last edited by Wayne Komer; Friday, 18th September, 2015, 12:51 PM.
While Topalov may well be the biggest betting favourite for tomorrow's tiebreaks, if it gets to Blitz I definitely prefer Lu Shanglei. The latter has a 2780 Blitz rating vs Topalov's pedestrian 2647 Blitz rating (:
The most surprising odds to me for tomorrow's tiebreaks are Wesley So at 137/50. He's never beaten Le Quang Liem in 8 classical games (1 loss and 7 draws) and Vietnam's best is clearly the better player at quicker time controls, holding a 2770 to 2635 advantage at Rapid and 2799 to 2726 advantage at blitz. This will be their first ever encounter at quicker time controls and those numbers clearly favour Le Quang Liem.
It strikes me that the World Cup is the premier chess spectator event. The results of the games and the personalities seem more important than the games themselves.
On the EC Forum, Tim Harding, has predicted the results of Round Four, and the tiebreaks have not even been played yet.
He is a prolific author, a correspondence player and chess observer. I have checked and find that I have 26 of his volumes in my collection. The Hague library lists 56 of his histories and monographs. I bought The Fighting Fajarowicz for the attractive title only, because, quite honestly, I would not know a Fajarowicz if I passed one on the street.
He has two recent books Eminent Victorian Chess Players and Joseph Henry Blackburne. He describes himself as Historian and Kibitzer. Below, his World Cup kibitzing:
Here are my guesses from Round Four, from which you may infer play-off winners:
Topalov beats Svidler
Wei Yi beats Ding Liren [see current New In Chess cover]
Giri beats Wojtaszek
So beats Tomashevsky
Nakamura beats Adams [can't see Mickey losing tomorrow; he's been conserving energy for this]
Eljanov beats Jakovenko [have to go with the guy on a streak]
Caruana beats Mamedyarov [pressure of home expectation has to tell some time]
Karjakin beats Kramnik
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Continuing in this daring vein, Round Five:
Wei Yi beats Topalov
Giri beats So
Nakamura beats Eljanov [just think Naka can survive the regular games, after which he is sure to win]
After five hours, the last two matches are on with Michael Adams-Leinier Dominguez 4-3 and Ian Nepomniachtchi-Hikaru Nakamura 4-3 heading into the second 5+3 game.
In the other games of the day, Topalov, Svidler, So, MVL and Andreikin are all through to the next round.
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Later: Dominguez loses on time, so Adams is through to the next round. Nakamura beats Nepo in the second game of 5+3 so they are headed to armageddon in 10 minutes. What a match!
Last edited by Wayne Komer; Saturday, 19th September, 2015, 11:20 AM.
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