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  • Paul Bonham
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    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Trump is proving what I have long suspected: high-level business people can be more successful than lifelong politicians at politics. They generally don't do it because they have better things to do with their time and energy.

    I say this even though I would never vote for Trump.

    A question for Canadians: if Canada had its own version of Donald Trump in the business world (Conrad Black? LOL! or maybe a former sports great like Gretzky) and this character were to run for PM in Canada, and were to make unbelievable statements as Trump is doing... would Canadians be duped as easily as Americans are being duped by Trump?

    It's quite remarkable. Perhaps the internet age is making this kind of thing more possible: just make outrageous statements with a 'feel-good' nature to them, such as "I'm going to make America great again" repeated over and over, and the masses will BELIEVE!

    There was a news piece on Sunday: apparently Trump makes a lot of his money through licensing his name to real estate developments. People who buy into these developments get to meet Trump, and are led to believe that Trump is actually the developer. When it goes south, the investors find out that Trump has no involvement and can just walk away, and somewhere in the contract in very small print it mentions that he was not the developer.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    And Trump wins again...

    Overall, Trump has 79 delegates, Cruz has 16, Rubio has 15, Kasich has 5, and Ben Carson has 3.

    It takes 1,237 delegates to win the Republican nomination.

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Trump is proving what I have long suspected: high-level business people can be more successful than lifelong politicians at politics. They generally don't do it because they have better things to do with their time and energy.

    I say this even though I would never vote for Trump.

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    Crazy eh. The thought of a President Trump is truly terrifying.
    I was having great difficulty understanding why anyone would vote for him, but then I decided to put myself in the shoes of a die hard Republican voter. I asked myself, who would I vote for? Then I understood. :(
    Indeed it is a scarey possibility, Bob. But now that the field is narrowing hopefully one of Rubio or Cruz will push Trump into the background (we can hope - not that either of those two is a prize). :)

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    And Trump wins again ...
    Crazy eh. The thought of a President Trump is truly terrifying.
    I was having great difficulty understanding why anyone would vote for him, but then I decided to put myself in the shoes of a die hard Republican voter. I asked myself, who would I vote for? Then I understood. :(

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  • Neil Frarey
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    And Trump wins again ...

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Super-delegates is the way the party establishment keeps outsider anti-establishment types out.....may be an obstacle Bernie just can't overcome?
    Bob A
    Well Bob, another state has passed judgement on Bernie Sanders.
    A crushing loss, Bernie has no chance, his candidacy is over, just a footnote when a crazy old man socialist had a dream.
    Or at least, that is how the mainstream media is reporting it today.
    Don't you believe it.

    I get a chuckle about how they say it's all about momentum, they they fail to see the momentum of the Sanders movement. He was 20+ points behind Clinton in December, and now losses Nevada by just 5 points. Hmmm, looks like momentum to me!

    It is still an uphill battle, but.....
    Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Sunday, 21st February, 2016, 02:16 PM.

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    if you are referring to Bernie Sanders he appears to have only achieved a tie in the New Hampshire primary tied with Hilary Clinton in terms of delegates.
    WHAT? Well, back to Mr. Internet for help.
    Pledged Delegates - based on popular vote
    Bernie Sanders 15
    Hillary Clinton 9
    Unpledged Delegates - based on ???
    Bernie Sanders 0
    Hillary Clinton 6

    So total New Hampshire delegates - 15 each.

    But, those unpledged delegates can change their votes!
    Oh, us elections are so,.....convoluted..err,..umm....complex!

    And yes Virginia, the Republicans have unpledged delegates also.
    Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Sunday, 14th February, 2016, 11:56 AM.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post

    Re: Sid's question. That looks like a typo. Running for two different CP's? I don't think so.
    I see, you seem to imply that it is the same Nigel Hanrahan (your good self) but the Government seems to have one of the Communist parties listed incorrectly, So which one of the Communist parties did you run as a candidate for? The Communist Party of Canada or The Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist) or perhaps The Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist)(Manitoba) or The Communist Party of Canada (Manitoba) ? The second party I listed seems to have a very interesting history however if the 1986 and 1988 and Manitoba General election pages are correct you appear to have been a candidate for The Communist Party of Canada (Manitoba) in the Fort Rouge Riding in 1986 and the Sturgeon Creek Riding in 1988 in addition to running for The Communist Party of Canada in the November 1988 federal election in the Winnipeg-St James electoral district.
    Look's like you have not learned anything from history judging by your posts for the last few years here on chesstalk.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manito...election,_1986
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manito...election,_1988

    http://canadianelectionsdatabase.ca/...erson&ID=13713

    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan
    I'm curious too. Don't you have anything positive to say about the first Jew in US history to win a Presidential Primary?
    I am not aware of any "Jew" that won a US Primary, if you are referring to Bernie Sanders he appears to have only achieved a tie in the New Hampshire primary tied with Hilary Clinton in terms of delegates.
    By the way, from where I sit, someone's ancestral origin including my own does not bear any relevance on the merit of their achievement. You might have a fascist like view on how one measures what is relevant but I do not. Make no mistake about it, the Soviet brand of communism and Putin's brand of democracy is nothing but thinly veiled fascism with a dash of kleptocracy thrown in.
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 15th February, 2016, 09:57 AM.

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  • Nigel Hanrahan
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Trump will make America great again.
    That's what they said about Hitler. Be careful what you wish for.

    Re: Sid's question. That looks like a typo. Running for two different CP's? I don't think so.

    I'm curious too. Don't you have anything positive to say about the first Jew in US history to win a Presidential Primary?

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Trump will make America great again.

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    Great question Tom! Hey Nigel, I am just curious, are you the same Nigel Hanrahan that was a political candidate in Manitoba in the late 1980s? See link
    http://canadianelectionsdatabase.ca/...erson&ID=13713
    That would explain his rabid anti-americanism.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan
    The 1% should be afraid.
    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Some people get smarter with age. Some don't.

    I've always wondered why the people who whine about the 1% don't become CEOs and bankers if the jobs are so easy and pay so well then donate 99% of their income to the less fortunate.
    Great question Tom! Hey Nigel, I am just curious, are you the same Nigel Hanrahan that was a political candidate in Manitoba in the late 1980s? See link
    http://canadianelectionsdatabase.ca/...erson&ID=13713
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 13th February, 2016, 08:01 PM.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Feel the Bern

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Super-delegates is the way the party establishment keeps outsider anti-establishment types out.....may be an obstacle Bernie just can't overcome?

    Bob A
    There is a wild card in all this. Hillary may have some legal problems.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    He may have won the election but as they showed on the late night comedy network, Hillary actually tied Bernie because of the super-delegates which supposedly all went Clinton's way. So in terms of delegate counts the result of a 60% to 39% victory is that they split the delegates 15 to 15. Not very democratic despite the name of the party in charge of these shenanigans.
    Super-delegates is the way the party establishment keeps outsider anti-establishment types out.....may be an obstacle Bernie just can't overcome?

    Bob A

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