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    Chess Forbidden in Islam

    January 21, 2016

    (NEWSER) – A video clip of Saudi Arabia's top cleric saying that the game of chess is "forbidden" in Islam because it wastes time and leads to rivalry and enmity among people has provoked heated debate, and widespread criticism, among Arabic Twitter users. The clip was shared on YouTube in December, gaining traction in recent days on social media.
    Some Twitter users mocked Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al Sheikh, saying chess is an intelligent game and that is why conservative clerics decry it. Others defended his religious advice, saying that many other Islamic scholars have also warned that the game can be addictive and cause people to lose focus from their daily prayers and remembrance of God. Similarly, Shiite Iran's Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani previously declared that chess is religiously prohibited because it could be used for gambling.

    In the 44-second clip, Al Sheikh says "the game of chess is forbidden," backing up his statement by referring to a verse in the Quran that bans gambling, intoxicants, and idolatry. Answering a question posed to him by a viewer on the Saudi religious Almajd network, the mufti says chess "wastes time and money and causes rivalry and enmity" because it makes rich people poor and poor people rich. Despite some top religious scholars frowning upon chess, the Saudi sheikh's opinion is not seen as a formal edict that could lead to a ban on the game in the kingdom. Games such as backgammon and cards are popular among men in the Middle East. Muslims, who introduced chess to Europe, have been playing the game since the 7th century in Persia.

    http://www.newser.com/story/219355/t...forbidden.html

    Chess forbidden in Islam, rules Saudi mufti, but issue not black and white

    Kareem Shaheen in Beirut (The Guardian)

    Saudi Arabia’s grand mufti has ruled that chess is forbidden in Islam, saying it encourages gambling and is a waste of time. Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh was answering a question on a television show in which he issues fatwas in response to viewers’ queries on everyday religious matters.

    He said chess was “included under gambling” and was “a waste of time and money and a cause for hatred and enmity between players”.

    Sheikh justified the ruling by referring to the verse in the Qur’an banning “intoxicants, gambling, idolatry and divination”.

    It is not clear when the fatwa was delivered.

    Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq’s supreme Shia religious authority, has previously issued rulings forbidding chess.

    After the 1979 Islamic revolution, playing chess was banned in public in Iran and declared haram, or forbidden, by senior clerics because it was associated with gambling. But in 1988, Iran’s then supreme leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, lifted the ban and said it was permissible as long as it was not a means of gambling. Iran now has an active confederation for playing chess and sends players to international games.

    Moves to suppress chess are likely to have come as a surprise to the seventh-century Muslims who conquered Persia and adopted the game before exporting it to Europe.

    Muslim scholars tend to place chess, a skill-based game, in a different category from games of chance, such as dice, but frown upon it if it distracts a person from performing the five daily prayers. Placing bets under any circumstances is forbidden.

    Nigel Short, the British chess grandmaster, told the BBC that forbidding chess in Saudi Arabia would be a “great tragedy”.

    “I don’t consider chess to be a threat to society. It is not something that is so depraved as to corrupt morals, ” he said.

    “Even Ayatollah Khomeini came to the conclusion that he’d gone too far and repealed his own ban. ”

    The region’s clerical establishment figures are no strangers to seemingly strange fatwas, or edicts. In the early 2000s, Saudi and other clerics issued a fatwa against the popular Pokémon franchise, and during football’s 2010 World Cup in South Africa, religious scholars in the United Arab Emirates said that using the widely reviled vuvuzela instrument was forbidden if the sound produced was above 100 decibels.

    It is unlikely that Sheikh’s ruling will be enforced, and more plausible that chess will be relegated to the status of other minor vices, such as music, which many in the clerical establishment frown upon. Moreover, since the ruling was in response to a specific question, it was probably meant as an advisory opinion rather than a formal edict.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ia-grand-mufti

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    Re: Chess Forbidden in Islam

    Saudi Arabia is a member of FIDE and the national federation has its own web page (if you can understand Arabic).

    http://www.saudichess.com/

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      Chess Forbidden In Islam

      January 22, 2016

      A member of the Saudi Chess Association, Musa BinThaily, took to Twitter on Thursday to defend the game, saying that it had nothing to do with gambling and that the association had held 70 events in the kingdom. He posted photos of Saudi players at the group’s events, including one that showed members of the group posing with a prince from the United Arab Emirates and said that the Saudi Chess Association will continue holding events everywhere unless forced otherwise.

      And the pièce de résistance:

      To dispel any notion that chess is anti-Islamic, Mr. BinThaily posted an image of a chess set with crescent moons atop the kings instead of crosses.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/22/wo...=top-news&_r=0

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      • #4
        Re: Chess Forbidden in Islam

        Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
        Saudi Arabia is a member of FIDE and the national federation has its own web page (if you can understand Arabic).

        http://www.saudichess.com/
        An RT story quotes Musa Bin Thaily as follows:

        Originally posted by RT
        “The fatwa may or may not restrict the chess events, after all, many things are said to be illegal and religiously banned in Saudi Arabia,” Musa Bin Thaily, an engineer, who also leads the country’s chess association, said through his Twitter.

        Bin Thaily went on to give the example of music festivals, another activity frowned upon by religious conservatives, yet allowed to happen freely, but admitted that officials would have a “justification” to ban chess “based on the urgency of the issue.”

        Bin Thaily went on to post dozens of photos from recent events in Saudi Arabia, insisting that chess in the country is flourishing, held back only by the fact that the local federation cannot join the international chess body FIDE, due to a previous fatwa, issued in 1976.
        This seems to conflict with the listing of the Saudi Federation on the FIDE web pages. Iran lifted the ban a few years after it was established, and now sends GMs all over the world (including to several Canadian Opens) to play.

        Makes you wonder why Canada sells billions in weapons to a country whose highest religious authorities does stuff like this. Then again, bombing Embassies (Iran's), water supply infrastructure, schools and Yemeni day care centers is pretty nasty too, but our various federal governments [including the present one] make mock condemnations and $mile.

        Islam vs. Chess: Saudi players face toughest opponent after top cleric's condemnation
        Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Friday, 22nd January, 2016, 01:47 PM.
        Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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        • #5
          Saudi religious leader's fatwa against chess

          Supplemental:

          Several press reports have incorrectly stated the fatwa as new and that chess was now banned in Saudi Arabia.

          Though the grand mufti is an authoritative figure in Saudi Arabia, his pronouncements do not carry the force of law.

          It is a common practice for Muslims to seek personal religious guidance from learned scholars, but their advice is not considered binding.

          Musa Bin Thaily, president of the law committee at the Saudi Chess Association, confirmed on Twitter on Thursday that the fatwa had been issued, but said it had yet to have any legal effect.

          Finally, we do TV show views to lawful acts, on the contrary, some views are meant to advise on the personal levels.
          - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ch....yU8i8Dj7.dpuf
          Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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          • #6
            Re: Saudi religious leader's fatwa against chess

            Reply from the Saudi Chess Association http://www.fide.com/component/conten...sociation.html

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            • #7
              Re: Saudi religious leader's fatwa against chess

              Shave that Wahhabi beard and get a real job, asshole!

              Saudi cleric shows why it's so good that Canada sells billions in arms to the Kingdom.

              ... because chess is the Devil's work! I knew it!
              Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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              • #8
                Re: Saudi religious leader's fatwa against chess

                Seriously, the following author addresses the question ...

                Are Chess and Islam Incompatible?

                and concludes that the Saudi cleric is barking up the wrong tree.
                Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                • #9
                  Re: Saudi religious leader's fatwa against chess

                  Gee, 2 people disagreeing what their religion considers permissible. That's never happened before.

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