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    Hi guys

    Any idea what the salvation of the federal NDP might be? Is it the LEAP MANIFESTO?


    P.S.: Today Ottawa is the coldest capital city in the world, ahead of Moscow (which is at 5 degrees). Anyone who believes in Global warming should stand outside for 10 minutes. :p
    Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
    Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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    Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

    Ulaanbaatar (seems to be the current way of spelling it), Mongolia was -9 last night; +3 at noon (EDT). It's usually a good competitor with Ottawa for the tile of the world's coldest capital.

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      Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

      And check out how little snow is on the ground.

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        Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

        Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
        Hi guys

        Any idea what the salvation of the federal NDP might be? Is it the LEAP MANIFESTO?


        P.S.: Today Ottawa is the coldest capital city in the world, ahead of Moscow (which is at 5 degrees). Anyone who believes in Global warming should stand outside for 10 minutes. :p
        Hi Kevin: From an armchair quarterback (I did all my canvassing, scrutineering, knocking on doors, office work, phoning, pulling votes, sitting on a riding association executive committee once, a while ago now)

        The centre left in Canada has been co-opted by our friend Justin (I am a bit amazed.....his campaign offered deficits, but the rest was pretty centrist).....he's moved more to the left than in his campaign, IMHO (though for Liberals, it can't last, given who they are in general). For the NDP to try to outflank him from further on the left, with more radical policies, may lead to trouble with Canadian voters.....I'm not sure there is as large a revolutionary base here as the one Sanders is tapping into in the USA.

        If I am right on that, then the plan is to let Justin self-destruct,,,,,,,,and highlight it! Especially policy waffling, breaking campaign promises, decisions to the right...there will become a credibility problem for the Liberals, and they have to keep it all up for four more years.......and generally the NDP rates very high in polls re trust factor, being honest, doing what they say, etc.

        They will become the "better" left of centre option. The last election of Justin, over Thomas, will have been seen to be a mistake.

        OK everyone.......I've stuck my chin out.......take a swing at it!

        Bob A
        Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 4th April, 2016, 01:18 PM.

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          Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

          Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
          P.S.: Today Ottawa is the coldest capital city in the world, ahead of Moscow (which is at 5 degrees). Anyone who believes in Global warming should stand outside for 10 minutes. :p
          How many snow days did you have in Ottawa during the winter? Toronto had several, other days ground was without a snow. I can not complain much about one day of snow in April.

          And global means not a backyard LOL

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            Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

            Hi Egidijus

            I cannot find how many snow days for Ottawa this winter using a quick Google search, but here's a link to a story about our record snowfall day, fwiw:

            http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...y-plow-website
            Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
            Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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            • #7
              Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

              A CBC story today about calls for the federal NDP to embrace the LEAP MANIFESTO:

              http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-...tion-1.3519369
              Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
              Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

                Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                Hi Kevin: From an armchair quarterback (I did all my canvassing, scrutineering, knocking on doors, office work, phoning, pulling votes, sitting on a riding association executive committee once, a while ago now)

                The centre left in Canada has been co-opted by our friend Justin (I am a bit amazed.....his campaign offered deficits, but the rest was pretty centrist).....he's moved more to the left than in his campaign, IMHO (though for Liberals, it can't last, given who they are in general). For the NDP to try to outflank him from further on the left, with more radical policies, may lead to trouble with Canadian voters.....I'm not sure there is as large a revolutionary base here as the one Sanders is tapping into in the USA.

                If I am right on that, then the plan is to let Justin self-destruct,,,,,,,,and highlight it! Especially policy waffling, breaking campaign promises, decisions to the right...there will become a credibility problem for the Liberals, and they have to keep it all up for four more years.......and generally the NDP rates very high in polls re trust factor, being honest, doing what they say, etc.

                They will become the "better" left of centre option. The last election of Justin, over Thomas, will have been seen to be a mistake.

                OK everyone.......I've stuck my chin out.......take a swing at it!

                Bob A
                Hi Bob

                Justin Trudeau won a majority mostly because he is young and has a pretty face. People fall for that almost every time in an election. Besides that, he has some brains in that he rebuilt the party, though not enough smarts to realize what the costs of some of his left-wing policies like legalizing pot will be.

                IMHO, if the NDP hope to compete next election and don't care what the cost is to the country, they should dump Angry Tom for a prettier face, and adopt the leftist manifesto to outflank the Liberals on the left. Canadians mostly love socialism, though public health care is one of the few good things to ever come from it.

                When I predicted The Donald would be US President, I didn't imagine he'd alienate so many voters so unnecessarily. My fault for not following his career more closely. Now I don't think he has a chance, but if he does become President then the threat of the last days arriving willl surely be immediate. I now think Hillary may need to bow out due to scandal or health reasons, and Bernie will become Prez almost by default.
                Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                  a surface temperature that would melt lead

                  Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
                  Today Ottawa is the coldest capital city in the world, ahead of Moscow (which is at 5 degrees). Anyone who believes in Global warming should stand outside for 10 minutes. :p
                  lol. The weather is not the climate. That's worth looking up.

                  If you want an example of greenhouse effect run rampant, have a look at Venus. Boiling oceans, yellow skies, a choking carbon dioxide atmosphere, and a surface temperature that would melt lead.

                  I guess if you're really sick of the cold, then that might seem to be an improvement. But not for long.
                  Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                    Re: a surface temperature that would melt lead

                    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                    ...
                    If you want an example of greenhouse effect run rampant, have a look at Venus. Boiling oceans, yellow skies, a choking carbon dioxide atmosphere, and a surface temperature that would melt lead.

                    I guess if you're really sick of the cold, then that might seem to be an improvement. But not for long.
                    I'd settle for being in Florida, if it's fairly warm right now. Meanwhile, lots and lots of beautiful snowflakes to look at today outside of my window and down on the street.
                    Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                    Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                      Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

                      Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
                      Hi guys

                      Any idea what the salvation of the federal NDP might be? Is it the LEAP MANIFESTO?


                      P.S.: Today Ottawa is the coldest capital city in the world, ahead of Moscow (which is at 5 degrees). Anyone who believes in Global warming should stand outside for 10 minutes. :p
                      Hi Kevin: Here is some info: CBC - Proposed NDP resolutions reveal grassroots itching to shift to the left. (http://CBC.ca/1.3522012)

                      Bob A

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                        Re: Question for Bob A., Nigel H. or Bob G.

                        Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                        Hi Kevin: Here is some info: CBC - Proposed NDP resolutions reveal grassroots itching to shift to the left. (http://CBC.ca/1.3522012)

                        Bob A
                        I like the idea of free public dental care at least, if it really could be afforded by the country. Esecially after losing a number a teeth in recent times, possibly unnecessarily due to the high cost of specialist care.
                        Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                        Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                          Re: a surface temperature that would melt lead

                          Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
                          I'd settle for being in Florida, if it's fairly warm right now. Meanwhile, lots and lots of beautiful snowflakes to look at today outside of my window and down on the street.
                          Fwiw, yesterday's snowfall (15 cm) was a record for Ottawa for April 6. More snow on the way tomorrow.
                          Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                          Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                            Re: a surface temperature that would melt lead

                            News flash...

                            Leap Manifesto motion passes. Mulcair speaking, vote on leadership review to follow.

                            Interesting stuff for political junkies.

                            [edit: belated news flash: Mulcair receives only 48% support, leadership convention to be within 2 years.]



                            Btw, fwiw, I'm told another record Ottawa snowfall (for today's date in April) to follow tonight.
                            Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Monday, 11th April, 2016, 11:21 AM. Reason: Spelling
                            Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                            Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                              Re: a surface temperature that would melt lead

                              I'm not quite sure what to make of all the angst among the NDP ranks re: the discussion & passage of the radical environmentalist/socialist/communist Leap Maifesto to be now discussed as future party policy. Surely any jobs lost due to the shutdown of the oilsands & the forbiddence building future pipelines will be more than made up for by other jobs created in the brave new worker's paradise.
                              Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                              Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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