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Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
Hi Tony,
What are the rules of the team tournament?
1. Is there any requirement that the board must follow the strength of the players (CFC or Fide) i.e. Board 1 must be played by the strongest player and so on?
2. What if Board 1 and 3 wins and Board 2 and 4 lose, is it considered as a tie 2-2 ?
What are the prizes (cash or trophies)? Just curious!
Gary
Last edited by Gary Hua; Wednesday, 15th June, 2016, 08:02 PM.
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
There are now 10 teams!
KW Team Tournament 2016
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 Location: Kitchener City Hall, 200 King Street West, Kitchener, ON Sections: Open (Swiss) Teams: 4 boards per team with up to 2 alternates; average team rating to be determined by top 4 regular CFC ratings Time Control: 25 minutes + 10 second delay Round Times: 10:00am, 11:15am, 1:30pm, 2:45pm, 4:00pm Entry Fees: $40/team if team sheets submitted by 9:30am; $80 thereafter. Parking: Free parking at corner of Water Street and Charles Street. Questions? E-mail us at kwchessclub@gmail.com
Past Winners: Kitchener-Waterloo (2015), Milton Backward Pawns(2013, 2014), Knights of Chess (2012), Windsor (2011)
Pre-Registered
1. RoCa Backward Pawns ~2300
GM Gergely Szabo 2548 (FIDE)
IM Razvan Preotu 2607
Gordon Gooding 2147
Bob Gillanders 1818
2. The Future of Canadian Chess ~2250
Richard Chen
Nicholas Vettese
Eugene Hua
Adam Cormier
3. London Chess Club ~2100
Kevin Gibson
Tony Bao
Geoffrey Ruelland
Steve Demmery
4. Vitamin D ~2100
Karoly Szalay
Jude Aniunoh
Tony Li
Ralph Deline
Anton van Niekerk
5. Kitchener Waterloo Chess Club (Defending Champions) ~2000
Hans Jung
Avinaash Sundar
James Nah
Alfred
6. Kitchener Waterloo Floaters ~1900
Jesus Cuenca Gomez
7. Concordia Chess Club ~1800
8. Brantford A ~1800
9. Brantford B ~1600
10. Waterdown Chess Club ~1600
Gary Hua
Riley Brownsdon
Atharva Srinivas
Michelle Hua
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
KW Team Tournament 2016
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 Location: Kitchener City Hall, 200 King Street West, Kitchener, ON Sections: Open (Swiss) Teams: 4 boards per team with up to 2 alternates; average team rating to be determined by top 4 regular CFC ratings Time Control: 25 minutes + 10 second delay Round Times: 10:00am, 11:15am, 1:30pm, 2:45pm, 4:00pm Entry Fees: $40/team if team sheets submitted by 9:30am; $80 thereafter. Parking: Free parking at corner of Water Street and Charles Street. Questions? E-mail us at kwchessclub@gmail.com
Past Winners: Kitchener-Waterloo (2015), Milton Backward Pawns(2013, 2014), Knights of Chess (2012), Windsor (2011)
Pre-Registered
1. RoCa Backward Pawns ~2300
GM Gergely Szabo 2548 (FIDE)
IM Razvan Preotu 2607
Gordon Gooding 2147
Bob Gillanders 1818
2. The Future of Canadian Chess ~2250
Richard Chen
Nicholas Vettese
Eugene Hua
Adam Cormier
3. London Chess Club ~2100
Kevin Gibson
Tony Bao
Geoffrey Ruelland
Steve Demmery
4. Vitamin D ~2100
Karoly Szalay
Jude Aniunoh
Tony Li
Ralph Deline
Anton van Niekerk
5. Kitchener Waterloo Chess Club (Defending Champions) ~2000
Hans Jung
Avinaash Sundar
James Nah
Alfred
6. Kitchener Waterloo Floaters ~1900
Jesus Cuenca Gomez
7. Concordia Chess Club ~1800
8. Brantford A ~1800
Kari Nurmi
Lee Hendon
William Ratelband
Devendra Deshpande
9. Brantford B ~1600
Rob Gashgarian
Chris Osborne
Riley Derbecker and
Lukas Samwell
10. Waterdown Chess Club ~1600
Gary Hua
Riley Brownsdon
Atharva Srinivas
Michelle Hua
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
The team tournament is on Saturday! 10 teams pre-registered so far.
KW Team Tournament 2016
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 Location: Kitchener City Hall, 200 King Street West, Kitchener, ON Sections: Open (Swiss) Teams: 4 boards per team with up to 2 alternates; average team rating to be determined by top 4 regular CFC ratings Time Control: 25 minutes + 10 second delay Round Times: 10:00am, 11:15am, 1:30pm, 2:45pm, 4:00pm Entry Fees: $40/team if team sheets submitted by 9:30am; $80 thereafter. Parking: Free parking at corner of Water Street and Charles Street. Questions? E-mail us at kwchessclub@gmail.com
Past Winners: Kitchener-Waterloo (2015), Milton Backward Pawns(2013, 2014), Knights of Chess (2012), Windsor (2011)
Pre-Registered
1. RoCa Backward Pawns ~2300
GM Gergely Szabo 2548 (FIDE)
IM Razvan Preotu 2607
Gordon Gooding 2147
Bob Gillanders 1818
2. The Future of Canadian Chess ~2250
Richard Chen
Nicholas Vettese
Eugene Hua
Adam Cormier
3. London Chess Club ~2100
Kevin Gibson
Tony Bao
Geoffrey Ruelland
Steve Demmery
4. Vitamin D ~2100
Karoly Szalay
Jude Aniunoh
Tony Li
Ralph Deline
Anton van Niekerk
5. Kitchener Waterloo Chess Club (Defending Champions) ~2000
Hans Jung
Avinaash Sundar
James Nah
Alfred
6. Kitchener Waterloo Floaters ~1900
7. Concordia Chess Club ~1800
8. Brantford A ~1800
Kari Nurmi
Lee Hendon
William Ratelband
Devendra Deshpande
9. Brantford B ~1600
Rob Gashgarian
Chris Osborne
Riley Derbecker and
Lukas Samwell
10. Waterdown Chess Club ~1600
Gary Hua
Riley Brownsdon
Atharva Srinivas
Michelle Hua
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
An 11th team joins from Stratford!
KW Team Tournament 2016
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 Location: Kitchener City Hall, 200 King Street West, Kitchener, ON Sections: Open (Swiss) Teams: 4 boards per team with up to 2 alternates; average team rating to be determined by top 4 regular CFC ratings Time Control: 25 minutes + 10 second delay Round Times: 10:00am, 11:15am, 1:30pm, 2:45pm, 4:00pm Entry Fees: $40/team if team sheets submitted by 9:30am; $80 thereafter. Parking: Free parking at corner of Water Street and Charles Street. Questions? E-mail us at kwchessclub@gmail.com
Past Winners: Kitchener-Waterloo (2015), Milton Backward Pawns(2013, 2014), Knights of Chess (2012), Windsor (2011)
Pre-Registered
1. RoCa Backward Pawns ~2300
GM Gergely Szabo 2548 (FIDE)
IM Razvan Preotu 2607
Gordon Gooding 2147
Bob Gillanders 1818
2. The Future of Canadian Chess ~2250
Richard Chen
Nicholas Vettese
Eugene Hua
Adam Cormier
3. London Chess Club ~2100
Kevin Gibson
Tony Bao
Geoffrey Ruelland
Steve Demmery
4. Vitamin D ~2100
Karoly Szalay
Jude Aniunoh
Tony Li
Ralph Deline
Anton van Niekerk
5. Kitchener Waterloo Chess Club (Defending Champions) ~2000
Hans Jung
Avinaash Sundar
James Nah
Alfred
6. Kitchener Waterloo Floaters ~1900
7. Concordia Chess Club ~1800
8. Brantford A ~1800
Kari Nurmi
Lee Hendon
William Ratelband
Devendra Deshpande
9. Brantford B ~1600
Rob Gashgarian
Chris Osborne
Riley Derbecker and
Lukas Samwell
10. Waterdown Chess Club ~1600
Gary Hua
Riley Brownsdon
Atharva Srinivas
Michelle Hua
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
A second team from London makes it an even dozen!
KW Team Tournament 2016
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 Location: Kitchener City Hall, 200 King Street West, Kitchener, ON Sections: Open (Swiss) Teams: 4 boards per team with up to 2 alternates; average team rating to be determined by top 4 regular CFC ratings Time Control: 25 minutes + 10 second delay Round Times: 10:00am, 11:15am, 1:30pm, 2:45pm, 4:00pm Entry Fees: $40/team if team sheets submitted by 9:30am; $80 thereafter. Parking: Free parking at corner of Water Street and Charles Street. Questions? E-mail us at kwchessclub@gmail.com
Past Winners: Kitchener-Waterloo (2015), Milton Backward Pawns(2013, 2014), Knights of Chess (2012), Windsor (2011)
Pre-Registered
1. RoCa Backward Pawns ~2300
GM Gergely Szabo 2548 (FIDE)
IM Razvan Preotu 2607
Gordon Gooding 2147
Bob Gillanders 1818
2. The Future of Canadian Chess ~2250
Richard Chen
Nicholas Vettese
Eugene Hua
Adam Cormier
3. Kitchener Waterloo Chess Club (Defending Champions) ~2250
Karoly Szalay
Hans Jung
Avinaash Sundar
Jude Aniunoh
4. London Chess Club ~2100
Kevin Gibson
Tony Bao
Geoffrey Ruelland
Steve Demmery
5. Vitamin D ~2100
Tony Li
William Klarner
Ralph Deline
Anton van Niekerk
Alfred
6. Kitchener Waterloo Floaters ~1900
7. Concordia Chess Club ~1800
8. Brantford A ~1800
Kari Nurmi
Lee Hendon
William Ratelband
Devendra Deshpande
9. Carlson Clones ~1600
B. Morgan 1745
R.Glew 1722
F. Salerno 1336
D.Armstrong 1329
10. Brantford B ~1600
Rob Gashgarian
Chris Osborne
Riley Derbecker and
Lukas Samwell
11. Waterdown Chess Club ~1600
Gary Hua
Riley Brownsdon
Atharva Srinivas
Michelle Hua
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
Congratulations to the Future of Canadian Chess (Adam Cormier, Richard Chen, Eugene Hua, Nicholas Vetesse) who finished 1st with 4.5 match points and 17.5 out of 20 game points!
Tied for first but second on tiebreak is ROCA Backward Pawns (GM Gergely Szabo, IM Razvan Preotu, Gordon Gooding, Rene Preotu) finishing with with 4.5 match points and 14 out of 20 game points.
Outright third place went to my Vitamins team (myself, William Klarner, Ralph Deline, Anton van Niekerk) with 3.5 match points.
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
Now I think I've seen everything a tournament that takes in almost $500 dollars (12 teams x 40 = $480) and decides not to have any sort of prize fund. I'm pretty sure nearly if not all previous years had a prize fund with such a large turnout for this one this came as a dramatic shock.
I'm sure everyone who attended especially the winners would love to see a funds vs costs breakdown. From my knowledge the equipment + location are both free and I don't think the trophies make up the difference (considering mine broke within hours and not due to my frustration).
Despite this it was still a fun tournament and I got to play good chess and get another lesson from a GM, just have a prize fund next time or say in advance you won't.
Now I think I've seen everything a tournament that takes in almost $500 dollars (12 teams x 40 = $480) and decides not to have any sort of prize fund. I'm pretty sure nearly if not all previous years had a prize fund with such a large turnout for this one this came as a dramatic shock.
I'm sure everyone who attended especially the winners would love to see a funds vs costs breakdown. From my knowledge the equipment + location are both free and I don't think the trophies make up the difference (considering mine broke within hours and not due to my frustration).
Despite this it was still a fun tournament and I got to play good chess and get another lesson from a GM, just have a prize fund next time or say in advance you won't.
The tournament was well attended ( more than 12 teams ) and thanks to Brian Clark, the tournament was well organized. The only negative was the prize was only 4 trophies and no prize $$$ despite collecting more than $ 500. The payout was only 20% ( or less than that ) of the total money collected which will count the lowest payout tournament despite having the tournament hall free of charge. Why only this year no prize $$$ where the other year had and this year was well attended ?
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
Congratulation to the winners! Looks like they drew the match against RoCa (likely, lost on first 2 boards and won on the last 2) and collected 15.5/16 in 4 other matches - a great performance. While the average rating of 2 strongest teams was really close, usually team with stronger "tail" gets an advantage.
Mark and me were playing twice in this tournament. We won in 2012 with M.Ivanov (he won the critical game against M.Barron in 2Q against 1Q ending) and Z.Dukic. We got something like 200 CAD (50 CAD each). Sure, many players were ready to play for free in the team tournament. However, financial conditions (especially in case of deteriorating) should be announced well in advance.
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
Adam, Gary, Victor,
Off of memory, in the past the prizes were 160-200 dollars, which seemed very reasonable.
I was surprised there was no prize and will ask for a reason from the club executive on Tuesday. It is possible the club rented the equipment this time, or purchased new equipment recently (clocks definitely looked new).
I saw some cost breakdowns in the past where the equipment depreciation was clearly too low, so it might also be a case of poor costing in the past inflating expectations.
Off of memory, in the past the prizes were 160-200 dollars, which seemed very reasonable.
I was surprised there was no prize and will ask for a reason from the club executive on Tuesday. It is possible the club rented the equipment this time, or purchased new equipment recently (clocks definitely looked new).
I saw some cost breakdowns in the past where the equipment depreciation was clearly too low, so it might also be a case of poor costing in the past inflating expectations.
Tony,
Thanks for your reply. As much as I appreciated your reply, I think that is not a right way to punish this year's winner because of the organizer's wish to recover more cost this time or something to that effect. This will not sound right for next year's participants to join. This will not help in promoting team tournament next year indeed and I can understand Adam's frustration or other winner's as well. You don't give prizes one year and not in another year.....There must always be a consistency as an organizer. Just my view though....
Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25
This caught me by surprise when discussing with Brian after the last round and I dont think its right (lack of a prize fund) I'll definitely look into it.
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