Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

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  • #31
    Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

    Yes congratulaions to the Future of Canadian Chess (they well might be). Two kids, one teenager, and another who might still be a teenager (young adult). Its hard to overlook a 12 year old master on board 4.

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    • #32
      Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

      Originally posted by Gary Hua View Post
      Tony,

      Thanks for your reply. As much as I appreciated your reply, I think that is not a right way to punish this year's winner because of the organizer's wish to recover more cost this time or something to that effect. This will not sound right for next year's participants to join. This will not help in promoting team tournament next year indeed and I can understand Adam's frustration or other winner's as well. You don't give prizes one year and not in another year.....There must always be a consistency as an organizer. Just my view though....
      Several people have griped about the lack of a prize fund, and rightly so. I have read and seen the error of my ways.

      While I did direct the tournament, I did not organize it, and therefore was somewhat removed from the planning. When I saw that trophies were to be awarded, I somewhat automatically concluded that they were to be the prizes instead cash. This, in combination with the low entry fee, my bad memory about previous payouts and my intent to capture some of the entry fees to cover the cost of clocks and sets is what led me astray.

      Note the following things:

      • People do tend to greatly underestimate the costs of running tournaments. For instance, the cost of providing equipment (clocks and sets) is often overlooked. These costs are partially recovered by allocating some of the entry fees towards them. It takes several years for these costs to be recovered by chess clubs this way. By the time that these costs are recovered it's time to buy replacements so the process continues indefinitely.

      • In addition the entry fees were a bit lower than what people have stated here since some of the players were actually floaters who filled in as required to avoid giving people byes. Floaters do not pay entry fees.

      • The prizes to be awarded were not included in the advertising for this tournament. So, although technically we were in not required to provide cash prizes, precedent and expectations dictated otherwise. Victor is correct in stating that we should clearly advertise changes in prizes to be awarded. Expectations should match reality.


      Therefore, I have decided to match previous tournament payouts. So each person on the winning team, consisting of Adam Cormier, Richard Chen, Eugene Hua, Nicholas Vetesse will be awarded $50 each. This leaves little to the club for equipment cost recovery but so be it. I will send checks to each person once I get mailing addresses. Those of you going to the CYCC or Canadian Open can collect it as cash from me.
      Last edited by Brian Clarke; Wednesday, 29th June, 2016, 08:06 AM.

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      • #33
        Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

        Brian,

        I was going to discuss with you tomorrow... normally the tiebreak only determines the trophy and title, not the prizes...

        Hopefully whoever saw the previous post will appreciate that the prizes would be $25 each...

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        • #34
          Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

          Originally posted by Tony Li View Post
          Brian,

          I was going to discuss with you tomorrow... normally the tiebreak only determines the trophy and title, not the prizes...

          Hopefully whoever saw the previous post will appreciate that the prizes would be $25 each...
          You are right. I made a technical mistake this time. There were two teams that tied. So eight people get $25 each. That includes the four already mentioned (The Future of Canadian Chess) plus ROCA Backward Pawns (GM Gergely Szabo, IM Razvan Preotu, Gordon Gooding, Rene Preotu).

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          • #35
            Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

            Originally posted by Brian Clarke View Post
            You are right. I made a technical mistake this time. There were two teams that tied. So eight people get $25 each. That includes the four already mentioned (The Future of Canadian Chess) plus ROCA Backward Pawns (GM Gergely Szabo, IM Razvan Preotu, Gordon Gooding, Rene Preotu).
            That's great to hear, my mailing address is 5 Killarney Street, Brantford, ON, CAN, N3T 6L5
            University and Chess, a difficult mix.

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            • #36
              Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

              Thanks Brian / Hans and Tony for your decision. I am sure all the winners appreciate your gesture.

              Cheers !

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              • #37
                Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

                I commend you on your decision Brian. Keep up the good work!

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                • #38
                  Re: Kitchener Waterloo Team Active Saturday June 25

                  Great. Now, the KW Marathon in July pays 87.5% of entries as prizes.

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