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Appeal the way Anton was treated at a key moment just before one of the most important games of his life. This situation is just unbelievable and intolerable.
One has to wonder why FIDE keeps shooting itself in the head. Anton's situation fed the narrative that anything can happen in this tournament which builds the excitement and interest in chess. If the reports are correct and Anton doesn't reconsider we are probably going to lose another generational talent who seemed destined to become a supergrandmaster. This is a shame.
Hi Vlad,
It is my impression that the only things that get appeal are decisions.
The only decision taken at any point by anyone, was Kovalyov abandoning the tournament.
The way Kovalyov was treated was indeed unacceptable, but also irreversible.
Of course there should be letters of protest, and it's great to see CFC taking leadership on that.
I wrote a letter of protest to the Appeals Committee before I read Anton's account.
He should have been politely asked to upgrade his attire for the next round. I am blown away by Anton's account. Azmai's racial comments were inexcusable. We're not done with this.
Hi Hal,
Just to make sure that eveyone undesrstands what calling someone a "gypsy" means for eastern European culture:
Go to the start of the 3rd minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhENGl3XviM
Nakamura loses to Fedoseev and exits the tournament.
Fedoseev seems confident in his post-game interview. "For me it was not a surprise. This year I played fantastic chess"
His coach, Alexander Khalifman, earlier said that this game was sort of shaky and Fedoseev agrees. He had the advantage from the opening and then gave Hikaru some chances, which he missed in time pressure.
His most difficult match was the first round with Baccallao where he almost lost.
Giri had a chance to save his game with 39….Rexf3 but missed it. Then, slowly and slowly, Giri built his game up again and almost equalized. In time pressure Giri escaped, the game being a draw.
Svidler beats Onischuk and Alexander is out of the tournament. Wang Hao does the same with Kuzubov and eliminates him.
Since Magnus is gone, Peter will not have to play him (in the same bracket) and Peter says that he is not unhappy about that.
Ivanchuk beats Kramnik to a chorus of congratulations from the chessbomb kibitzers:
- h3 - make a cake of this position.
- woot great game by Chucky
- Ivanchuk is immortal
- wow, what an upset!
- 3rd round, the round of upsets ... hope it's not mvl's turn now
- Who is this young stallion defeating Kramnik? He seems promising
- checkers has helped Chucky's chess
- Hollywood would love to make a movie about the new world champion Ivanchuk.
- Today Ivanchuk played like a world champion. What happens next is another story.
Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10
Kramnik, Vladimir – Ivanchuk, Vassily
B12 Caro-Kann, Exchange, Rubinstein variation
1. Magnus Carlsen
2. Alexander Onischuk
3. Vladimir Kramnik
4. Vladislav Artemiev
5. Francisco Vallejo Pons
6. Hikaru Nakamura
7. Anton Kovalyov
8. Yuriy Kuzubov
Assuming all that's been published is true...
Appeal what exactly?
Appeal the way Anton was treated at a key moment just before one of the most important games of his life. This situation is just unbelievable and intolerable.
One has to wonder why FIDE keeps shooting itself in the head. Anton's situation fed the narrative that anything can happen in this tournament which builds the excitement and interest in chess. If the reports are correct and Anton doesn't reconsider we are probably going to lose another generational talent who seemed destined to become a supergrandmaster. This is a shame.
Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 12:01 PM.
Well, if it's gonna be like that, don't expect any sponsor's money...
That's a serious problem with top level chess. The GMs all think the world owes them a living.
Mathieu, you are missing the point. I, too, would welcome a sartorial upgrade among chessplayers, particularly titled players and agree that it would help with sponsors. That is not the issue. While FIDE has been waffling on some form of dress code, as of this moment, there is nothing in the proposed overall code, nor in the terms of the player contract, that would preclude the wearing of long shorts as Anton had done in four previous games without issue or incident. If the chief arbiter took it on himself to reinterpret the standard, the appropriate course, as he has conceded, would have been to warn the player to dress up in future...and then get on with the game.
The issue is the behaviour of the notorious Zurabi, a Kirsan protege, who serves as chief organizer (and, incredibly, chair of the appeals committee) in haranguing and threatening a player 10 minutes before a round in the most insulting language. This is completely unacceptable and forms the basis of the protests by the CFC and by the Association of Chess Professionals.
Last edited by Gordon Ritchie; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 08:25 PM.
The playing hall, which was once full of tables and players now has just a few scattered around.
Ian Rogers had this to say a few days ago:
Sitting in the dining room at a Chess World Cup after a round has concluded is a strange experience. Half the people in the room will be competing the next day while the other half (and their seconds) will be going home.
The scene after round one of the 2017 Tbilisi World Cup at the Hualing Preference Hotel restaurant was even more surreal.
Hikaru Nakamura quietly chats with his second Kris Littlejohn, while Wesley So is involved in more animated conversation with his former compatriot, Texas-based Julio Sadorra, and 16-year-Australian Anton Smirnov – the latter two both leaving for their respective homes at 3am that night. Levon Aronian, pours himself some tea, dressed as if he had just emerged from the gym, and returns to his table to commiserate with fellow Armenian Hrant Melkumyan, who had just lost an extended rapid playoff match. It was unclear whether Melkumyan would stay around in Tbilisi to help Aronian or take the late night train from Georgia to Armenia’s capital Yerevan.
Then a familiar tune is heard on the restaurant’s background music; Ray Charles singing ‘Georgia on my Mind’ – weirdly appropriate, both in wistfulness and geographical nomenclature.
Grandmasters – unlike, say, tennis professionals – are not used to the ruthlessness and sadness of knock-out tournaments. It is often said of the World Cup, with some truth, that only one player finishes the event fully satisfied, while there are 127 losers.
Back to the present. After three hours there are two decisive games. Two young guns have won – Daniil Dubov and Maxim Matlakov. Dubov loves to talk and gives a great interview. It is said that he is the heir apparent to Svidler as a commentator. Daniil is going to play the winner of the match between Aronian and Matlakov. He is great friends with Matlakov and they actually talked about meeting each other in Round Four of the World Cup a month ago in St. Petersburg.
I find it strange to fly in a plane wearing shorts and not to have backup pants in case of a spill. But he was perhaps thinking it will only be a couple of days, then back to school.
The main problem was that he prepared for his game with the wrong colour. Pretty stressful just finding that out then being yelled at.
Couldn't he have a second? Could Sambuev have stayed and helped, for a small portion of the $16,000+ prize money?
This isn’t meant in any way to diminish the seriousness of the controversy between Kovalyov and FIDE regarding a Dress Code.
But it has happened before at the Subotica Interzonal 1987. Ribli protested about Short’s shorts and Daniel King, as his second, negotiated compromise. See NIC 1987/7
From that issue:
Round 10
Friday 3rd July
Short’s shorts!
I think it was after the Rodriguez game that the controversy broke about Nigel Short’s attire, but first a brief summary of the round:
Smyslov crushed Ernst unmercifully. Tal and Ribli didn’t generate much heat. The game of the day was definitely Hamed-Short. Nigel disdained any equalizing lines after the opening and suddenly realized that his position was so bad that it was already too late even to offer a draw. The pressure mounted and it looked as tough Hammad would win a famous victory when suddenly he allowed Black one threat, which won a whole rook!
Back from the inelegance of chess in a qualifying event, to the splendor of Nigel’s legs. He had worn some rather silly shorts when playing Amador Rodriguez – after all the weather was extremely hot and sticky. This item of clothing has been characterized by a nameless Englishman as being ‘appropriate to an old fashioned bedroom farce!’ One should add for the sake of objectivity however that Lev Alburt’s shorts, which, I hasten to add, he certainly didn’t dream of wearing at the Tournament Hall were definitely in the same league though perhaps of a somewhat different genre. Be that as it may, Short had actually played, and won a fine game of chess in the offending item of clothing. Zoltan Ribli (who as previously mentioned was seriously disadvantaged by Kavalek’s withdrawl) observed this and decided not at all unreasonably, that he would be put off if Nigel played in shorts against him. Ribli therefore complained to the admirable Chief Arbiter Milos Petronic. I haven’t mentioned him previously which I think is very much a measure of what a good arbiter he is. Perhaps ‘Arbiters should be seen and not heard’? – readers of New in Chess are invited to comment on this possibly fallacious aphorism. Anyway rather than making a great fuss, Mr. Petronic, who incidentally is married to the Hungarian IWGM Veroci, very quietly informed me of the problem. I told Will Watson my second, we had a chuckle, informed Dan King and he very gently broke the news to Nigel who more or less cracked up (i.e. laughed – this doesn’t mean became distrait).
At lunch time Dan went and talked to the arbiter and it was agreed that there wasn’t a problem. Nigel could carry on wearing his somewhat ludicrous shorts against other opponents but definitely not against Ribli. When we told this story to the sadly now departed BCF secretary, Graham Lee, he immediately arranged that it be disseminated with Godspeed to the media and a fairly objective report appeared on the front page of The Independent.
Originally posted by Laurentiu GrigorescuView Post
Does CFC - and chess community - agrees with that "I do not care" dress style that Anton displayed in this tournament? Do sponsors and organizers at large agree to have players coming into (big) tournaments dressed like rafters? Should the arbiters, venue staff, spectators be shown a minimum of respect for their time and efforts?
I believe that Anton's dress style was not too different then many of the other participants in the playing hall including Zurab.
While I think that his judgement to leave the World Cup was not a good one and he also should be dressed more formally, I am on Anton's side with his treatment. It reminds me a toilet scandal between Kramnik and Topalov in Elista. While Kramnik lost a point, he won the match. I would like to see Anton playing in the tournament to the end.
While I am puzzled with lack of pants for intercontinental travel and confusion about white or black color for Round 3, it seems to be an indication of lack of motivation for the tournament. Based on Anton's interviews, he seems to be more focusing on his university program rather on chess at the moment, and he cannot be blamed for that due to his priorities.
I am pleased with Canada-FIDE rep's reaction in a quick manner, regardless of the result. It's not a bad idea to publish this letter or protest somehow. While Anton has no grounds for personal appeal, details of CFC's reaction would be interesting to the public.
Again, what is there to appeal?
I am under the impression that appeals are made against arbiters, for questionable decisions, with the organizing committee.
How do you appeal against an organizer? With who? And how about when the organizer is a FIDE VP, or FIDE itself?
As I understand the arbiter mentioned about the dress code, and then a discussion turned to what color Anton shall play. Nothing extraordinary. As for the color - he would have started the match with Black the third time, though it looks to me that the fate when you beat Anand :)
However, the action (words) by the organizer according to Anton was below any norms. This should go directly to the FIDE Ethics Committee and analyzed through Code of Ethics.
As for the dress code - looks that it is not clear what that means. Looking at pictures of the third day - you can see anything just Anton's shorts are missing.
I believe (strongly) that there are three issues here: 1. the spirit of the law; 2. the letter of the law; 3. the application of the law
While the no.3 is what CFC may protest to FIDE, and the no.2 is unclear (general rule, World Cup rule, Tbilisi rule), the no. 1 is the root of the problem as I see it.
The spirit of the law (and the common sense in any society) is to dress appropriate for the occasion, showing respect to the involved parties, especially when you play under a flag. Does CFC - and chess community - agrees with that "I do not care" dress style that Anton displayed in this tournament? Do sponsors and organizers at large agree to have players coming into (big) tournaments dressed like rafters? Should the arbiters, venue staff, spectators be shown a minimum of respect for their time and efforts?
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