The Chess World Cup 2017

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    One guy managed to bring some money into chess, and he dressed up, all the time.

    Seriously. Dress up or go home. The sponsors won't pay for a guy wearing shorts. It's so elementary I can't believe I have to explain it. Forget about the rest of the show. If The show is a guy wearing shorts.... nothing to sell here...
    Fischer was a product of heightened tension. Tension between his country The Free World and the entire USSR world of communism! Before that he was the youngest GM of his time! Crushing the US Nationals! And too that a attitude problem!

    That was the setting. Of course he demanded money ... you would too (I hope). He was the brilliant chess prodigy who could deliver a Floyd Mayweather KO to communism ... and he did!

    Who wouldn't throw money at that???

    As for Anton dressing within FIDE's own dress code ... wearing sneakers, Bermuda shorts and t-shirt ... brand the T-shirt, brand the shorts too!!! This guy just took out Anand!
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Monday, 11th September, 2017, 12:43 AM.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    If The show is a guy wearing shorts.... nothing to sell here...
    The best paid sports are played in shorts, and they are much shorter than Anton's. If you wanna enforce a dress-code, write properly what that means. Otherwise it becomes shorts versus jeans.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    That's not why ... believe me I know.

    No matter how a golfer is presented, if you had to sit in front of a screen for four hours watching a golfer walk between shots ... there would be not much money in golf either.

    Saint Louis Rapid & Blitz is on the right track. Just show the moves, some tension, little bit of this and a little bit of that, overlay awesome commentary ... $$$! They had 1 million viewers online for the final round. That's a lot of exposure for product & brand placement.

    And perhaps in a few years when the viewer data has been proven consistent ... pay per view $5.00 per viewer for the whole event ... and we're now in the millions of $$$!
    One guy managed to bring some money into chess, and he dressed up, all the time.

    Seriously. Dress up or go home. The sponsors won't pay for a guy wearing shorts. It's so elementary I can't believe I have to explain it. Forget about the rest of the show. If The show is a guy wearing shorts.... nothing to sell here...
    Last edited by Mathieu Cloutier; Monday, 11th September, 2017, 12:27 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    And that's why there's not much money into chess...

    Roger Federer shows up for a tournament with a mustard stain on his perfect white shirt and it's THE story for the whole week.

    Dress up or go home.
    That's not why ... believe me I know.

    No matter how a golfer is presented, if you had to sit in front of a screen for four hours watching a golfer walk between shots ... there would be not much money in golf either.

    Saint Louis Rapid & Blitz is on the right track. Just show the moves, some tension, little bit of this and a little bit of that, overlay awesome commentary ... $$$! They had 1 million viewers online for the final round. That's a lot of exposure for product & brand placement.

    And perhaps in a few years when the viewer data has been proven consistent ... pay per view $5.00 per viewer for the whole event ... and we're now in the millions of $$$!
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Monday, 11th September, 2017, 12:18 AM.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    And again, I want to emphasize my point:

    There's nothing wrong with being a gipsy. A gipsy is a lawless travelling artist who wants to do things his own way. Basically our definition of a modern GM. Nothing wrong with that.

    You want to play an 18 moves draw with your shorts on? Fine. Just don't expect any money to be pouring on you...
    Last edited by Mathieu Cloutier; Monday, 11th September, 2017, 12:13 AM.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    FIDE DRESS CODE POLICY: HELP CHESS BY WEARING PROPER ATTIRE

    Regulations

    3a The following is acceptable for men players, captains, head of delegation.

    Suits, ties, dressy pants, trousers, jeans, long-sleeve or shirt-sleeve dress shirt, dress shirt, alternatively T-shirts or polo, dress shoes, loafers or dressy slip-ons, socks, shoes or sneakers, sport coat, blazer, Bermuda shorts, turtleneck, jacket, vest or sweater. Team uniforms and national costumes clothing.

    FIDE >>> https://www.fide.com/component/conte...de-policy.html

    Anton >>> http://en.chessbase.com/thumb/67940

    ***

    Unless there's a more recent FIDE Dress Code Regulation ... Fischer would of rocked Bermuda shorts too!

    We done here???

    Or, should Anton just go get a good lawyer?
    And that's why there's not much money into chess...

    Roger Federer shows up for a tournament with a mustard stain on his perfect white shirt and it's THE story for the whole week.

    Dress up or go home.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    And just to be clear:

    It might sound rude, but being called a gipsy for wearing shorts at the Chess World Cup is just what it is.

    You want to be a gipsy? Fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lawless travelling artist who does things his own way. But either one of two things will happen:

    1-More likely, you're gonna be treated and paid like a gipsy: not much.

    2-Less likely, you become one of the very best gipsies in the world at what you're doing and your physical appearence doesn't matter anymore (i.e. Ivanchuck).

    FIDE DRESS CODE POLICY: HELP CHESS BY WEARING PROPER ATTIRE

    Regulations

    3a The following is acceptable for men players, captains, head of delegation.

    Suits, ties, dressy pants, trousers, jeans, long-sleeve or shirt-sleeve dress shirt, dress shirt, alternatively T-shirts or polo, dress shoes, loafers or dressy slip-ons, socks, shoes or sneakers, sport coat, blazer, Bermuda shorts, turtleneck, jacket, vest or sweater. Team uniforms and national costumes clothing.

    FIDE >>> https://www.fide.com/component/conte...de-policy.html

    Anton >>> http://en.chessbase.com/thumb/67940

    ***

    Unless there's a more recent FIDE Dress Code Regulation ... Fischer would of rocked Bermuda shorts too!

    We done here???

    Or, should Anton just go get a good lawyer?
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 11:55 PM.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    And just to be clear:

    It might sound rude, but being called a gipsy for wearing shorts at the Chess World Cup is just what it is.

    You want to be a gipsy? Fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lawless travelling artist who does things his own way. But either one of two things will happen:

    1-More likely, you're gonna be treated and paid like a gipsy: not much.

    2-Less likely, you become one of the very best gipsies in the world at what you're doing and your physical appearence doesn't matter anymore (i.e. Ivanchuck).
    Last edited by Mathieu Cloutier; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 10:41 PM.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Originally posted by Nathan Zeap View Post
    if you were allowed to wear shorts in rounds 1 and 2 and all of a sudden called a gypsy in round 3 and forced to change to pants minutes before the game starts...I don't know man.. these arbiters are either a bunch of dorks who have no clue as to how rules work or are gang buddies of Anand, wanting to get back at Anton, pissed that our boy trashed him in round 2.
    Anton Kovalyov has been playing chess for more than 12 years and he's got 245 games registered on chessgames.com. That's less than 20 games a year. Then you ask him to play a couple of very important games. 2 of them against a former world champion. No less. And he's paid upwards of 10k for it. Result? He doesn't even bother to wear pants...

    And then you wonder why the sponsors don't want to pour money into chess tournaments.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    Top level chess in Canada has probably had a setback whose effects will certainly be long lasting and you want to side with the Disney villain in this scenario.
    Nope. I want to side with the good guy. But I also understand that the good guy will have more of a point if he wears pants...

    Bobby Fischer understood that. Dress up, show up at the board and behave. If anything bothers you, you can complain before or after the game. But if you show up 5 min. before game time wearing shorts... don't expect to be treated like a pro.

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  • Nathan Zeap
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    if you were allowed to wear shorts in rounds 1 and 2 and all of a sudden called a gypsy in round 3 and forced to change to pants minutes before the game starts...I don't know man.. these arbiters are either a bunch of dorks who have no clue as to how rules work or are gang buddies of Anand, wanting to get back at Anton, pissed that our boy trashed him in round 2.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    The pattern I see is a guy not dressed properly for the event he's playing in.

    You receive 10k to play 4 games of chess, the least you can do is to wear some pants.
    Top level chess in Canada has probably had a setback whose effects will certainly be long lasting and you want to side with the Disney villain in this scenario.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Rd. 1, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.
    Rd. 2, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.

    See a pattern here, Mathieu?
    The pattern I see is a guy not dressed properly for the event he's playing in.

    You receive 10k to play 4 games of chess, the least you can do is to wear some pants.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    Being a professional GM now requires 3 very important things:

    1-Being good at chess
    2-Playing some actual chess (not the same as #1)
    3-Putting on some pants

    If your career is in jeopardy because of #3, maybe you should reconsider...
    Rd. 1, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.
    Rd. 2, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.

    See a pattern here, Mathieu?

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

    Being a professional GM now requires 3 very important things:

    1-Being good at chess
    2-Playing some actual chess (not the same as #1)
    3-Putting on some pants

    If your career is in jeopardy because of #3, maybe you should reconsider...

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