Nigel Short Appointed FIDE Vice President

[Ed Seedhouse]

Polygraphs are not admissible as evidence precisely because they are not scientifically based. If you can control your physiology which most people can do with training you can defeat a polygraph.

Once again Vlad contradicts himself in a single sentence.

Polygraphs are of course junk science, but no amount of "training" will enable you to "fool" one since their results have no valid evidentiary status. In essence polygraphs are *always* fooled, and "training" has nothing to do with it.

[Vlad Drkulec]

I decline to argue with Ed Seedhouse because of the well-known adage that when you argue with an idiot, there are two idiots arguing.

Ditto for Bonham.

[Ed Seedhouse]

I decline to argue with Ed Seedhouse because of the well-known adage that when you argue with an idiot, there are two idiots arguing.

You might try originality in your concession of defeat, Vlad. No, what am I thinking? There is no originality in you.

[Paul Bonham]

....The most famous case was KGB mole Aldrich Ames who consistently defeated polygraph tests administered by the CIA. You really don't know what you are talking about here.

"Polygraphy has been faulted for failing to trap known spies such as double-agent Aldrich Ames, who passed two polygraph tests while spying for the Soviet Union.^[70][94]However Ames did fail several tests while at the CIA that were never acted on.<sup>[95]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph</sup>

Nice try! I do admit to leaving out one word in my comment: there is no scientific evidence that anyone can consistently defeat a polygraph test.

Yes, despite some rogue elements precipitating the 2008 finanicial crisis , this group of money managers including Rex Sinquefield navigated these treacherous waters very well and prospered. Here in New York a famous trader named John Paulson that lives across the street from me made enormous profits betting against what a group of idiotic traders at AIG et al were doing in 2008. Why would I trust someone like you who's financial track record is non existent , you have no background educational or otherwise in finance or the economy and yet you are arrogant enough to think that you are smarter then the entire street and the scores of public servants involved in the economic decisions for this country.... that my friend is the real joke.
Your analysis of the economy is pathetically inadequate and wreaks of no education in this area. Just like in rapidly growing companies in a rapidly growing economy debt will increase, that is why the more important indicator is the debt to GDP ratio. The GDP is growing rapidly that is indicative of the desired lowering of this ratio. That is why we are not seeing anything even close to runaway inflation and very modest interest rate increases being used as a inflationary counter measure.
I hope the Dems never take control of the house and attempt to undo all the great work done to make the economy prosper by so many that has been accomplished in the last few years.

I'm not asking you to trust me or listen to me at all. I simply pointed out that the very thing I predicted 2 years ago is now happening: the result of "America First" policies would be much higher inflation. This is still in process and the trend is accelerating.

The U.S. economy is prospering in the sense that most people who want a job can find one. The U.S. economy is NOT prospering in that growing numbers of people cannot even afford a roof over their head, unless you count highway overpasses as a roof over one's head.

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[Paul Bonham]

You might try originality in your concession of defeat, Vlad. No, what am I thinking? There is no originality in you.

Vlad's practice of calling others idiots and using that as justification for not debating with them is like a neighborhood bully who picks on little kids and when a bigger kid comes for him, he hides in the bushes and later brags about not engaging in violent behavior.

There's a word for it: COWARDICE.

[Fred Harvey]

Oh dear! And there we thought that with the transfer of ownership, this site was going to be cleaned up. And here we still have the kindergarden arguments...sorry to interrupt....

[Sid Belzberg]

Polygraphy has been faulted for failing to trap known spies such as double-agent Aldrich Ames, who passed two polygraph tests while spying for the Soviet Union.^[70][94]However Ames did fail several tests while at the CIA that were never acted on.<sup>[95]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph</sup>

Nice try! I do admit to leaving out one word in my comment: there is no scientific evidence that anyone can consistently defeat a polygraph test.

Thank you for providing a reference. Despite your pronouncements this provides evidence that state sponsored programs to train people how to defeat polygraph tests have been going on for many years.

Therefore Ford's ex byfriend's testimony that she was involved in showing someone how to defeat a polygraph is not at all far fetched given that her field is psychology.

The U.S. economy is prospering in the sense that most people who want a job can find one.

Yes, and as bad as the homeless crisis is it would likely have been far worst under Hillary as her economic platform would have had even less money in a stagnant economy to help those that can't help themselves. As you pointed out under Trump at least those that can help themselves can now do so. Your point about inflation is so far utterly irrelevant.

[Paul Bonham]

Therefore Ford's ex byfriend's testimony that she was involved in showing someone how to defeat a polygraph is not at all far fetched ...

"not at all far fetched" you say...... was it far fetched that Kavanaugh did get drunk in 1982 and sexually assault Dr. Ford?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Yes, and as bad as the homeless crisis is it would likely have been far worst under Hillary as her economic platform would have had even less money in a stagnant economy to help those that can't help themselves. As you pointed out under Trump at least those that can help themselves can now do so. Your point about inflation is so far utterly irrelevant.

You complain that if the economy was stagnant I would be blaming Trump.... then you say that if Hillary had won the economy would be stagnant.... I think this is called a double standard.

Accelerating inflation is not irrelevant. One reason, besides the U.S. $21 trillion debt -- which Trump complained about during his campaign and then passed tax cuts that will GROW it, which as I said earlier is his typical m.o. -- is the student debt problem and the auto loan problem. Both of these pools of debt have risen dramatically since the 2008 recession. Rising rates make these debt pools more dangerous in terms of the overall economy. The actions Trump is taking, including trade actions against China and Europe (which by the way goes against decades of GOP policy, yet now the GOP is totally behind Trump, bringing to mind the term "herd instinct") is going to recklessly accelerate the inflationary trends that are already arising just from a hot economy.

I saw an interview of a Republican congressman, don't remember who, and he was asked about how the GOP is now viewing Trumps' trade actions. What this idiot said was that instead of the GOP resisting Trump on this, they should all get behind him "so as to very quickly win the trade war" and bring all the benefits of that victory to the U.S.

There is a whole lot of presumption behind that view. It presumes that China, Europe et al are just going to lay down and surrender. But so far that is the opposite of what is happening. The game of chicken will go on. We can only hope a Democrat-controlled Congress impeaches Trump just to end this madness. On the other hand, it would be good to let this go on to its natural conclusion just to teach future generations what NOT to do in international trade.

I'm really astonished with you, Sid, that you have bought into this revival of nationalism, since the painful lessons from WWII are something you should be very sensitive to.

[Sid Belzberg]

since the painful lessons from WWII are something you should be very sensitive to.

I previously requested that you refrain from finding ways to "Segway" into the subject of my ethnic heritage practically every time you post. WTF is wrong with you, you creep?? Bye

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[Ken Craft]

What in blue blazes do the last two pages have to do with Nigel Short?

[Sid Belzberg]

What in blue blazes do the last two pages have to do with Nigel Short?

Nothing at all, that is the result of what you get with the likes of Nigel Hanrahan polluting practically every thread with his politics.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Lets watch our language, as there are kids and their parents reading...

Thank you, Sid, for the slight adjustment.

[Ed Seedhouse]

Despite your pronouncements this provides evidence that state sponsored programs to train people how to defeat polygraph tests have been going on for many years.

There are always the con men willing to separate the gulls from their money. What there isn't is any evidence that any of this "training" has any real effect.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Vlad's practice of calling others idiots

If the shoe fits,...

and using that as justification for not debating with them is like a neighborhood bully who picks on little kids and when a bigger kid comes for him, he hides in the bushes and later brags about not engaging in violent behavior.

There's a word for it: COWARDICE.

As Miyamoto Musashi says, "Do nothing which is of no use."

As Nietzsche says, "Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."

It is not cowardice to decline to slaughter the feeble or the weak. Don't you have a new chess variant federation to organize or has that fallen off your "to do" list?

[Paul Bonham]

I previously requested that you refrain from finding ways to "Segway" into the subject of my ethnic heritage practically every time you post. WTF is wrong with you, you creep?? Bye

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You "Segway" (sic) into it many times yourself, every time you bring up Israel as if we all care more about that nation than we do about our own.

As far as bringing up what nationalism did to the Jews in WWII, it is very relevant since that very nationalism (minus the military component) is being trumpeted by Trump like no one has done since WWII. And in support of his nationalism, he and the Repugs are all working to send as many visible minorities as they can out of the country, on the ridiculous notion that they are "taking away" jobs from Americans. The truth is, they do the jobs Americans won't do such as picking agricultural crops.

Your reaction only shows how badly you take losing a debate, because it is quite obvious that I didn't say anything negative against your ethnic heritage and you don't set the rules about whether such ethnic heritage can be mentioned at all. I mention it because it's relevant, showing that you are one of those who are doomed to repeat history, having learned nothing from it.

Let's see, yesterday you wrote about how great your money managers are and also wrote that "inflation is irrelevant" which I suppose those experts are telling you. Today the Dow drops over 800 points on what? Interest rate worries, that are tied to inflation! So yeah, I can see how embarrassed you must be feeling right now, and you use the scapegoat of me mentioning the nationalism that led to WWII.

Get a backbone and some common sense. The sooner you turn against Trump and his policies, the better it will be for you.