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  • Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post

    Agreed. God Bless America, the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    I really don't think many people get what is going on in America. The most-free democracy in the world is also the country worst hit by coronavirus. Is anyone connecting the dots? Americans cherish their freedom and will bring out guns to protect it, but that very freedom is causing them to do the things that shouldn't be done in a pandemic: social gatherings. not wearing masks, reopening too soon. China, on the other hand, has brought the virus under control, amazing considering the much higher density of their population.

    In a pandemic-free world, capitalism with all of its faults beats communism with all of its faults. But in a world of pandemic, it appears the two systems switch places, because freedom is exactly what is NOT required during a pandemic, and the insistence on individual and corporate freedoms seems to dramatically worsen the effects of the pandemic.

    Right now we are in a buffer zone, where things are bad, but not ridiculously bad, because the government is printing money. But there is something knows as the "cobra effedt'. It goes like this: there is an epidemic of cobras, and a government-sponsored bounty is placed on dead cobras. At first it works, that is where we are now. The government is paying extra benefits to the epidemic of unemployed workers.

    But as time goes on, people breed and then kill cobras to cash in. Once the government realizes this, they cancel the bounty. The breeders then release their inventories or cobras into the wild, and now there are more cobras than ever. That is where we are headed: the government will soon claim that payments to unemployed workers keep them from even looking for work and will stop paying them extra unemployment benefits. All those unemployed workers then stop paying rent and going out to restaurants, and the economy slides much deeper into recession / depression than it would have if the government had never paid out extra benefits in the first place.

    This winter will be the worst in living memory in the USA. States and municipalities are going to go broke, laying off hundreds of thousands of workers, stopping almost all services. The car industry will collapse, just as it should have back in 2009. The housing market will collapse. Homelessness will explode in all major cities, more protests and riots will then happen.

    Whether or not Trump cancels the 2020 election and remains in office after January, there is really nothing he or Biden will be able to do to stop this. One last surge of government spending will likely happen, But the snowball effect will be too far advanced by then. And if by chance there is a second wave of the virus, it is game over for America. That is when some kind of war, with Iran or China, will become very likely.

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    • Freedom means freedom to die. We can chose drugs, junk food, guns, extreme sports, or not getting vaccinated. But it's a balancing act when one's freedom kills another, removing their choice. We make societal agreements like keeping cars off of sidewalks, not knifing people in a steak house, not smoking in a plane, or wearing seat belts. But apparently wearing a mask and standing six feet apart is going too far. Give me liberty and death of my elders by Covid-19.

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      • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
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        Whether or not Trump cancels the 2020 election and remains in office after January, there is really nothing he or Biden will be able to do to stop this. One last surge of government spending will likely happen, But the snowball effect will be too far advanced by then. And if by chance there is a second wave of the virus, it is game over for America. That is when some kind of war, with Iran or China, will become very likely.
        Thanks. Your cheerful optimism is buoying me up.
        "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
        "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
        "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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        • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
          That is when some kind of war, with Iran or China, will become very likely.
          It has been obvious for a long time that Trump plans war with China.

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          • [QUOTE=Pargat Perrer;n207126]

            "Right now we are in a buffer zone, where things are bad, but not ridiculously bad, because the government is printing money."



            STAGFLATION...the like of which we have never seen before....is coming...

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            • So what's on your COVID-19 playlist?

              Here's a few of mine...

              Queen ...when in Montreal:

              Another One Bites The Dust
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIbCvfkO3E

              We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAz84ZV7xF0

              Somebody To Love
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA2IRoPFIn0

              :))))


              Play safe.

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              Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 23rd July, 2020, 01:23 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

                Tulsi Gabbard was my choice.


                She was a much better choice.

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                • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer; the reincarnation of Paul Bonham 207126


                  I really don't think many people get what is going on in America. The most-free democracy in the world is also the country worst hit by coronavirus. Is anyone connecting the dots? Americans cherish their freedom and will bring out guns to protect it, but that very freedom is causing them to do the things that shouldn't be done in a pandemic: social gatherings. not wearing masks, reopening too soon. China, on the other hand, has brought the virus under control, amazing considering the much higher density of their population.

                  In a pandemic-free world, capitalism with all of its faults beats communism with all of its faults. But in a world of pandemic, it appears the two systems switch places, because freedom is exactly what is NOT required during a pandemic, and the insistence on individual and corporate freedoms seems to dramatically worsen the effects of the pandemic.

                  Right now we are in a buffer zone, where things are bad, but not ridiculously bad, because the government is printing money. But there is something knows as the "cobra effedt'. It goes like this: there is an epidemic of cobras, and a government-sponsored bounty is placed on dead cobras. At first it works, that is where we are now. The government is paying extra benefits to the epidemic of unemployed workers.

                  But as time goes on, people breed and then kill cobras to cash in. Once the government realizes this, they cancel the bounty. The breeders then release their inventories or cobras into the wild, and now there are more cobras than ever. That is where we are headed: the government will soon claim that payments to unemployed workers keep them from even looking for work and will stop paying them extra unemployment benefits. All those unemployed workers then stop paying rent and going out to restaurants, and the economy slides much deeper into recession / depression than it would have if the government had never paid out extra benefits in the first place.

                  This winter will be the worst in living memory in the USA. States and municipalities are going to go broke, laying off hundreds of thousands of workers, stopping almost all services. The car industry will collapse, just as it should have back in 2009. The housing market will collapse. Homelessness will explode in all major cities, more protests and riots will then happen.

                  Whether or not Trump cancels the 2020 election and remains in office after January, there is really nothing he or Biden will be able to do to stop this. One last surge of government spending will likely happen, But the snowball effect will be too far advanced by then. And if by chance there is a second wave of the virus, it is game over for America. That is when some kind of war, with Iran or China, will become very likely.
                  The death rate in large Democrat states like New York and New Jersey is ten times the death rate in large Republican states like Florida and Texas. Republicans have an advantage because they don't like to murder old people like Cuomo did in New York by sending infected people into nursing homes. Even with the data from the Democrat run districts (which also run high on murders and crime by some unknown coincidence) the actual data shows that the U.S. has a better death rate than most of the EU except Germany.

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                  • Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

                    The death rate in large Democrat states like New York and New Jersey is ten times the death rate in large Republican states like Florida and Texas. Republicans have an advantage because they don't like to murder old people like Cuomo did in New York by sending infected people into nursing homes. Even with the data from the Democrat run districts (which also run high on murders and crime by some unknown coincidence) the actual data shows that the U.S. has a better death rate than most of the EU except Germany.
                    Trump will not lose the election.

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                    • The top four countries USA, Brazil, India and Russia have more than half the worlds cases.

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                      • Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

                        The death rate in large Democrat states like New York and New Jersey is ten times the death rate in large Republican states like Florida and Texas. Republicans have an advantage because they don't like to murder old people like Cuomo did in New York by sending infected people into nursing homes. Even with the data from the Democrat run districts (which also run high on murders and crime by some unknown coincidence) the actual data shows that the U.S. has a better death rate than most of the EU except Germany.
                        Are you attending the Republican Convention in Florida ?

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                        • As the disease spreads rapidly, more and more places reopen. We are nuts as a species, and we will all go off as a result. It has been nice knowing most of you.

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                          • Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

                            Trump will not lose the election.
                            Do you mean that he'll win the election or are you 'masking' something with your choice of words?
                            "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                            "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                            "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                            • Originally posted by Tony Boron View Post

                              Are you attending the Republican Convention in Florida ?
                              LOL - of course that has also now been cancelled ... no doubt due to the "lower death rate in Republican Florida"...

                              I think they should just hold the RNC in Death Valley.

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                              • 12 states with over 100,000 cases and 7 other states hurrying to join them.

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