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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Dilip - I find it very hard to accept that Hillary, despite her flaws and baggage, could ever be worse than Trump is (And almost "was") ......Trump has set back both the nation and the world.......and it will take time to recover....Just my 2 cents.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Agree. In 2016, he was probably the lesser of the two evils, when compared to the nauseatingly 'politically correct' Hillary...

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  • Steve Douglas
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

    Ha-ha-ha! Bankrupting your companies 6 times (with other investors losing money), while all the time getting richer yourself (probably related to the bankruptcies), is just another example of corruption in the American Capitalist system....
    While I don't doubt for an instant that Trump and/or his corporations are corrupt, this is not new news. He still was elected president. To an extent his base just doesn't care. And there are lots of people who have declared bankruptcy or presided over companies that went bankrupt without doing anything illegal or unethical. So I don't think that in itself should be a bar to running for office.

    Steve

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Steve Douglas View Post



    Trump himself has never declared bankruptcy personally, nor am I aware that he was ever judged bankrupt via actions by another party. I am also not certain why this should be an impediment to running for office.


    Steve

    Ha-ha-ha! Bankrupting your companies 6 times (with other investors losing money), while all the time getting richer yourself (probably related to the bankruptcies), is just another example of corruption in the American Capitalist system....
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Sunday, 29th November, 2020, 11:33 AM.

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  • Steve Douglas
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    Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
    At least now, President Donald Trump has said, earlier today, that he will leave the White House on January 20, 2021, should the Electoral College certify that Joe Biden won the election.
    I believe he said that a few days ago and then reversed course. He has not conceded.

    I am no fan of Donald Trump and I am happy that he was defeated. That said:

    I think that the U.S. needs to enact some Amendments to their Constitution to prevent another Trump-like situation. Specifically:
    1) Tightening eligibility rules for presidential candidates. There is no way someone who has gone bankrupt six times should eligible to run for any electoral office, let alone the top elected position in the free world.
    Trump himself has never declared bankruptcy personally, nor am I aware that he was ever judged bankrupt via actions by another party. I am also not certain why this should be an impediment to running for office. It strikes me as anti-democratic, discriminating against the poorer members of society.

    2) Dealing with the avalanche of lies and misleading statements -- clocked by some at over 20,000 -- from Trump while in office -- a recurrence of this has to be stopped.
    Errr, how do you stop somebody who is the president of the country from saying what he wants to say. I agree that every time he opens his mouth another lie falls out. And Daniel Dale has made a career out of tracking this. But, are you suggesting that the president of the united states has to run any of his speeches past a panel of fact-checkers?? You're suggesting that there be arbiters of truth. How are they selected? Via elections? Truth determined via popular vote? And, ummm who watches the watchers??

    3) Tightening up the Pardon privilege which the President currently holds. Many think that Trump will pardon himself; this is apparently possible, although it has never been done before. Richard Nixon researched it in 1974 just before he resigned, with published outcome that it is possible. Nixon was pardoned by his successor, Gerald Ford, one month after he resigned.
    Getting an amendment to the U.S. constitution would certainly be required for this and the language is definitely vague regarding self-pardons. It's a very high hurdle to get an amendment done. Many presidents of different stripes have used the pardon privilege to reward all kinds of people. It's the U.S. equivalent of patronage appointments by Canadian Prime Ministers on their way out the door. It is unlikely that a self-pardon for the u.s. president would work in any case. The United States of America was founded upon the notion of rejecting the idea of "Kings", which a self-pardon would enable.

    Steve


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  • Frank Dixon
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    At least now, President Donald Trump has said, earlier today, that he will leave the White House on January 20, 2021, should the Electoral College certify that Joe Biden won the election.

    I think that the U.S. needs to enact some Amendments to their Constitution to prevent another Trump-like situation. Specifically:
    1) Tightening eligibility rules for presidential candidates. There is no way someone who has gone bankrupt six times should eligible to run for any electoral office, let alone the top elected position in the free world.
    2) Dealing with the avalanche of lies and misleading statements -- clocked by some at over 20,000 -- from Trump while in office -- a recurrence of this has to be stopped.
    3) Tightening up the Pardon privilege which the President currently holds. Many think that Trump will pardon himself; this is apparently possible, although it has never been done before. Richard Nixon researched it in 1974 just before he resigned, with published outcome that it is possible. Nixon was pardoned by his successor, Gerald Ford, one month after he resigned.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    This is worth listening to.

    ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqhx..._channel=MSNBC
    Good video. However, some other truths need to be acknowledged too...e.g. the majority of us want things like the monorail transportation, but why are they not happening? Because of inherent dysfunctionality in our governance systems:
    1. Democracy minus fairness = either mob rule or corruption (another word for 'money rules'). Our elected officials need to abide by the ethics of natural justice.
    2. Indirect taxation is much more efficient for all concerned, and unlike what many believe, is just as progressive as direct taxation, because whenever money is earned/saved, it eventually gets spent (or else what would be the point of earning & saving?). There was GST brought on to real estate, but because 'money rules' in politics, huge appreciations in real estate are somehow not being taxed indirectly! Instead of bringing about fairness in GST, what is being hanged over our heads is the specter of wealth tax!

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    This is worth listening to.

    ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqhx..._channel=MSNBC

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  • Lucas Davies
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    Another Trump lawsuit rejected by a panel of conservative judges, at least one of which Trump himself appointed: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...ylvania-440813

    You can say whatever you want in a press conference when you don't need to prove any of your claims and there are no real repercussions for anything you say. In reality, it's just rhetoric to appeal to Trump fans, while they didn't even made any allegations of fraud in court because they know that they have no evidence to support it.

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  • Ed Seedhouse
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    Stop the bullshit Eddy, seriously. Stop turning Chesstalk into a toxic environment.

    Thanks.

    Why don't you just leave, and go start your own forum?
    Poor poor baby.

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  • Sam Sharpe
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    ... Stop turning Chesstalk into a toxic environment....
    Ummm, I think we've been there for quite a number of years already.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post

    Poor baby.
    Stop the bullshit Eddy, seriously. Stop turning Chesstalk into a toxic environment.

    Thanks.

    Why don't you just leave, and go start your own forum?

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  • Ed Seedhouse
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    Stop the bullshit Eddy ... I don't send Trump a single penny. Sponsor chess tournaments yes, Trump no.

    OK?

    Stop with the bullshit, thanks.
    Poor baby.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post

    "Factual" evidence from a Trump twitter account! Keep sending him your money Neil!
    Stop the bullshit Eddy ... I don't send Trump a single penny. Sponsor chess tournaments yes, Trump no.

    OK?

    Stop with the bullshit, thanks.

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  • Ed Seedhouse
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    Amazing reaction from the crowd to such overwhelming factual evidence.
    "Factual" evidence from a Trump twitter account! Keep sending him your money Neil!

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