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Agree with your scenario example, but, does not correspond with the situation here,The business relationship existed by Hunter Biden's own admission in interviews with ABC news a year ago. Sorry, but you are still presenting nonsensical arguments.
Interviewer-"If your last name wasn't Biden do you think you would of been asked to be on the board of Burisma?"
Hunter Biden- "I don't know"
Also interesting is the Hunter Biden text complaining about Joe taxing him at 50% on everything he earns.
If Joe wins he will be impeached and Kamala Harris will be president.
Sid, suppose the following scenario: I drop by a chess tournament where a friend of mine is playing and I chat with him between rounds. You are also playing in the tournament and while my friend is chatting with me you come over to (briefly) join the conversation. We don't know each other so my friend introduces us. The next day I email my friend saying it was great to hang out with him and also that it was nice to meet with you. Does that email show that there's some sort of business relationship between us?
No.
If this is all that exists in the way of "smoking gun" emails, all I can say is that so far there's a lot more smoke than gun.
We have a laptop of questionable provenance, a report by a tabloid not exactly known for journalistic rigour, Trump's fingerprints (via Giuliani) all over it, and emails which hint at maybe there was something. Or maybe not.
If more develops from this (and I don't mean Tucker Carlson having conniptions) I'll pay it more attention.
Steve
It isn't just emails. It is texts, its whatsapp, its recordings, its videos, its travel, its pictures of Joe Biden with Hunter Biden's associates. Its recordings where the others say if you talk to the press you will bury us.
Sid, suppose the following scenario: I drop by a chess tournament where a friend of mine is playing and I chat with him between rounds. You are also playing in the tournament and while my friend is chatting with me you come over to (briefly) join the conversation. We don't know each other so my friend introduces us. The next day I email my friend saying it was great to hang out with him and also that it was nice to meet with you. Does that email show that there's some sort of business relationship between us?
No.
If this is all that exists in the way of "smoking gun" emails, all I can say is that so far there's a lot more smoke than gun.
We have a laptop of questionable provenance, a report by a tabloid not exactly known for journalistic rigour, Trump's fingerprints (via Giuliani) all over it, and emails which hint at maybe there was something. Or maybe not.
If more develops from this (and I don't mean Tucker Carlson having conniptions) I'll pay it more attention.
Does that email show that there's some sort of business relationship between us?
Agree with your scenario example, but, does not correspond with the situation here,The business relationship existed by Hunter Biden's own admission in interviews with ABC news a year ago. Sorry, but you are still presenting nonsensical arguments.
Interviewer-"If your last name wasn't Biden do you think you would of been asked to be on the board of Burisma?"
Hunter Biden- "I don't know"
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 31st October, 2020, 12:42 PM.
Sid, suppose the following scenario: I drop by a chess tournament where a friend of mine is playing and I chat with him between rounds. You are also playing in the tournament and while my friend is chatting with me you come over to (briefly) join the conversation. We don't know each other so my friend introduces us. The next day I email my friend saying it was great to hang out with him and also that it was nice to meet with you. Does that email show that there's some sort of business relationship between us?
No.
If this is all that exists in the way of "smoking gun" emails, all I can say is that so far there's a lot more smoke than gun.
We have a laptop of questionable provenance, a report by a tabloid not exactly known for journalistic rigour, Trump's fingerprints (via Giuliani) all over it, and emails which hint at maybe there was something. Or maybe not.
If more develops from this (and I don't mean Tucker Carlson having conniptions) I'll pay it more attention.
Well, who knows! Nobody believes the polls, nobody is telling you the truth?
Huge early turnout at the advance polls, well that is a good sign for Biden. Isn't it?
For those of us outside the Fox News / OAN / Sinclair / Trump bubble, it is virtually impossible to understand the thought process of those undecided leaning towards voting Trump, but this clip maybe just too close to the truth.
I agree that Twitter should not have censored tweets linking to the NYPost story. Whatever one might think of the Post or the story itself, the Post is not some crank website run by a guy sitting in his basement making stuff up.
That said, there's still not much story here. Or at least, there are a lot more questions than answers. We have a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, that was given (of course) to Rudy Giuliani. To the best of my knowledge nobody has verified that it is in fact Hunter Biden's laptop. The repair shop owner/operator claims it to be so but that has not been verified that I've seen. The laptop is purportedly in the possession of the FBI.
Errata Security has indeed verified one email which WAS NOT WRITTEN BY HUNTER BIDEN. So what? Sid, I could send you an email right now thanking you for the Rolex you gave me for my birthday. Errata Security would be able to verify it using the metadata. But all they could demonstrate is that I wrote that email, not that you gave me something for my birthday, let alone a Rolex.
If the email that's been verified is accessible on the laptop then I presume that an email client was used. Presumably then sent items and full email chains can be verified. As I said before, an email sent BY HUNTER BIDEN would be significant. An email sent by someone hawking Viagra does not mean that Hunter Biden has ED.
Steve
P.S. Thanks for the Rolex.
All well and good except the email was not sent by a random person, it was sent by Hunter Biden's business associate while Biden was VP in 2015. Your argument is nonsensical.
I agree that Twitter should not have censored tweets linking to the NYPost story. Whatever one might think of the Post or the story itself, the Post is not some crank website run by a guy sitting in his basement making stuff up.
That said, there's still not much story here. Or at least, there are a lot more questions than answers. We have a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, that was given (of course) to Rudy Giuliani. To the best of my knowledge nobody has verified that it is in fact Hunter Biden's laptop. The repair shop owner/operator claims it to be so but that has not been verified that I've seen. The laptop is purportedly in the possession of the FBI.
Errata Security has indeed verified one email which WAS NOT WRITTEN BY HUNTER BIDEN. So what? Sid, I could send you an email right now thanking you for the Rolex you gave me for my birthday. Errata Security would be able to verify it using the metadata. But all they could demonstrate is that I wrote that email, not that you gave me something for my birthday, let alone a Rolex.
If the email that's been verified is accessible on the laptop then I presume that an email client was used. Presumably then sent items and full email chains can be verified. As I said before, an email sent BY HUNTER BIDEN would be significant. An email sent by someone hawking Viagra does not mean that Hunter Biden has ED.
That may well be so.but Tucker Carlson has in no way backed off of the original story. Now that the emails from the original story have been validated via DKIM by respected cybersecurity firm Errata security how do you reconcile this with Joe Biden's claim that this is "Russian disinformation"? Noteworthy is that Twitter uncensored this story. They have backed off of the claim that these emails were stolen by hackers that was their rationalization to censor the story in the first place.
I can assure you that I am in no way in love with Trump. He was not aggressive enough in stopping various branches of his administration in interfering with the Dr patient relationship with respect to treating patients with early .symptoms of COVID19.
I am not in love with Biden either who's ideas are the exact opposite "of following the science".but I digress.
I believe that you honestly follow the truth as do I so again I am interested in how you reconcile Biden's explanation in the face of irrefutable evidence that says
otherwise.
And the Washington Post is an accurate arbiter of truth in what alternate universe? Get real. If Trump wins it is against Crooked Joe Biden, Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook. I like his odds.
So now we know, explicitly, that the WP, AP, and NPR are on your list of sneer-worthy news media. Please name three news/opinion organizations that you consider reliable and trustworthy. You're pretty good at sneering at people whose opinions differ from yours. Let us all in on where you find your truths.
Not the only copy. The issue is the temporary loss of the material that would have supported his interview with the whistleblower. Someone at UPS opened the document and took out the thumb drive that contained the data. UPS then destroyed all the evidence after recovering the USB drive supposedly lying on the floor of their mail room. Anyway in the end it was only a speed bump.
World renowned Cyber Security expert Robert Graham of Errata security often quoted by the Washington Post published this blog last week correctly insisting on the metadata to verify the emails via DKIM. https://blog.erratasec.com/2020/10/y...l#.X5wRIlNKibs
In response Rudy Giuliani turned over emails to the DCNF that then forwarded them to Mr Graham who verified using DKIM that in fact the emails are authentic
I contacted several sources about your suggestion of making the meta data public and I think the reason this metadata was not made public as per your suggestion was that until a credible third party like Mr Graham of Errata Security validated it Google could have simply edited the DKIM on their servers to prove that the emails are not valid had the meta data simply been made available on a public server. Sadly, it has been verified that Google has gone to great lengths to silence conservative voices.
This is all I wanted. It's so weird how people are so eager to accept stories without proof because they support their side.
Good to see honest Democratic Congressman coming forward in support of Tony Bobulinski ... hope it's not too late.
And right after Twitter CEO Dorsey appeared in front of a Senate Hearing and got crushed by Sen. Cruz ... the New York Post is now allowed back into their own Twitter account.
Gotta love those Dems.
Last edited by Neil Frarey; Friday, 30th October, 2020, 07:37 PM.
Why don't I believe that they received "damning" documents about the Bidens and then lost the only copy without making a backup in the latest episode of "we swear that there's all this incriminating stuff on the Bidens; we just can't show you any"? I mean...
Not the only copy. The issue is the temporary loss of the material that would have supported his interview with the whistleblower. Someone at UPS opened the document and took out the thumb drive that contained the data. UPS then destroyed all the evidence after recovering the USB drive supposedly lying on the floor of their mail room. Anyway in the end it was only a speed bump.
I was hoping to get a more up to date number but....paywall! In any event, would you please fact check all 22,000+ Trump lies and let us all know in how many cases Trump was "right in the end?" A spreadsheet would be good.
Also, still waiting to find out why AP and NPR are no longer credible sources of news and opinions.
And the Washington Post is an accurate arbiter of truth in what alternate universe? Get real. If Trump wins it is against Crooked Joe Biden, Google, Amazon, Twitter and Facebook. I like his odds.
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