Hamilton 150th Anniversary - August 19-20, 2023

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  • #16
    Originally posted by John Brown View Post
    With the time controls that you are using will it be FIDE Rated?
    Open and U1800 sections will be FIDE rated.
    Originally the event was 90+30, but we changed it to 60+30 based on popular demand.

    FIDE has a rule that FIDE rated players over 2400 need a minimum game time of 2 hours (based on 60 moves).
    Thus we will submit those sections for FIDE rating, but the games involving those with FIDE rating 2400 + will not be FIDE rated.
    All the other games, yes, will be FIDE rated.

    We are delighted that GM Razvan Preotu has joined our event.
    His games will be CFC rated but not FIDE rated.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

      Open and U1800 sections will be FIDE rated.
      Originally the event was 90+30, but we changed it to 60+30 based on popular demand.

      FIDE has a rule that FIDE rated players over 2400 need a minimum game time of 2 hours (based on 60 moves).
      Thus we will submit those sections for FIDE rating, but the games involving those with FIDE rating 2400 + will not be FIDE rated.
      All the other games, yes, will be FIDE rated.

      We are delighted that GM Razvan Preotu has joined our event.
      His games will be CFC rated but not FIDE rated.

      I did not know FIDE has such a rating rule.

      So if you have Razvan Preotu versus a < 2400 FIDE rated player, and they are playing < 2 hours for 60 moves time control.

      Razvan knows his game will NOT be FIDE rated. But the lower-rated player's game WILL be FIDE rated?

      So you have a game with 2 FIDE-rated players, and only 1 of the players is getting FIDE rated.

      Wouldn't that skew the FIDE ratings?

      And if the game is NOT FIDE rated for either player, wouldn't that be unfair to the lower-rated player if he or she should happen to defeat the higher-rated player?
      Last edited by Pargat Perrer; Tuesday, 8th August, 2023, 03:15 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post


        I did not know FIDE has such a rating rule.

        So if you have Razvan Preotu versus a < 2400 FIDE rated player, and they are playing < 2 hours for 60 moves time control.

        Razvan knows his game will NOT be FIDE rated. But the lower-rated player's game WILL be FIDE rated?

        So you have a game with 2 FIDE-rated players, and only 1 of the players is getting FIDE rated.

        Wouldn't that skew the FIDE ratings?

        And if the game is NOT FIDE rated for either player, wouldn't that be unfair to the lower-rated player if he or she should happen to defeat the higher-rated player?
        The game will not be FIDE rated for either player. Both players will be advised in advance. Nothing unfair about it.

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        • #19
          We are up to 103 players now.
          List see above.

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          • #20
            Registered player list updated this morning - 109 players.

            scroll up to see list.

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            • #21
              Looks like Hamilton 109 Victoria 98 with two IMs each. Well done Bob
              Paul Leblanc
              Treasurer Chess Foundation of Canada

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Paul Leblanc View Post
                Looks like Hamilton 109 Victoria 98 with two IMs each. Well done Bob
                Thanks Paul.
                And well done to you as well.
                A wonderful tribute to Lynn.
                Have a great weekend.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

                  The game will not be FIDE rated for either player. Both players will be advised in advance. Nothing unfair about it.
                  You have only two rounds Sunday, why not make the Sunday games 90 + 30 so they can be FIDE rated? You're most likely to have FIDE-rated vs FIDE-rated players paired against each other on Sunday anyway.... or does FIDE have some weird rule that the TC has to be the same for every round in a tournament or it's not FIDE rated?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by John Upper View Post

                    You have only two rounds Sunday, why not make the Sunday games 90 + 30 so they can be FIDE rated? You're most likely to have FIDE-rated vs FIDE-rated players paired against each other on Sunday anyway.... or does FIDE have some weird rule that the TC has to be the same for every round in a tournament or it's not FIDE rated?
                    As I know only tournaments for titles have a stricter rule that all tournament games settings shall be the identical.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                      As I know only tournaments for titles have a stricter rule that all tournament games settings shall be the identical.
                      I do believe all rounds need to be the same time controls.
                      Besides, I would never entertaining such a change unless under dire circumstances.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post


                        I did not know FIDE has such a rating rule.

                        So if you have Razvan Preotu versus a < 2400 FIDE rated player, and they are playing < 2 hours for 60 moves time control.

                        Razvan knows his game will NOT be FIDE rated. But the lower-rated player's game WILL be FIDE rated?

                        So you have a game with 2 FIDE-rated players, and only 1 of the players is getting FIDE rated.

                        Wouldn't that skew the FIDE ratings?

                        And if the game is NOT FIDE rated for either player, wouldn't that be unfair to the lower-rated player if he or she should happen to defeat the higher-rated player?
                        Good points, Pargat.

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                        • #27
                          We are in the 4th round. All is well..

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                          • #28
                            IM Leon Piasetski was upset in round 2 by Zachary Liu, one of our very promising young players. The G/60 + 30 format is also popular out here. 3 hour game instead of 4 hour game.
                            Paul Leblanc
                            Treasurer Chess Foundation of Canada

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                            • #29
                              Thanks to all for participating in our 150th anniversary celebration of the Hamilton City Chess Club.
                              Final count was 114 players, including myself when I floated myself in for round 5 to avoid a forced bye.

                              And the winners are:

                              Open section - a four way tie at 4 points, $ 550 each, trophies based on tiebreaks

                              1st - Nicholas Vettese
                              2nd - Kyle Morrison
                              3rd - Razvan Preotu & Hairan Liang

                              U1800 Section

                              1st - Devin Nicholson 4.5 points, $ 400
                              2nd - Gurdev Singh 4 points, $ 250
                              3rd - Venkat Karthikeya Reddy Kola 4 pints $ 250

                              U1200 Section - a three way tie at 4.5 points, $ 170 each, trophies based on tiebreak.

                              1st - Muhammad Aman Sheik
                              2nd - Michael Lu
                              3rd - Edward Shoukai Wang

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                              • #30
                                Congratulations to Nicholas Vettese and Kyle Morrison. Great results!

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