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  • #16
    Re: Check the website for tournaments

    improved? as in the section for BC tournaments was last updated May 5 and includes an event for which the entry deadline was in 2007?

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    • #17
      Re: Check the website for tournaments

      Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
      improved? as in the section for BC tournaments was last updated May 5 and includes an event for which the entry deadline was in 2007?
      That is a typical case of a calendar depending on the webmaster (1 person) input. If that guy is busy or becomes unavailable, you have what we see as you righly pointed out...

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      • #18
        Re: CFC tournament marketing dead

        Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
        Can't you (or someone) just get them off the server? Surely you don't mean that 50% of the people in the CCCA have joined, but don't actually play via the server?

        I agree though, that collecting and maintaining current email addresses will always be a problem. In any case, developing the content of an online magazine is a much bigger issue and makes the delivery problems look easy.

        Maybe the CFC should ask Jean Hebert to do it for them? His e-magz is excellent and seems to be popular too (despite being in French... c'mon, you know what I mean)
        The server I am talking about is the ICCF server, CCCA is also using for national events. It has thousands of players registered from all over the World. On top of this Canadians listed there do not have to be members of CCCA in order to play in ICCF. It is not a trivial task to begin sorting everything out as suggested. Last but not least I do not think you can collect email addresses and use them unless you have the acceptance of those people!?...

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        • #19
          Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

          Any answer yet from an executive member to Governor Liles questions?

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          • #20
            Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

            Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
            Any answer yet from an executive member to Governor Liles' questions?
            I have received an answer from David Lavin (CFC president), but I am awaiting further confirmation that I can send the reply to the person who asked the question and/or this board.
            ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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            • #21
              Re: Torunament postings

              You make a good point.

              We rely on the TD's to send us their tournament postings. The BCCF appears to be doing an excellent job of keeping their tournament postings up to date. I will ask our webmaster to simply link to BCCF site for tournament listings.

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              • #22
                Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                Can you share the answer with your fellow Governors, Kerry?

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                • #23
                  Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                  Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
                  Can you share the answer with your fellow Governors, Kerry?
                  I don't see why not. You've got email. I'll send it to any other governor who asks...
                  ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                  • #24
                    Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                    Did I miss the answer to your questions when I read the email, Kerry?

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                    • #25
                      Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                      Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
                      Did I miss the answer to your questions when I read the email, Kerry?
                      I very much doubt it.
                      ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                      • #26
                        Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                        So a Governor reading that email should know who authorized and when the cessation of the magazine, Kerry?

                        Meet the new executive, same as the old one.
                        Last edited by Ken Craft; Friday, 1st August, 2008, 02:17 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Torunament postings

                          well, thanks, but it wasn't always the case. We too have had our issues with the one person bottleneck.

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                          • #28
                            Re: CFC Print - President Lavin Refuses to Deal With Past Issues

                            Hi Ken:

                            I am the CFC member who contacted Governor Liles, partly concerning questions you had raised as a Governor, and which had not been answered ( as you are already aware ). Go to the bottom of the following list of e-mails, and read up to the August 8 e-mail from Kerry, and you will get a full record of his dialogue with President David Lavin on my 2 questions ( since David did not answer Kerry's question whether the e-mails could be published, I am assuming information is to be shared , unless declared otherwise ):

                            August 4, 2008

                            Bob, here is the dialogue I have had with David Lavin... I think we have reached the end of the dialogue.

                            He has had several opportunities to answer your questions and apparently has no better answer. Sorry.

                            Kerry


                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: David [mailto:davidfl321@yahoo.ca]
                            Sent: August 3, 2008 10:17 PM
                            To: kerryliles@rogers.com
                            Subject: Re: Information request for CFC Executive


                            I believe I answered your question to the best of my ability.




                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: Kerry Liles <kerryliles@rogers.com>
                            To: David <davidfl321@yahoo.ca>
                            Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 9:52:18 PM
                            Subject: RE: Information request for CFC Executive


                            David, I had sent an earlier reply indicating that I was looking for permission to pass on your comments to the member who asked the question. I have not received any reply. I would very much like a simple yes or no on that question.

                            Concerning the original question(s) from the member, it seems they are simple enough. Are the answers known? I think these are legitimate questions concerning a very important aspect of the operation of the CFC.

                            regards,

                            Kerry Liles
                            OCA Treasurer
                            CFC Governor

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: David [mailto:davidfl321@yahoo.ca]
                            Sent: July 30, 2008 8:31 PM
                            To: kerryliles@rogers.com; Chess Federation of Canada
                            Cc: stijn@rogers.com; lcraver@chess.ca; cmallon@chess.ca; ellennadeau@yahoo.ca; Michael Barron; Hal Bond
                            Subject: Re: Information request for CFC Executive


                            Dear Kerry:

                            It must be incredibly frustrating for you to face disgruntled members who have legitimate questions, and to be able to offer them very few answers. Of course, you want to reassure them but for some time the Governor's questions and concerns have also gone unanswered. I have been away from chess for some time and as I try to uncover the mysteries of the CFC. I find that one question leads to two, which leads to four, which leads to an impenetrable morass of conflicting information, curious opinions, and well-intentioned mistakes.

                            The most valuable resource we can all offer to the CFC is our time and goodwill. I have limited time to devote to the CFC, and have decided that I will devote all of it to the future of the organization, rather than to unravelling the mysteries of past decisions. To that end, I can say that much has been accomplished since the AGM in Montreal. If I can ask you to be patient a litte longer, I should have the business plan for the Governor's to review prior to the end of the August.

                            Sincere best wishes,

                            David Lavin


                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: Kerry Liles <kerryliles@rogers.com>
                            To: Chess Federation of Canada <info@chess.ca>
                            Cc: davidfl321@yahoo.ca; stijn@rogers.com; lcraver@chess.ca; cmallon@chess.ca; ellennadeau@yahoo.ca; Michael Barron <barron045@yahoo.com>; Hal Bond <halbond@rogers.com>
                            Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:39:12 AM
                            Subject: Information request for CFC Executive


                            To the Executive of the CFC:

                            I have received an inquiry from a CFC member in Ontario. He has the following questions and has been stymied in getting any information in any public forum and would like a response from the CFC:


                            1. Who authorized the discontinuance of the Chess Canada magazine and when and why?



                            2. Has there been a formal notice to the other party to the magazine contract (Is that TKS, Robert Hamilton, or some other party?) cancelling the magazine contract?



                            I would appreciate a formal reply to these legitimate questions as soon as practical.

                            If I have inadvertently omitted any of the Executive from this email, please forward it to them on my behalf (and please let me know who I overlooked!).

                            regards,

                            Kerry Liles
                            CFC Governor (Ontario)
                            OCA Treasurer
                            ( start reading e-mails up from here )

                            Having read the e-mail from President Lavin, I have to say I am not satisfied. My 2 questions very much concern issues of importance to the CFC membership, even if they refer to events past.

                            I take it from David's e-mail, that he started to investigate the answers to the questions, and his inquiry got bogged down ( it would seem to me that the answers should be easy to locate - the questions are simple ). So he decided that working on the future was more important than answering a CFC member's legitimate questions about past Executive ( ?? ) decisions that affected his membership.

                            I guess anything that happened in the past is now closed as far as any explanations are concerned !? Convenient - but not " communication ". It seems a new regime is now in place, with the new Executive. Not sure I like its initial response to members.

                            Does the answer seem legitimate to you??

                            Bob

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                            • #29
                              Re: CFC Print magazine apparently dead

                              CFC Boards seem to like to do things in secret. I often wonder why Governors are complicit.

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                              • #30
                                Re: CFC Print - President Lavin Refuses to Deal With Past Issues

                                Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                                David Lavin: I have limited time to devote to the CFC, and have decided that I will devote all of it to the future of the organization, rather than to unravelling the mysteries of past decisions.
                                Woohoo! Salvation is at hand. We will *ignore* past decisions and their consequences. Thus the CFC is NOT close to running out of money.

                                Spock: 'Captain, there is a very large "Somebody Else's Problem" Field forming off the port bow.'

                                Steve

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