Should the CFC try to dismantle the Chess Foundation?

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  • Ken Craft
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    Re: Should the CFC try to dismantle the Chess Foundation?

    And I shan't be replying, Gary.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
    You should consider the results of the poll.
    To refresh your memory, here is the question to which you have not replied.


    You've been a governor a long time, Ken. Would you list your main contributions in making the organization better? If you think it is better.

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  • Ken Craft
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    You should consider the results of the poll.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
    I considred the source of the request.
    I considered the performance of the CFC during your governorship.

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  • Ken Craft
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    I considred the source of the request.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    I don't think so. For me, the 11 message is this one ;)

    I see. For me the other one was 11. I notice he didn't answer. I wonder why.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I see. He was defending you.
    I don't think so. For me, the 11 message is this one ;)


    Regarding your other questions, I'll think.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    FYI: If you have not changed anything you could see the post number on the right side on the dark blue bar. (you may find your (posters) name on left, lift eyes a little bit, and move all way to right.)
    I see. He was defending you. Tell me something. Do you think it was disrepectful of me to ask you if you understood a discussion which actually goes back to the beginning of the Chess Foundation in 1960? It started with 5 donations which totaled $125.00.

    Do you know that in 1960 the amount of $25. was probably half of the weekly industrial wage for a person in Canada?

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Paul Leblanc View Post
    Gary, the answer to your question can be found in the Governors Letters on the CFC website. I looked at the oldest report on the site (1997-1998) and found the Foundation's contribution to be $7,142 in 1998 dollars. Is that not between $7,000 and $9,000? Read GL 5 of that year.
    The annual revenue has fluctuated and will continue to fluctuate with interest rates. I just know 2010 for sure and have a reliable forecast for 2011.
    Than that's the answer. Twelve years ago the Foundation gave the CFC more than $7,000.00. The reply you previously gave me was what I called it. A forward looking statement.

    Now let's discuss something else you wrote.

    "The CFC has an abysmal past record for financial management. Why take the only asset that hasn't been pillaged and hand it over for further profligate spending?"

    From the pages I have from 1974, the chess foundation was formed by the CFC so they wouldn't have to "pass the hat". Your opinion of the CFC financial management is outrageous. The CFC owns the foundation from my reading of the Chess Foundation Constitution. Unless I'm mistaken the CFC has "donated" surplus money into the foundation.

    What do we have now? The foundation is stuffed with cash and there is no statement of intent from the CFC to send an Olympic team even at this late date due to a lack of funds.

    There is something wrong with this model to my way of thinking.

    You really should have more respect for the CFC financial management which has stuffed the chess foundation with such a large amount of money. If anyone should be making such a complaint it's the membership and the taxpayers who provide the tax break.

    Where would I go to see the year end Foundation fund totals for the years 1995 to the end of the last fiscal year? If it's not readily available could you supply it for the membership.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    Which question would that be, Ken? I didn't set the board to show me post numbers.

    Do you expect people who read this kind of stuff to read your mind?
    FYI: If you have not changed anything you could see the post number on the right side on the dark blue bar. (you may find your (posters) name on left, lift eyes a little bit, and move all way to right.)

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Ken Craft View Post
    Gary,
    Your question in post #11 is rude and not germane to the topic at hand.
    Which question would that be, Ken? I didn't set the board to show me post numbers.

    Do you expect people who read this kind of stuff to read your mind?

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  • Ken Craft
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    Gary,
    Your question in post #11 is rude and not germane to the topic at hand.

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  • Paul Leblanc
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    Gary, the answer to your question can be found in the Governors Letters on the CFC website. I looked at the oldest report on the site (1997-1998) and found the Foundation's contribution to be $7,142 in 1998 dollars. Is that not between $7,000 and $9,000? Read GL 5 of that year.
    The annual revenue has fluctuated and will continue to fluctuate with interest rates. I just know 2010 for sure and have a reliable forecast for 2011.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    Do you even understand the points we are discussing?
    I thought that you are only arguing :D

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  • Micah Hughey
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    I concur with Paul and Ken and Bob that the foundation should be donated in its entirety to the Edmonton Chess Club. Err, that it should not be dismantled, I mean.

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