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:) This is an excellent idea. The Canadian Open venue is the perfect time to hold such a TD training clinic. Bolstering our ranks of Canadian FA's will aid in our capacity to hold quality tournaments.
Perhaps the CFC would consider sponsoring such an event.
Not 100%, but maybe splitting the costs 50/50. Participants pay $100 instead of $200.
What do you think? :)
I hope the CFC at least makes sure they subsidize the cost for applicants who actually ARE current CFC members.
I hope the CFC at least makes sure they subsidize the cost for applicants who actually ARE current CFC members.
Where will the CFC get the money to subsidize a FIDE arbtier program? Last I heard the Olympic team or teams were the priority. For 10 students it would cost $1,000.00.
How many new FIDE arbiters would we need in Canada? Wouldn't that mean events would have to charge for CFC and FIDE rating fees?
The CFC already pays for the title application fee. You also get an automatic Honorary membership if you go on to being an IA. That's a pretty good subsidy.
The CFC already pays for the title application fee. You also get an automatic Honorary membership if you go on to being an IA. That's a pretty good subsidy.
Does that mean you're for or against paying $100.00 for each person taking the course?
I'm a correspondence IA. All I got was a certificate plus a nice pin.
Since you asked, I'd prefer to spend the $1000 to get Hal or someone else from Canada certified to teach the course. More of a long-term investment, it would make future seminars much more affordable.
Since you asked, I'd prefer to spend the $1000 to get Hal or someone else from Canada certified to teach the course. More of a long-term investment, it would make future seminars much more affordable.
It seems we're not discussing the willingness to spend $1000. We seem to be discussing on whom it will be spent.
I believe this is an excellent opportunity for aspiring TD's to earn this compulsory FA norm. I was most pleased that the organizing committee for this year's Canadian Open was receptive to the idea. Last year in Edmonton they considered it but ultimately the seminar did not happen. The reason for the cost is that we don't yet have a FIDE lecturer in Canada. I will be assisting the lecturer this year, after which I will (hopefully) become a certified FIDE lecturer.
FIDE is tightening its rules about FIDE rated tournaments. Titled arbiters are becoming more and more important. Within a few years all FIDE rated tournaments will require at least an FA as chief arbiter.
Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open - A CFC Subsidy?
Hi Hal:
As an executive member, and FIDE Rep., what is your position on CFC giving a $100 to each of the 10 registrants towards their registration fee of $ 200 ( on the condition they are CFC members in good standing ), as proposed by some on this board?
Can CFC afford $ 1,000 for this item?
Is this money benefitting a sufficient number of people that it is achieving CFC objectives and getting good bang for the buck?
As an executive member, and FIDE Rep., what is your position on CFC giving a $100 to each of the 10 registrants towards their registration fee of $ 200 ( on the condition they are CFC members in good standing ), as proposed by some on this board?
Can CFC afford $ 1,000 for this item?
Is this money benefitting a sufficient number of people that it is achieving CFC objectives and getting good bang for the buck?
Bob
Perhaps an important question to ask is: What does the CFC get in return? I haven't seen a discussion of any responsibility on the people who take the course. They may or may not ever use it, but I suppose the assumption is that they will make use of it sooner or later?
Bob, I think the participants should pay for most if not all of the course. Any subsidy in my view would be in the 20% range. The key to reducing the cost is to attract more participants. With 2 people delivering the course we should be able to handle 15 - 20 students.
Perhaps the organizers will entertain a discount for players in the Open.
I think it also should be noted that this course is income-generating in future to the graduates - they do get a return on their investment.
Bob
Hi Bob, I wasn't going to say anything at first, but for the sake of transparency, and just in my humble opinion, becoming an FA does not seem to make any difference in generation of income. If I may suggest to people who are considering becoming FAs, you should do it for the proverbial love of the game, because you get a rush from chess tournaments being run right. I realize that sounds corny, but if it does not resonate with the reader, then I propose that answers the reader's question whether he should strive to become an FA. I cannot speak for FAs in Europe, nor even in the bigger Canadian cities like Toronto-Vancouver-Montreal, but from my own experience in a fair-size Canadian city like Ottawa, becoming an FA did not increase my income generation, LOL!
Aris Marghetis
FA since 2009 ;) [Of course, someone who's been an FA longer may differ in opinion!]
Aris Marghetis
FA since 2009 ;) [Of course, someone who's been an FA longer may differ in opinion!]
I have to tell you, I've been a correspondence IA for years. Never made a cent from the title or directing ICCF events.
It was awarded to me after directing ICCF events continuously (by post) for 6 years. I actually did it for longer than that but to qualify for the title it had to be 6 years. At times I was directing 300 or more players all over the world.
Anyone who thinks I got the title because of my pleasant personality and easy going ways is mistaken.
There was nothing I liked better than forfeiting a game from someone who was indulging in the fine art of "chess lawyering" with me. All those years and I never had a decision overturned by the appeals committee.
There's nothing more satisfying than being able to forfeit someones games simply because he's breaking the rules. Well, maybe sex is better.
Do Fide arbiters have to be of a certain rating? After all situations come up where they have to assess chess positions. Just wondering what the standard is for this.
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