$ 400 in 5 hours work !!

[Jean Hébert]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

How could I have misinterpreted that as you wanting to pass judgment, just because you asked for some further information by which to judge him?

Obviously not to judge him, but to judge the relevance of the partial information provided. How could you misinterpret that ? Only two possible explanations: you posess acute misinterpretation capabilities or a vast reservoir of bad faith.

[David Ottosen]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

In this particular instance I was simply asking for more information for everyone's benefit and certainly not passing jugdment.

May I quote your original post:

Then we could judge for ourselves

How could I have misinterpreted that as you wanting to pass judgment, just because you asked for some further information by which to judge him?

As for the zeros, well, I'm not the one with a life critical stake in the success of chess in Canada. I'm just an interested observer, and if the CFC fails (as it certainly is in danger of doing), my life will continue with zero effect. Yourself?

[Jean Hébert]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

As usual, you assume that people with something to offer in terms of the discussion give a flying fig about your judgment in the matter.

You should have waited for a better opportunity to do your "thing". In this particular instance I was simply asking for more information for everyone's benefit and certainly not passing jugdment.

It is your luck that this is a message board and not a chessboard. Otherwise you would have been checkmated many times already with only big fat zeros to show for it.

[David Ottosen]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

It could be useful to know what is the field and aim of that non-profit organization you are in, how they got those "millions in liquidity", what kind of projects they have and how they get so easily funded, etc. Then we could juge for ourselves if by its nature it has any relevance or resemblance to a chess organisation.

As usual, you assume that people with something to offer in terms of the discussion give a flying fig about your judgment in the matter. Judge information, not what you perceive to be qualifications. The kind of people who have this knowledge are not looking to get your permission to share it - they are offering it and you can choose to listen or not. No one is going to force you to, or justify why you should - it's just not worth the effort.

[Jean Hébert]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

My wife and I are both executives of non-profit organizations which have over 5,000 members and millions in liquidity. Both organizations have very strict spending rules and we're only allowed to spend a small fraction of the liquidity as seed money for special projects. Our experience tells us the rules work well because all "worthwhile" projects were later fully funded from fees, gifts, and donations, and projects which had little support from our members were not.

It could be useful to know what is the field and aim of that non-profit organization you are in, how they got those "millions in liquidity", what kind of projects they have and how they get so easily funded, etc. Then we could juge for ourselves if by its nature it has any relevance or resemblance to a chess organisation.

[Erwin Casareno]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

http://torontochess.org/drupal/chess...nt#comment-403


Erwin, may you confirm or deny this anonymous comment?

Hi Egis,

Before anything else, i love the Lithuanian website you shared on Chesstalk. My life was never the same after that !!! lol. Thanks a lot !!

Admittedly, i have problems with the Lithuanian writings there. I have never been to Lithuania. The closest i have been is Poland -in Gdansk and Ukraine - in Ivano Francsvist.

Sorry for answering your question so late!

I also wish to acknowledge your contribution to the chess in Toronto - the GTA -the photos, the games you posted. You are a great guy!
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It has been ages since i last spoke to the organizer and since then i have concentrated on my business and part time work with Strategy Games.

Maybe the organizer posted himself, or a representative - maybe.

When i post things, i use my real name and account for the mistakes and inaccuracies i make and i hold responsibility over the results. No matter what.

This is one of the many things i learned from my parents when i was young.
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[John Coleman]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

On the bright side, the website says "We are now taking Pre-registration with payment only for our Recreational and Rated Summer Active Chess Tournaments" Same "deal" as before. Except with no date, a wise move. :p

[Erwin Casareno]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

This event is cancelled, according to the tournament website. http://www.littlechessmates.com/parks.php

Thanks for the update. Have been busy for the past weeks, working with Chess and Math Assocaition.

So there is no more countdown for April 24, 2010.

[John Coleman]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

Yuri Aronov, CFC rating 2266 , heads the list of pre registrants for this Active chess tournament. With just 10 days to go.................the count down begins !!!

This event is cancelled, according to the tournament website. http://www.littlechessmates.com/parks.php

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

Yuri Aronov, CFC rating 2266 , heads the list of pre registrants for this Active chess tournament.

Yuri Aronov is the current defendin blitz champion of the week at Mom's Cafe (organized by Vlad Dobrich) , and therefore the current Toronto blitz king of the week as of Saturday April 10,2010. Vlad's Saturday blitz tournaments is by far the strongest in Toronto as titled players play there often e.g. IM Samsonkin, FM Sapozhnikov, and many other titled players.

With just 10 days to go.................the count down begins !!!

Please contact the tournament organizer for any questions.

Erwin, please check with the organizers, but I believe the event has been cancelled.

[Erwin Casareno]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

Yuri Aronov, CFC rating 2266 , heads the list of pre registrants for this Active chess tournament.

Yuri Aronov is the current defendin blitz champion of the week at Mom's Cafe (organized by Vlad Dobrich) , and therefore the current Toronto blitz king of the week as of Saturday April 10,2010. Vlad's Saturday blitz tournaments is by far the strongest in Toronto as titled players play there often e.g. IM Samsonkin, FM Sapozhnikov, and many other titled players.

With just 10 days to go.................the count down begins !!!

Please contact the tournament organizer for any questions.

[Benoit St-Pierre]

Black Boxes

The conclusion that only the rated, competitive chess sandbox counts is hereby obtained only by defining chess players as competing black boxes.

Remove the tautology and what's left is surreptitious advocacy.

[Fred Harvey]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

My wife and I are both executives of non-profit organizations which have over 5,000 members and millions in liquidity. Both organizations have very strict spending rules and we're only allowed to spend a small fraction of the liquidity as seed money for special projects. Our experience tells us the rules work well because all "worthwhile" projects were later fully funded from fees, gifts, and donations, and projects which had little support from our members were not.

We find this arrangement rather effective, and less stressful and political than the liberal rules, or the total absence of rules, we encountered in other organizations.

While you may not be talking about Foundations, these rules are very similar, and bring the same benefits with them that you cite. I agree with your entire post, for what it's worth.

[Daniel Rouleau]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

This a non-starter. You must assume that the people you put in charge can do the job and give them a free hand to do it, whatever the risks. Otherwise no organisation can move forward. After all no one is ever elected for his "financial incompetetentness". There are risks in spending but there are equal if not greater risks in not spending.

My wife and I are both executives of non-profit organizations which have over 5,000 members and millions in liquidity. Both organizations have very strict spending rules and we're only allowed to spend a small fraction of the liquidity as seed money for special projects. Our experience tells us the rules work well because all "worthwhile" projects were later fully funded from fees, gifts, and donations, and projects which had little support from our members were not.

We find this arrangement rather effective, and less stressful and political than the liberal rules, or the total absence of rules, we encountered in other organizations.

That is why no one should be too nervous about spending foundation's money. :)

I am of a different opinion.

However the "rated, competitive chess sandbox" is the only sandbox that really counts for organised chess. By definition a chess player wants to compete. Otherwise we don't have a chess player.
The aim is to bring as many people as possible in that sandbox and hopefully turn it into a garden.

The objects of the Corporation are:

To promote and encourage generally in Canada, the knowledge, study and playing of the game of chess, and to this end, and without restricting the generality of the foregoing.

I don't see how you can conclude from these obejcts that the "rated, competitive chess sandbox" is the only sandbox which really counts.

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: $ 400 in 5 hours work !!

The aim is to bring as many people as possible in that sandbox and hopefully turn it into a garden.

Absolutely!:)