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  • Canada will endorse Karpov?

    USA and most European countries wasted no time to endorse Karpov for FIDE president. Will Canada remain silent? I hope not. It is time for us to endorse Karpov.

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    Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

    I think this issue should be debated at the CFC Annual General Meeting, to be held in conjunction with the 2010 Canadian Open in Toronto, in mid-July. At this stage, we have a choice between two Russians, both with ethical problems in their pasts, pending any more entries to the FIDE Presidential race.

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      Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

      Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
      I think this issue should be debated at the CFC Annual General Meeting, to be held in conjunction with the 2010 Canadian Open in Toronto, in mid-July. At this stage, we have a choice between two Russians, both with ethical problems in their pasts, pending any more entries to the FIDE Presidential race.
      Seems to me that whatever Karpov's ethical problems may be, they are nothing compared to those of the current president's. Hopefully this will not clouds the long awaited change that is needed.

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        Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

        Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
        I think this issue should be debated at the CFC Annual General Meeting, to be held in conjunction with the 2010 Canadian Open in Toronto, in mid-July. At this stage, we have a choice between two Russians, both with ethical problems in their pasts, pending any more entries to the FIDE Presidential race.
        It seems pretty clear to anyone that the current FIDE president (Illusion-Of) is corrupt. That is quite a bit less clear about Karpov. Care to provide any facts about Karpov's ethical 'problems'?
        ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

          Chess politics being what it is, do you not think it's important to form an opinion of which of the candidates is most likely to allow Canada to continue as a zone and support him?

          Being lumped in with the U.S. or some other nation does not seem desirable to me.
          Gary Ruben
          CC - IA and SIM

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            Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

            Both camps have said that Canada's Zone is safe (during an election year - go figure!). Our biggest trump with this issue is that the US wants to retain its one country status and any other combination looks too weird.

            I just returned from the Karpov Fund Raiser in New York. It was quite impressive, as is the momentum which his campaign currently enjoys. I don't know if Leong was asked to continue as Kirsan's Secretary General, but he has announced that he will not stand for that position. Karpov's recent nomination by the Russian Federation has been discredited as was Illumzhinov's, so who knows where that one is headed. However Karpov has atleast created a draw in Russia for now. Kasparov told me in New York that Karpov's initial proposal to the Russian Fed was a joint nomination.

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            • #7
              Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

              "They had raised about $125,000."
              ( http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...hess-politics/ )

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              • #8
                Re: Job description

                Hi Hal

                Can you clarify a bit what does the President actually DO?

                Michael Yip

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                  Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                  Hi,

                  Why should Canada endorse Karpov?
                  What's Karpov's platform?
                  List 10 things he plans to do to improve chess globally and why it's better than Ilyumzinov's doings.

                  It seems everyone hates Ilyumzhinov because okay... he's extremely corrupt and has screwed up some things. I see Karpov criticizing him a lot. However I will probably never understand when so many people's reason to vote for one candidate is to assure that the other one doesn't win (again).
                  Someone please spell out why Karpov is an amazing candidate for FIDE presidency.

                  Alex F.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                    Originally posted by Alex Ferreira View Post
                    What's Karpov's platform?
                    Read yourself :D
                    http://www.karpov2010.org/campaign-mission-statement/

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                    • #11
                      Re: Job description

                      Hey Michael;

                      Good question! I spent some time this morning in the FIDE Handbook and I could only find a reference to the Presidential Board, pasted below. In more general terms, the President is ultimately responsible for the success or failure of the organization of course. Ilumzhinov has been less visible to the delegates than Campo was. The meetings I have attended are chaired by Deputy President Makropolous, sometimes in absence of the Prez. I can't say for sure how active Kirsan is regarding the FIDE roster of events and finding organizers, sponsors, etc. He did say in a recent interview that this gig was a hobby. His Presidential Board contains some hard working people. Anyway, from the handbook:

                      Chapter 07 - The Presidential Board
                      7.1. The Presidential Board is the managing organization of FIDE and is in charge with the day-to-day management of FIDE. It resolves on all matters not otherwise and explicitly reserved to another body by those Statutes. The Presidential Board exercises the rights of the General Assembly and the Executive Board between meetings of the General Assembly and the Executive Board respectively. Such powers include taking decisions which require a 3/4 majority vote pursuant to Standing Order to 1.2. Any rights so exercised have no continuing effect beyond the following General Assembly unless so authorized by the requisite majority vote.
                      However, the Presidential Board cannot take decisions on the following:

                      election of officials,
                      changes in Statutes,
                      Rules Commission matters,
                      Qualification Commission matters,
                      Budget reviews.

                      7.2. (GA `96) The Presidential Board consists of the President, the Honorary President, the Deputy President, the General Secretary, the Treasurer, the Vice Presidents, the four Continental Presidents, World Champion, Women`s World Champion and the Honorary Vice-Presidents.
                      Honorary Vice Presidents are ex officio members of the Presidential Board without vote. The Auditor shall be invited to all the Presidential Board meetings. The Auditor should not be a member of the Presidential Board when he is elected by the General Assembly.

                      In the event of any vacancy occurring on the Presidential Board, it shall be filled from within the Board by the Board, except in the case of a Continental Presidency vacancy which shall be referred for election by the particular continent, provided that the membership of the Presidential Board does not drop below the statutory requirements.

                      A Steering Committee consisting of the President, Deputy President, First Vice President, General Secretary and Treasurer can convene as necessary to discuss urgent and developing issues. All actions taken by the Steering Committee must be ratified by the Presidential Board.
                      7.3. The Presidential Board assembles at least once every three months. In addition the President may at any time convene the Presidential Board for consultation in person, by telefax or teleconference.

                      7.4. The Agenda of the meetings of the Presidential Board, as wel as the relevant documents, shall reach members at least one week before the meeting (or be published on the official website of FIDE). Any other item will be banned from discussion, except in an emergency situation, where evidence must be clearly established and is approved by a vote of two thirds of those members present.
                      Commissions’ reports shall be received one month before the Presidential Board.
                      All decisions shall be given an alpha-numeric designation.

                      The final minutes shall be distributed no later than one month after a meeting is closed.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                        Originally posted by Alex Ferreira View Post
                        Hi,

                        Why should Canada endorse Karpov?

                        It seems everyone hates Ilyumzhinov because okay... he's extremely corrupt and has screwed up some things.
                        Someone please spell out why Karpov is an amazing candidate for FIDE presidency.
                        Karpov may not be an "amazing" candidate but he is at least a decent one. That is be good enough to vote against a corrupt one. Give decency a chance.

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                          Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                          On the other hand, Ilyumzinov's ticket inlcudes the incorruptible Nigel Freeman as Treasurer.

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                            Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                            Seeing that Karpov has won multiple World Championships, I think he has way more experience to offer the chess world than Ilyumzhinov.
                            No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.

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                              Re: Canada will endorse Karpov?

                              Strange activities are happening in the Russian Chess Federation building (the same where Karpov was nominated) - a new security crew, the Bakh's cabinet is sealed.

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