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  • Dale Haukenfrers
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    I think having as many byes as you like in a tournament would be fine but they should all be zero point byes.

    I don`t think one should get even half a point for being on vacation.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    Many people say nothing because they realize it is unlikely to make a difference. That should not be mistaken for a tacit acceptance of the methodology chosen.

    I am vocal merely because I currently have the time to do so, and because I want the tournament that I took a week off work to play in, to be fair.

    You'd think I was arguing for all of King Midas' treasure, the way some of your posts are directed.
    http://chess.ca/memberinfo.asp?CFCN=142900

    You've played in 6 CFC tournaments your entire life, and this is your 7th? And you are an authority on how tournaments should be run? Are you some kind of parody? Your pairings may not be exactly as you like but they don't appear to be unfair. However, maybe the next TD in the next tournament you play will give you exactly the pairings you want, pick a player, any player Matthew.

    I just don't like the type of whiner you represent. I've seen too much damage to Canadian chess due to organizers and TDs being endlessly harrangued and driven out of a thankless task by people like you. Sometimes if you whine people will whine back. You have freedom of speech but so do I. You have no idea why no one else is complaining except to paint yourself as their defender.

    I'm just being vocal right now because I have the time and I just want the organizers to be treated fairly, whatever small problems there may be.
    Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Saturday, 17th July, 2010, 11:20 AM.

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    no there is not and no more questions, you seem to be the only one who is complaining, the loud minority as it were
    Many people say nothing because they realize it is unlikely to make a difference. That should not be mistaken for a tacit acceptance of the methodology chosen.

    I am vocal merely because I currently have the time to do so, and because I want the tournament that I took a week off work to play in, to be fair.

    You'd think I was arguing for all of King Midas' treasure, the way some of your posts are directed.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    There is.

    Next question?
    no there is not and no more questions, you seem to be the only one who is complaining, the loud minority as it were

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Re: BYEs

    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    if there is a problem
    There is.

    Next question?

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    I was simply saying you would solve the problem.
    if there is a problem

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    of course if you organize a tournament you are free to set what you like
    I was simply saying you would solve the problem.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    I think if you gave:
    0.5 point byes (max 3)
    If you have not used any Byes, you may use first one up to Round 7
    If you have used a bye, any after Round 5 are 0 point.
    of course if you organize a tournament you are free to set what you like

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    or people not registering for tournaments
    I think if you gave:
    0.5 point byes (max 3)
    If you have not used any Byes, you may use first one up to Round 7
    If you have used a bye, any after Round 5 are 0 point.

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
    Half point byes:
    downside - easy points, leading to wrong player winning prize
    upside - better pairing after ?
    Zero point byes:
    downside - nothing?
    Upside - players less likely to request byes, more likely to play

    seems like a no brainer to me.
    or people not registering for tournaments

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  • Alan Baljeu
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    Half point byes:
    downside - easy points, leading to wrong player winning prize
    upside - better pairing after ?
    Zero point byes:
    downside - nothing?
    Upside - players less likely to request byes, more likely to play

    seems like a no brainer to me.

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
    It doesn't affect you much, just enough to complain... ;)
    I'm a law student. We complain about everything. It comes with the territory. :P

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  • Jean Hébert
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    I'm not playing for Prize Money, so it doesn't really personally affect me much.
    It doesn't affect you much, just enough to complain... ;)

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  • Matthew Scott
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    Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
    Most people see how serious a problem is when they are personally affected by it but not a second before. On the other hand if they are benefitting from a certain situation they see no problem at all...
    I'm not playing for Prize Money, so it doesn't really personally affect me much. It does personally affect all of the U2000s, U1800s and U1600s though, only one of which currently has 4.5 (a U2000), and nobody else has over 4 in those groups.

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  • Jean Hébert
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    Originally posted by Matthew Scott View Post
    It sort of bothers me that a 1479 took 3 byes (Round 3, 6, 7) and will have 4.5 points, especially since while he's unlikely to win the category, 4.5 will put him in, at worst, second place after 7 rounds; and assuming the lower rated players lose, first.

    You shouldn't be able to take Byes this late in the tournament.
    Most people see how serious a problem is when they are personally affected by it but not a second before. On the other hand if they are benefitting from a certain situation they see no problem at all...

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