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No! You need to get away from the all-consuming ratings. Provincial championships are the way to go. Since when did any other "sport" reward ratings as opposed to real victories in the heat of the battle. Only in chess you say.......
But if one of the objectives of a championship is to have your best players competing for the top prize, then how do you accomplish this through provincial championships? For the sake of discussion, suppose that 7 of Canada's top 10 players by rating are domiciled in Ontario and Quebec. How would the provincial championship approach get more than 2 of these 7 into the Closed?
If your concerns include the possibility of players sitting on their ratings between championships, then an activity condition could be stipulated.
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A 12 player round robin with those conditions would cost around $30,000. That would cover accommodations, food, arbiter and have a prize fund of $5,000 plus another $1,500 or so towards the winner's expenses to the world cup.
... Since when did any other "sport" reward ratings as opposed to real victories in the heat of the battle. ...
But aren't ratings a reflection of real victories in the heat of battle? We don't have a limited 'regular season' in chess - our regular season just goes on and on - but couldn't chessplayers be compared very roughly to baseball teams (or any team sport for that matter)? For example, couldn't a baseball team's record (e.g. .562) at any point during a season be viewed as its rating? At the end of the season, the teams with the best ratings (in theory!!) move on to the playoffs; they don't select playoff participants geographically.
Last edited by Peter McKillop; Tuesday, 17th August, 2010, 12:11 AM.
Reason: because I'm brain-dead
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
How many of the Top-12 players can you realistically attract for a two week event with a $5000 total prize fund? The average prize will be around $415, which will not even cover airfare.
Since most of the Top-12 are already IMs you can't even use the titles as a drawing point, although if you get enough GMs in it you can have GM norms.
I always figured the magic number for this kind of event was around $50,000.
At the end of the season, the teams with the best ratings (in theory!!) move on to the playoffs; they don't select playoff participants geographically.
sure they do! they have American League East and West for instance.
sure they do! they have American League East and West for instance.
Good point, although I suspect the owners' reasons for creating divisions along geographical lines had more to do with increasing profits (reduced travel costs, higher attendance due to regional rivalries, etc.) than it did with taking an egalitarian approach to selecting playoff candidates; i.e. they accepted the risk of having a dud or two in the playoffs each year in favour of bigger bottom lines.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
If you look back at the Canadian Closed Crosstables since the start of the swisses in 1999, you will see that we are getting most of the top active players coming to the event at their own cost. If accomodations could be thrown in, I would think they would be all for that. I don't think there is much difference to those participating in staying two more days for an 11 round tournament. If this is held in the summer, should be even less of an issue for students.
Prized would likely be given to the top 3 finishers, something like $2,500, $1,500, $1,000 plus the first place finisher gets a spot in the world cup with at least $1,500 to cover expenses. Not a lot of cash but certainly a step in the right direction. When you consider that most of the players expenses are covered, this seems reasonable. Anyway, under the current format, the prize fund hasn't been that great either.
Going from 9 rounds to 11 rounds isn't a huge increase in time, is it?
Is there really no way to make an html table at this member-only-posting board? Quaint.
Here is what we're talking about, the formats of the Canadian Closed (since 1969). Stephen Wright's excellent Canadian Closed page ends at Kitchener 2007. (And the linked crosstable for 2004 didn't work for me, Stephen). Just one since then, Guelph 2009? Corrections gratefully received ...
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