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Current Canadian Champion
Runner-up from last Closed
Atlantic Provinces winner
Quebec winner
Ontario winner
Manitoba/Sask winner
Alberta winner
BC winner
4 from the rating list
The provinces would have to stage their own provincial championships. The format would be the responsibility of the province.
Maybe have another rating spot instead of Runner-up from last Closed, since the Swiss is really not very good in determining a second place, its much better in determining first.
Alternatively, perhaps a 10 player RR with no runner up and only 3 ratings spots would be better.
I think that we would also need enough time in advance to determine which ratings and which rating periods to use to determine the rating spots to avoid controversy.
If you look back at the Canadian Closed Crosstables since the start of the swisses in 1999, you will see that we are getting most of the top active players coming to the event at their own cost.
You can't be sure that players weren't given complimentary accommodation. That would be between the player and the, ah, private sponsor. I'd like to see figures, but my impression is that, since 1999, top players in the province where the Closed was held (usually Ontario) did show up, but that many of the top active players from other provinces (except Alberta, which is capable of subsidizing their representatives) did not. That regional disparity was not a factor under the old RR system, where players qualified from regions. There was a symbiotic relation between the regions and their representatives.
While I agree that a round robin tournament is the most prestigious format, I believe the swiss is more practical for few reasons:
1. Most (top) players are not 100% chess professionals - they are either still in school or follow their bread-earning careers in parallel. For most will be very difficult to find time to play preliminary stages at this level.
2. Financial advantages of the swiss was already discussed. Financial disadvantage to players is also important. More expenses with at least an extra step.
3. There is a a big pool of FMs, IMs and GMs, and not all of them will qualify automatically. Different criteria (some already advanced on this post) will bring more discussion and politics.
4. Not every player in Canadian Closed will play for the title I assume. Different people have different objectives. The swiss seems more of a win-win offer for players. The title will still be disputed between the best anyways.
5.The swiss format leaves little room for draws. In a round robin, friendly draws tend to happen given the tournament's dynamic.
6. If prestige is a concern, just raise the (lower) bar!
I much prefer the RR format. I don't mind the Swiss format, if it features only the best players.
How about something like:
12+ rounds (9 rounds is just too random)
2400 minimum rating
2350 if you are U18
2300 if you are U16
Max one exempted representative in provinces where there is no other representative.
Zero "local" (backdoored) representatives.
Maybe have a qualifier in each province (or combine smaller provinces) where they can send an extra representative but at least $1000 from each qualifier has to go into the general prize fund of the Closed. If they can't even come up with a measly grand, then they're out of luck.
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I much prefer the RR format. I don't mind the Swiss format, if it features only the best players.
How about something like:
12+ rounds (9 rounds is just too random)
2400 minimum rating
2350 if you are U18
2300 if you are U16
Max one exempted representative in provinces where there is no other representative.
Zero "local" (backdoored) representatives.
Maybe have a qualifier in each province (or combine smaller provinces) where they can send an extra representative but at least $1000 from each qualifier has to go into the general prize fund of the Closed. If they can't even come up with a measly grand, then they're out of luck.
I largely agree with this, especially with the first paragraph. Both ways, round robins and swisses have their plusses and minuses. But in both cases, the necessary efforts must be made to attract the best players (prize fund and conditions). Otherwise you dont really have a "national championship". In 2009 it was largely an Ontario Championship + myself. And it took several very fortunate (or unfortunate, depending...) circumstances for me to finally play in it. Besides, as everyone knows, you cannot have a real national championship without a fair amount of Quebec players. :)
I only find the rating requirements a bit harsh for juniors. I can't help but think about my first Canadian championship win in 1978, a 16 player round-robin with pretty much all the top active players of the time (Biyiasis, Spraggett, Day, Coudari, Piasetski, etc.). Then I was rated only 2157 and at 20, not a junior any more.
2157 then is 2400+ now - some other of those famous names you mention were under 2200 then
Ratings are all very fine until you put up the hard rating floors and see the results. For example, you could have had players like Aman Hambleton ineligible this year.
Here is the crosstable of the 1978 Closed - I assume the ratings are FIDE ratings (with 2200 used for previously unrated FIDE players).
That confirms with Bulletin/30.
However, the result of the game Coudari-Biyiasas is not the same. (1/2 in the Bulletin with explanation that the game result was appealed and the CFC Board of Governors decision is pending. 1/2 stands in Nick's Best too. What was the real decision? Where was Kevin Spraggett during the photoshot? :D
The crosstable on Stephen Wright's site has what I think are CFC ratings. Not clear if they are pre or post. Jean is 2197. Most FIDE ratings were higher than CFC ratings in those days.
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