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Very interesting developments in the case. I have been following the games of GM Feller for a while and always thought it was extremely impressive the way he manhandled many strong GM's flawlessly.
Very interesting developments in the case. I have been following the games of GM Feller for a while and always thought it was extremely impressive the way he manhandled many strong GM's flawlessly.
6/9 PFR:2708 and his rating is already 2649 that just seems like a good tournament for an already very strong player (though there is quite a bit of evidence after the fact I suppose), I wonder if the appeals that will take place will have any affect on the ruling.
Very interesting developments in the case. I have been following the games of GM Feller for a while and always thought it was extremely impressive the way he manhandled many strong GM's flawlessly.
Guilty as charged through overwhelming evidence. Bravo! French Federation. It is refreshing to see a chess federation do what has to be done, even if thoroughly unpleasant.
Very interesting developments in the case. I have been following the games of GM Feller for a while and always thought it was extremely impressive the way he manhandled many strong GM's flawlessly.
indicates that Jean-Claude Moingt, the President of the French Chess Federation, had attended the Olympiad in Khanty-Mansiysk, and goes on to say:
"in Khanty-Mansiysk security only searched the participants for weapons or explosives, but everyone was free to bring their mobile phone into the playing hall."
Guilty as charged through overwhelming evidence. Bravo! French Federation. It is refreshing to see a chess federation do what has to be done, even if thoroughly unpleasant.
From what are they banned? Playing in France and for France only, or from playing in all FIDE events?
I enjoy watching this. They used to laugh at correspondence chess for using computers and now it seems computers are a large problem in over the board play.
I notice Kevin's blog shows the prize money for the U.S. Championship and then mentions the Canadian Championship with a happy looking Chimp. Possibly it means the prize money for the Canadian Championship is Chimp change.
So Feller had his mobile phone with him when he was playing at the Olympiad. Was he constantly getting up from the board and walking away to check his SMS messages?
It's good to see that the French Federation dealt with this terrible situation in a clear and assertive manner.
The case should be referred to FIDE as well, since these incidents occurred in a FIDE event, the Olympiad.
Results involving the players in question from that event may need to be reviewed, and if necessary modified, now that the cheating has come to light.
It would be very interesting to see whether the defence claimed by the players with respect to the confidentiality of their SAS text messages (in non-criminal cases) under French law would apply with FIDE, since the cheating took place in Russia, not France. Does the protection accorded under French law extend internationally!? In any case, one could make a strong case for the matter being considered criminal in extent, since cheating is fraud (a felony in the US, and an indictable offence in Canada, for example), and potential gain of winning chess games, resulting in higher placing, possible medals, and gain in rating points (which has its own financial angle) seems an argument for placing the case under proper jurisdictional setting and statute.
I would also like to see possible forfeit of international titles for the players in question, as a penalty. This sends the right message, and should serve as a strong deterrant for future potential cheaters.
At least the French cheating chess players managed to escape the guillotine!!
:) :)
It's good to see that the French Federation dealt with this terrible situation in a clear and assertive manner.
The case should be referred to FIDE as well, since these incidents occurred in a FIDE event, the Olympiad.
Results involving the players in question from that event may need to be reviewed, and if necessary modified, now that the cheating has come to light.
It would be very interesting to see whether the defence claimed by the players with respect to the confidentiality of their SAS text messages (in non-criminal cases) under French law would apply with FIDE, since the cheating took place in Russia, not France. Does the protection accorded under French law extend internationally!? In any case, one could make a strong case for the matter being considered criminal in extent, since cheating is fraud (a felony in the US, and an indictable offence in Canada, for example), and potential gain of winning chess games, resulting in higher placing, possible medals, and gain in rating points (which has its own financial angle) seems an argument for placing the case under proper jurisdictional setting and statute.
I would also like to see possible forfeit of international titles for the players in question, as a penalty. This sends the right message, and should serve as a strong deterrant for future potential cheaters.
At least the French cheating chess players managed to escape the guillotine!!
:) :)
It will now be very interesting to see how FIDE will react to this for reasons that you are pointing out. Should the Olympiads results be reviewed ? Fide must be terribly embarrassed and upset by the French Federation's actions. Now the ball is in their backyard and it is a very hot one.
As a sometimes arbiter at the Olympiads, I've pointed out before that there is scant reason to allow the captains into the playing area. Certainly for all the years that pairings were Swiss and standings were by game points. It's a tradition.
In early 2007, Kramnik suggested a 15- or 20- minute delay on move transmission, which would make broadcast-based cheating more difficult. For the 2007 Canadian Open, I inquired of Mon Roi, who told me that the only way they could delay transmission would be to unplug the ethernet cable. Impractical.
Of course, you make cheating more difficult, cheaters become more resourceful.
The 2 players got suspended for 5 years, the captain who was orchestrating the whole thing and making signals gets a blame and a ban from being captain, two diferent weights, two diferent measures.
Last edited by Claude C; Tuesday, 22nd March, 2011, 10:44 AM.
It's good to see that the French Federation dealt with this terrible situation in a clear and assertive manner.
The case should be referred to FIDE as well, since these incidents occurred in a FIDE event, the Olympiad.
Results involving the players in question from that event may need to be reviewed, and if necessary modified, now that the cheating has come to light.
It would be very interesting to see whether the defence claimed by the players with respect to the confidentiality of their SAS text messages (in non-criminal cases) under French law would apply with FIDE, since the cheating took place in Russia, not France. Does the protection accorded under French law extend internationally!? In any case, one could make a strong case for the matter being considered criminal in extent, since cheating is fraud (a felony in the US, and an indictable offence in Canada, for example), and potential gain of winning chess games, resulting in higher placing, possible medals, and gain in rating points (which has its own financial angle) seems an argument for placing the case under proper jurisdictional setting and statute.
I would also like to see possible forfeit of international titles for the players in question, as a penalty. This sends the right message, and should serve as a strong deterrant for future potential cheaters.
At least the French cheating chess players managed to escape the guillotine!!
:) :)
I wondered how long it would take before you brought up extra-jurisdicitonal execution as a suitable punishment; the smiley face don't fool me Judge Dread Dixon.
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