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So in my last time (or so I plan) running a 1 day tournament in Windsor, I decide to go with a Pro-Am setup.
I get everyone registered, and games are off, awesome. 9 juniors, 6 pros, not too bad.
After the second of this 4 round tournament, a parent tells me that his son, in the juniors section, is 18!!!
Now logically, if he had told me this ahead of time, I completely wouldn't have accepted his son in the tournament. Adding just one adult to that junior section increases the ratings fee for the others by $20, not to mention the fact that 4 of them have expired memberships now means that each of those 4 should technically owe $27 for memberships.
I asked for an exception to some of the CFC rating regulations for this. Even after being told this guy was 18, I still couldn't see him looking over 15 when I look at his face.
After the second of this 4 round tournament, a parent tells me that his son, in the juniors section, is 18!!!
Junior for rating purposes: "The CFC membership requirement is waived for Junior events (tournaments or matches). An event is considered Junior for the purposes of this section if all the players meet the age requirements of the World Junior of the year following the year in which the event ends. [Updated; Keshet/Stockhausen 1999]"
According to the handbook http://chess.ca/section-2
"9. Any person ordinarily resident in Canada who is under the age of 18, shall be granted a Junior membership or a Junior Participating Membership."
Let's hope the rating supplementary regulations quoted by Egidijus take precedence. ;)
According to the handbook http://chess.ca/section-2
"9. Any person ordinarily resident in Canada who is under the age of 18, shall be granted a Junior membership or a Junior Participating Membership."
Let's hope the rating supplementary regulations quoted by Egidijus take precedence. ;)
I haven't seen any reference to this in the Handbook, but I seem to recall (although foggily) that the age for junior membership was changed to under 20 (not sure the exact details) a couple of years ago.
I asked for an exception to some of the CFC rating regulations for this. Even after being told this guy was 18, I still couldn't see him looking over 15 when I look at his face.
Didn't you ask for proof of age? Seniors are also often asked for proof of age when requesting a seniors discount. It's pretty standard.
I haven't seen any reference to this in the Handbook, but I seem to recall (although foggily) that the age for junior membership was changed to under 20 (not sure the exact details) a couple of years ago.
We have a junior prize at the GPO this year. When considering what this meant, I went to the CFC site for guidance - it's not given on the membership page where I would have expected to see it. The only number I found was the aforementioned 20 years somewhere.
It would be useful to have 'junior' defined on the membership page next to all those rates for juniors.
Didn't you ask for proof of age? Seniors are also often asked for proof of age when requesting a seniors discount. It's pretty standard.
For most of the participants of these University tournaments, there is no doubt. A few of the kids look older than they are because they are tall for their age but there is lots of room for error when you are talking about seven year olds.
We have a junior prize at the GPO this year. When considering what this meant, I went to the CFC site for guidance - it's not given on the membership page where I would have expected to see it. The only number I found was the aforementioned 20 years somewhere.
It would be useful to have 'junior' defined on the membership page next to all those rates for juniors.
Even as CFC Treasurer, I know there is some confusion here. I think what happened is that there was a motion that passed, but it was deemed to require a 2/3 Gov participation as a constitutional amendment (only 60% voted). I am going to have this cleared up at the Oct Governor's Meeting.
Denton: I think you are OK to submit your event as junior only.
Even as CFC Treasurer, I know there is some confusion here. I think what happened is that there was a motion that passed, but it was deemed to require a 2/3 Gov participation as a constitutional amendment (only 60% voted). I am going to have this cleared up at the Oct Governor's Meeting.
Denton: I think you are OK to submit your event as junior only.
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