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    Thought maybe this " Occupy " Protest deserved its own thread: This was on the CBC Website this morning before 9:00 AM EST:

    Members of Occupy Toronto are waiting for a Monday morning court decision, which will determine whether the protesters can stay in St. James Park.

    Superior Court Justice David Brown will rule at 9 a.m. whether the demonstrators can remain camped in the park, where their presence has been resented by some local business owners and residents. He is expected to issue a written decision by email.

    Officials from the City of Toronto want the protesters to leave, citing thousands of dollars in damage to the grass and the need to shut down the park for winter.

    Lawyers for each side presented arguments to Brown on Friday.

    Occupy Toronto organizers told a press conference Sunday that not everyone will agree to leave the park if the city eviction order, which was handed out last week, is upheld.

    Protesters who refuse to leave, including some who have nowhere else to go, should be granted sanctuary by the adjacent St. James Cathedral, the group said.

    Reporting early Monday morning, CBC's Jeff Semple said most Occupy Toronto protesters believe their time in the park near the corner of King Street East and Church Street is coming to an end.

    “Most don’t seem too optimistic about the judge’s decision," Semple reported. "The pervasive feeling here seems to be that the time is up. The feeling here is that when that decision comes down, it won’t be good news for Occupy Toronto.”

    The Occupy Toronto group has uncovered a 1959 land transfer agreement which they say shows the city controls the east side of the park while the church controls the other.

    But the dean of St. James Cathedral said Thursday the occupiers must heed the judge's decision.

    Although the church does own some of the land, Rev. Douglas Stoute said, it is up to the city to decide whether the protesters can stay. He also urged demonstrators to obey whatever ruling is handed down.

    Protesters who plan to stay in the park regardless of Monday's ruling were preparing for the worst.

    “Some say if they’re ordered to leave they will pack up and do so," Semple reported. "Others say they are not going anywhere and have been practising ways to peacefully resist.”

    Bob A

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    Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Evicted!

    CP24 Tweets:

    Judge [ Brown ] rules: “I conclude that the Trespass Notice is constitutionally valid. I dismiss the application. " + Judge says Occupy Toronto can still use the park in the daytime - but no tents. "Ample means left to express their message."


    " Const. Wendy Drummond tells CP24 police are discussing when to enforce eviction notice on OccupyToronto protesters. "

    From Protesters:

    " Protesters call for supporters to descend on St. James Park ".

    Bob A

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    • #3
      Re: Occupy Toronto Protest

      A judge has ruled that Occupy Toronto protesters must end their five-week long encampment at a downtown park.

      Superior Court Justice David Brown’s ruling, issued just after 9 a.m. on Monday, upholds eviction notices issued last week by city bylaw officers to protesters who have been camping at St. James Park since Oct. 15.

      Protesters had argued in court they had a constitutional right to camp in the park, which is located near the corner of King Street East and Church Street.

      However, Mayor Rob Ford and his allies on Toronto city council have said occupiers have had their say and that neighbours and businesses in the area want the protesters to leave.
      A computer beat me in chess, but it was no match when it came to kickboxing

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      • #4
        Re: Occupy Toronto Protest

        CP24 Tweets:

        Mayor Rob Ford will hold a news conference at 10:15 a.m. to discuss judge's ruling on OccupyToronto eviction.

        Protesters tell us that they will hold a general assembly at noon and again at 6 p.m. They vow to protect three areas of park.

        Bob A
        Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 21st November, 2011, 11:15 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Protesters' Lawyer/City Position

          Occupy Toronto Lawyer, Susan Ursel:

          "Important to note judge ruled what they're doing is protected activity." Her clients are "considering all options". She is waiting for word from her clients on whether or not to launch an appeaL

          City of Toronto
          Ford: "I'm asking the protesters to leave peacefully and I'd like them to leave as soon as possible."

          City manager: "Our staff is available immediately to help them move as quickly as possible and peacefully"

          Bob A
          Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 21st November, 2011, 11:38 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Occupy Toronto Protest

            It is time to pack up the tents and move the protest indoors, where it is nice and warm. The judge has made the correct ruling and it will actually help the movement. Reading the Toronto Star this morning, it is clear OWS does not have sufficient public support yet. Too bad. It has become an inconvenience for too many of the 99%'ers. The target should be to inconvenience the 1%'ers.

            Hopefully the tents can be packed up without violence. I hope the movement will not die out, but evolve.

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            • #7
              Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

              Bylaw states no one can be in park overnight starting at 12:01 a.m

              Wonder if that's when Toronto police will enforce Superior Court Justice David Brown's order?

              Bob A

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              • #8
                Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                Bylaw states no one can be in park overnight starting at 12:01 a.m
                Hard time for lovers :D

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                • #9
                  Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                  CP24 Tweet - 12:30 PM

                  Bylaw officers are said to be going to the park "soon" to explain the ruling to Occupy Toronto protesters.

                  Bob A

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                  • #10
                    Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                    "explain" the ruling? Hopefully in a different way than the "explanations" in NYC :p
                    Christopher Mallon
                    FIDE Arbiter

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                    • #11
                      Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Odd Subsequent Notice ?

                      CP24 Tweet - current

                      Police, bylaw enforcement officers putting up notices from the church reminding Occupy Toronto protesters they are not allowed to camp overnight.

                      Seems odd the notices are from the Church. Are all the tents on the St. James half of the park ( an old legal document surfaced showing the dividing line in the park between church and city ownership ). And why are they not giving notices about Superior Court Justice David Brown's judgement - is it because it merely denied the protester requested injunction that the city was not entitled to evict - so the city now just proceeds to enforce its rights? Since the notices of eviction were given last week - why can't they just enforce them without further notice? Though it is very good public relations to again warn the protesters, before forcible eviction.

                      Bob A

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                      • #12
                        Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                        Originally posted by Christopher Mallon View Post
                        "explain" the ruling? Hopefully in a different way than the "explanations" in NYC :p
                        Do you mean you want the explanation to be bilingual?
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #13
                          Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Some Protesters Hunkering Down

                          CP Tweet - 2:45 PM EST

                          While some protesters are packing up, others have chained themselves to their tents. Some in the park have put on masks.

                          It's looking like civil disobedience - peaceful non-violent resistance - may be in the offing ( I personally hope it will not be violent on the part of the protesters; I have nothing against peaceful civil disobedience if one feels compelled to do it by their principles; it's just that they then have to accept the consequences in the courts ). Let's hope the police do not engage in excessive force in making any arrests. We don't need to emulate the Occupy Wall Street evictions.

                          Bob A
                          Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 21st November, 2011, 04:59 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                            Do you mean you want the explanation to be bilingual?
                            No, truthful would be nice though. In other words don't tell them that they can pick up their stuff later when you are planning the whole time to just shred it on site.
                            Christopher Mallon
                            FIDE Arbiter

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                            • #15
                              Re: Occupy Toronto Protest - Eviction Timing ?

                              Originally posted by Christopher Mallon View Post
                              No, truthful would be nice though. In other words don't tell them that they can pick up their stuff later when you are planning the whole time to just shred it on site.
                              Truth is the first casualty of class warfare. I thought you knew that.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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