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  • The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 )

    The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 ).

    Q: There is some dispute about what, if any, responsibility the CFC Executive has in encouraging the 58 CFC governors attendance at the 2012 Winter Governors’ On-line Meeting ( starts Jan. 1, 2012 ) – barely more than 50% attended the 2011 Spring and Fall Meetings. Should the Executive be doing anything exceptional?

    A: The Executive may be the operational arm of the Governors, but the President is also the Chair of the Assembly of Governors. So the executive, in our view, have a definite role in getting as high governor attendance as possible ( sending out a few notices to all governors prior to the meeting, including the day prior; publishing the agenda at least a week prior to the meeting for governors and members [ and e-mailing it to all governors ]; giving notice to all governors of the start of the meeting on Jan. 1; daily bulletins on the main topics of interest each day [ to all governors, especially those who have not yet attended ]; notice of start of voting; prior notice of when voting will be closing ). This may be considered a bit onerous, but really would take little time, and could be done by a member of the executive other than the president or secretary, who do have their hands full with the meeting itself. CFC deserves to get as many governor opinions from across the country on issues as it can. After all, they are supposed to be running the ship!!

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    Re: The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 )

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 ).

    Q: There is some dispute about what, if any, responsibility the CFC Executive has in encouraging the 58 CFC governors attendance at the 2012 Winter Governors’ On-line Meeting ( starts Jan. 1, 2012 ) – barely more than 50% attended the 2011 Spring and Fall Meetings. Should the Executive be doing anything exceptional?
    No, nothing exceptional. It should be routine to fire a governor who is not performing. I once fired an elected tournament director and replaced him with a TD who was interested in performing the job.
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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      Re: The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 )

      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
      No, nothing exceptional. It should be routine to fire a governor who is not performing. I once fired an elected tournament director and replaced him with a TD who was interested in performing the job.
      Hi Gary:

      There is nothing in the Handbook re terminating a governor for non-performance of their duties. A prior grassroots group, the CFC Constitutional Coalition, instituted a motion to implement an activity rule on governors, and it never got passed.

      Hence we only have encouraging, threatening, cajoling, embarrassing etc. re recalcitrant governors.

      Bob

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      • #4
        Re: The CCC Post # 2 ( Week of Dec. 23 - 29/11 )

        Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
        Hi Gary:

        There is nothing in the Handbook re terminating a governor for non-performance of their duties. A prior grassroots group, the CFC Constitutional Coalition, instituted a motion to implement an activity rule on governors, and it never got passed.

        Hence we only have encouraging, threatening, cajoling, embarrassing etc. re recalcitrant governors.

        Bob
        There was no rule which allowed firing the tournament director. However, without someone to pair and direct the events it seemed like the thing to do.

        If a governor gets fired and replaced for inactivity what's the worst thing which can happen? Maybe the governor will come to Chess Talk and complain? Something else?
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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          Removal of CFC Governors

          Hi Gary:

          The issue is the quintessential Canadian Federal/Provincial conundrum.

          The governor is elected by the members of a province, and is representing that province. So if CFC should unilaterally dismiss a governor, the province will complain that they have lost some of their representation, and may oppose the dismissal. Some say only the province should be able to " recall " one of their governors. If the CFC is unhappy with a governor, but the province isn't, then the status quo of the deadwood governor maintains.

          Bob A

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            Re: Removal of CFC Governors

            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
            Hi Gary:

            The issue is the quintessential Canadian Federal/Provincial conundrum.

            The governor is elected by the members of a province, and is representing that province. So if CFC should unilaterally dismiss a governor, the province will complain that they have lost some of their representation, and may oppose the dismissal. Some say only the province should be able to " recall " one of their governors. If the CFC is unhappy with a governor, but the province isn't, then the status quo of the deadwood governor maintains.

            Bob A
            Hi Bob,

            I thought the issue is democracy and governance. The idea being the governor participate in providing governance so the members get a democratic federation. I can see no reason a province can not be asked to replace what you call a "deadwood governor" with someone who will participate.

            The province doesn't have to lose their represention but the CFC shouldn't lose the benefit of participating governors.

            Gary
            Gary Ruben
            CC - IA and SIM

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              Re: Removal of CFC Governors

              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
              Hi Bob,

              I thought the issue is democracy and governance. The idea being the governor participate in providing governance so the members get a democratic federation. I can see no reason a province can not be asked to replace what you call a "deadwood governor" with someone who will participate.

              The province doesn't have to lose their represention but the CFC shouldn't lose the benefit of participating governors.

              Gary
              Hi Gary:

              I think you are quite right. The proper course for CFC would be to contact the relevant provincial affiliate, present the case to them for non-activity of the governor in question, and request that they recall him/her, and send in a replacement for the balance of the term.

              The question a few of us governors have wrestled with in this scenario, is whether the CFC has to first give notice to the subject governor of the charge, and give him/her a chance to defend themselves in some type of CFC hearing, before the charge can be sent on to the province. It seems to me that likely this would be a fair process to the governor in question.

              Bob A

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              • #8
                Re: Removal of CFC Governors

                Leave the details to the province involved. Remember, it's not personal. The idea is to get a governor who will maintain what the organization considers a minimum level of activity.
                Gary Ruben
                CC - IA and SIM

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