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Yup, you're definitely the first person who comes to mind when I think of the word pleasant. :)Originally posted by ben daswani View PostShameless self-promotion on display here
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
If chess were supposedly a sport, activities such as checkers, go, Battleship and Connect 4 (among others) would be similarly classified as sports, due to striking similarities in terms of setting, gameplay, and other such attributes, wouldn't they?i rep back 3+Comment
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Wow that was a nasty run oni rep back 3+Comment
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
Hi Kevin:
Might the difference be the strictness of the actual competition conditions ( chess has recording, clock, arbiters, strict unbiased pairings system, etc. )? Can other " games " match this strict competition conditions, like we find in the Olympics?
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
Yes. Scrabble for example even has an ELO rating system and strict competitions. So does Go.Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
And it's not clocks, arbiters, pairing systems etc. that define what is a sport. A pick up basketball game in the schoolyard without supervision still qualifies as participating in sports.Comment
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The World Mind Games in 2011 included 5 "mind sports":Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
- Chess
- Chinese chess (Xiangqi)
- Go
- Checkers (Draughts)
- Bridge
Athletes competed in several events, including blitz, rapid, blindfold.
http://www.worldmindgames.net/en/Marcus Wilker
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So many other standard, and equally worthy, games come to mind. Why not include Japanese Chess (Shogi) or Scrabble, for instance?Originally posted by Marcus Wilker View PostAnything that can go wrong will go wrong.
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
Interesting point of view from Swiss GM Vadim Milov on Chess as art vs. as sport in the context of rapid time controls (from TWIC - October, 2002):Originally posted by Larry Castle View Post
http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/milovrap02.htmlMarcus Wilker
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
I think chess is multi-personality:
1. game
2. sport
3. art
- all at the same time, and completely meeting the definition of each! ( How's that for being provocative - putting Kasparov-Karpov in the same group as Picasso ! and Mozart! )
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Regarding Scrabble, there is a language problem. It may seem unbelievable to some, but not everyone plays it in English...Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View PostComment
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What about curling, golf, F1, shooting? Sport or not? Hockey is a game! Isn't it?Comment
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And in some languages, like Chinese, I can't imagine the game existing at all.Originally posted by Jean Hébert View PostMarcus Wilker
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
I completely agree. Far from disqualifying an activity, I would say that its being a game would make it more of a sport, not less. Individual activities like golf, diving, ski jumping, etc. lack some of the direct sporting competition of true games like hockey and chess.Originally posted by Denis Gauthier View Post
But it's not a matter of being more of a sport or less of a sport. All sports emphasize certain aspects and downplay others, and you get a picture of what sport is only by looking at them all together and seeing the "family resemblance." And each member adds something new to that family.
There wouldn't be much point in adding a new sport to the Olympics if it was exactly like others that are already there. New sports should have to argue for their significant difference from the others rather than their similarity, shouldn't they?Marcus Wilker
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Re: Chess: A Game or a Sport
Marcus wrote:
The Chinese are attempting it:And in some languages, like Chinese, I can't imagine the game existing at all.
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