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Is not Natalia, is this IT guy Peter Zhdanov who wrote the article. He is talking about double standards and he is posting Naka's picture with the kids..suggesting that was his opposition. I try posting this as a reply but is not there yet, maybe the IT needs to approve it?
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If you are such an avid follower of GM Nakamura twitter, maybe you know that he is spending some time in the best city in the world: Vancouver. The fact that he played in this tournament is about giving back to the local (chess) community. Accepting to play in this tournament raise the publicity of a chess tournament in a country where hockey is the main sport, where the organizing committee is made out of 100% people with regular jobs not chess professionals as in other countries. Do I need to mention that he will also make an appearance in July at the Canadian Youth Chess Championships in Vancouver? In a country when GM titles are in single digits, what GM Nakamura did was an act of grace and you article is just a comedy act.
People will always look for something to criticize. They used to criticize the pros for never playing in open events (apparently because they were protecting their rating), and now they criticize them for playing in open events (because apparently it's now an easy way to boost your rating).
There might be legitimate criticisms that could be leveled against the rating system and how ratings are used to select players into events, but there's no reason to criticize the players for anything.
As I said to Hikaru when I introduced him to all present at the beginning of the Grand Pacific Open: "Thank you for supporting chess in Victoria". He loves BC and wants chess to be popular here.
Hate is a very strong word! Nor do you hate on someone.
I don't mean she loathes or detests him. "Hating" in the slang sense of the word (indicated by the slang grammatical construction) can refer to petty criticism directed at someone more successful than oneself, with an insinuation of jealousy on the part of the "hater," or possibly that the hater is just trying to get attention for herself by putting someone else down, rather than by earning it through her own success. It also implies that it's the success of the one who's getting "hated on" that is attracting the hating, not the specific actions being criticized. And it also implies that her comments are hampering the love that might otherwise flourish. It's got a lot of connotations.
Plus she's tweeted about this at least three times already, plus she's got a new article posted on her blog site, plus she just finished putting down Kosteniuk for calling herself the Queen, so I think it's a fair "critique" to level at Pogonina, that she needs to stop sippin' on that Hatorade.
Andrei, that's not the reason why he played. To be honest I think most people in this thread are inexperienced and also biased so its unfortunate there's not much objectivity here. He is definitely not playing in a FIDE event to give back to the community. Simuls, camps, and lectures are ways to do that. The 400 pt FIDE rule is indeed a very attractive reason to play in this . Strong players can farm FIDE pts without risking hardly anything as when you play 500,600 pts down it is virtually guaranteed a victory. I myself have benefited from this type of rule most recently in Oklahoma. It was the main reason I played(gain fide) and I assure you that if you ask other strong players about it they will know exactly what I'm talking about. GM Paco Vallejo was criticized a lot a couple years ago for playing two small Italian tournaments where he gained a 2700 FIDE by beating up on 2000 players. I don't see why Nakamura can't be criticized after he made comments about others and decided to do it himself except to an even further extent.
Last edited by Eric Hansen; Wednesday, 11th April, 2012, 02:11 PM.
So you have added mind reading to your chess skills? With such an advantage you will soon be world champion I am sure! Or you might choose to admit that while your hypothesis is a reasonable one you don't actually know with certainty what was going on in his mind. Myself the only mind I can read is my own, and even that's spotty at best.
The 400 pt FIDE rule is indeed a very attractive reason to play in this . Strong players can farm FIDE pts without risking hardly anything as when you play 500,600 pts down it is virtually guaranteed a victory. I myself have benefited from this type of rule most recently in Oklahoma.
While you are right about how the current rating system is structured, the fact is that even one draw would have lost him rating points and quite possibly his #6 in world ranking. Sure the risk was slight, but nevertheless it is a risk. And it's not as if he's turning down high class events so far as I know. And six players got a good lesson in chess the best way possible.
Also, you leave out the possibility that he might have had other motives while also having this one. Myself, I am happy that he graced our town for a weekend and sorry I was so busy studying for my HAM certificate and taking the test on Monday that I was unable to get to the hotel to even observe. I can say that I often have more than one reason for doing things and I don't see why Nakamura can't have them as well.
Pogonina critiques Nakamura might have been the heading of this post. Hate is a very strong word! Nor do you hate on someone.
Oh give the kid a break and be cool and groovy. If every younger generation talked exactly like their elders we would all be going around talking like we were in a Shakespeare play. So chill out daddyo and enjoy the groove. Peace out.
Oh give the kid a break and be cool and groovy. If every younger generation talked exactly like their elders we would all be going around talking like we were in a Shakespeare play. So chill out daddyo and enjoy the groove. Peace out.
It is a pretty rating obsessed chess world right now. I can tell you things but you will never understand them anyways. Different generations and perspectives perhaps. I'm not a mind reader and I just speak what most people from a professional chess atmosphere would know. Sure there are always going to be other less significant motivations but that always applies and I am just not too comfortable with misconceptions being thrown around especially when this article is accurate .
The article and main topic of discussion still essentially revolves almost solely around the rating and ranking system. The risk was virtually zero for this event barring a loss. If a 2750 GM scores 4.5/5 vs 2100 opponents he will stand to lose only 1 point in total. Otherwise, If he wins them all he will gain 4 points. Therefore, a top GM will almost always be profitable from these kinds of tournaments unless you think it's probable or frequent that an amateur draws (or beats) with 2750s. The risk was extremely marginal to say the least.
Last edited by Eric Hansen; Wednesday, 11th April, 2012, 04:24 PM.
People will choose to believe whatever they wish to believe. One cannot change that. However, bringing joy to the many children, parents and the organizers while attempting to raise the profile of chess in British Columbia is what matters most and always will.
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