Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

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  • Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

    Who do you think will win the WC tie-break:

    Anand, in rapids
    Gelfand, in rapids
    Anand, in blitz
    Gelfand in blitz.
    Anand, in Armageddon
    Gelfand, in Armageddon
    32
    Anand, in rapids
    34.38%
    11
    Gelfand, in rapids
    12.50%
    4
    Anand, in blitz
    9.38%
    3
    Gelfand in blitz.
    6.25%
    2
    Anand, in Armageddon
    3.13%
    1
    Gelfand, in Armageddon
    3.13%
    1
    It's been so boring I won't even watch.
    31.25%
    10

    The poll is expired.


  • #2
    Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

    It seems to me that if the world championship of chess is decided in this manner, everyone loses.

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    • #3
      Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

      The biggest risk here is one player will unveil a novelty the other happens not to be prepared for. Then a week of analysis will be pitted against 25 minutes of over-the-board thought, resulting in a quick kill.

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      • #4
        Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

        Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
        It seems to me that if the world championship of chess is decided in this manner, everyone loses.
        The format was doomed from the beginning (12 game match is too short).
        ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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        • #5
          Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

          Looks like the top players are OK with the format. I have not heard of any strong opposition with regards to tie-breaks format. Having an European champion few years ago who won the title after his opponent blundered a rook in a blitz tie-break did not worry anybody at the top. It's up to the top players...they compare themselves with Fischer or Kasparov, or they compare themselves with Ponomariov and Khalifman...

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          • #6
            Tie Breaks

            Get used to it.
            The organizers/sponsors quite naturally want some assurance of an unequivocal result within a fixed period of time. As for the players, the top guys are fine with it according to the folks I have talked to.
            It is the same in other sports---the shootout in hockey or soccer.
            Thre will be those of us who regret the passing of a more relaxed age when games and matches could go on for ever but those times are past.
            I do agree that 12 games seems unnecessarily abrupt. The old 24 or even 16 would be preferable. But if the result were only to see four more mind-numbingg draws....

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            • #7
              Re: Tie Breaks

              Originally posted by Gordon Ritchie View Post
              Get used to it.
              The organizers/sponsors quite naturally want some assurance of an unequivocal result within a fixed period of time. As for the players, the top guys are fine with it according to the folks I have talked to.
              It is the same in other sports---the shootout in hockey or soccer.
              Thre will be those of us who regret the passing of a more relaxed age when games and matches could go on for ever but those times are past.
              I do agree that 12 games seems unnecessarily abrupt. The old 24 or even 16 would be preferable. But if the result were only to see four more mind-numbingg draws....
              A really good idea that some have suggested is to play the tiebreaks before the long games.

              For very obvious reasons, at least one of the players is going to take some huge risks if they know that they have to win the regular time control match.

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              • #8
                Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                This was the worst world championships match in recent history. I can't even watch anymore. Gelfand wins cause Anand sucked and Anand won cause Gelfand trapped his queen... like oh god this is so effing awful... I'm so glad I'm working right now and not listening to ICC commentary while watching the games live.
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                • #9
                  Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                  Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
                  This was the worst world championships match in recent history. I can't even watch anymore. Gelfand wins cause Anand sucked and Anand won cause Gelfand trapped his queen... like oh god this is so effing awful... I'm so glad I'm working right now and not listening to ICC commentary while watching the games live.
                  This has been the greatest World Championship match in history. Why?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                    Reminds me of Newman!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                      More than 12 games would be nice, but I seem to recall the previous 12-game match, between Anand and Topalov, having several more decisive games, with the draws played all the way out. This was credited to Topalov's "uncompromising" style... so, what can we say about Gelfand's and Anand's "compromsing" styles? I am not so concerned about the lack of decisive games as I am by the fact that only one of the draws was played all the way out.

                      It seems to me that the challenger should have to beat the champion in slow games, and that speeding play up cheapens the title of world chess champion. But given this, I agree with those who suggest that the fast games should be played first, so that at least the onus is on somone to win.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                        Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
                        Reminds me of Newman!

                        Which one? Paul or Alfred E. ?


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                        • #13
                          Re: Tie Breaks

                          Originally posted by Nicolas Haynes View Post
                          A really good idea that some have suggested is to play the tiebreaks before the long games.

                          For very obvious reasons, at least one of the players is going to take some huge risks if they know that they have to win the regular time control match.
                          I think that idea makes a lot of sense. I assume that you'd have to have a second set of tiebreaks, after the long games, if the loser of the initial tiebreaks caught up during the long games. But even so, at least you'd be going into the long games with pressure on one of the players to play aggressively.
                          "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
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                          • #14
                            Re: Tie Breaks

                            Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
                            I assume that you'd have to have a second set of tiebreaks, after the long games, if the loser of the initial tiebreaks caught up during the long games.
                            There's no catching up. The winner of the pre-match tie breaks gets draw-odds in the main match.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Poll: Anand or Gelfand in tie-breaks

                              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                              Which one? Paul or Alfred E. ?


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                              The Seinfeld character.

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