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Anton's flag still shows Argentina because they have officially objected to Anton's transfer. Their objection period (and their compensation entitlements) expire in May 2013. Anton's transfer will take effect no later than July 10.
I assume based on this that he only took residence in Canada as of May 2011 (since according to FIDE handbook, the previous federation only has compensation rights if the player has been in the new country for less than 2 years)?
I'm also curious about this : "the player must not have represented the old federation in a FIDE event in the previous two years prior to the application; otherwise the date of residency starts from the last date of representation for the old federation."
What constitutes "representing the old federation" - playing any FIDE event, or only playing as a representative of the national federation?
I'd add - changing your country affiliation with FIDE is a bureaucratic mess. I tried (and failed) to do it while I was living in Costa Rica.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that I was listed as being under the USA flag on the FIDE rating list. I emailed FIDE, and it was changed to Canada within a couple of days - no questions asked. :-)
Anton's flag still shows Argentina because they have officially objected to Anton's transfer. Their objection period (and their compensation entitlements) expire in May 2013. Anton's transfer will take effect no later than July 10.
Hal,
What do "compensation entitlements" refer to?
Thanks, Jordan
No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.
This may have changed, but I recall that Hal had found out from FIDE that we can run a Zonal even every year (with norms/titles). We would just have to decide which one does or does not qualify someone for the World Cup and/or Continentals.
I'm also curious about this : "the player must not have represented the old federation in a FIDE event in the previous two years prior to the application; otherwise the date of residency starts from the last date of representation for the old federation."
What constitutes "representing the old federation" - playing any FIDE event, or only playing as a representative of the national federation?
Official FIDE events count; any old FIDE rated event does not. So basically World Cup, Olympiad, WYCC, World Junior, etc...
Otherwise, the player in question would not be allowed to play rated chess for two years...
Basically, if we wanted him sooner (say we wanted him on our olympiad team this year!) we could pay his old federation a transfer fee. The fee is set by FIDE based on the strength and title of the player. This is on top of the 250 Euros basic fee to transfer federations.
For Kovalyov, a GM, the transfer fee is 5000 Euros within the first 12 months, or 3500 Euros from 13-24 months. This money goes to FIDE. This is only with the consent of Argentina.
Since such consent was not given, on top of the transfer fee we would have to pay a compensation fee to the Argentine Chess Federation. Since he's a GM rated from 2600-2699, that fee would be 30,000 Euros.
So you can probably see why they decided to just wait out the two years rather than pay...
Thanks Chris - I might have used as few regrettable adjectives. As David O. stated, Fed transfers can be bureaucratic. I filed for Anton on July 1, 2011. FIDE later told me they didn't like the compilation, so I filed again. I was told that I punched the clock on July 1 but maybe they have altered their opinion since. In any case, the World Cup in August 2013 is the critical event, and for sure Anton will be a FIDE Cannuck (FC) by then ;-)
30,000 Euros? It almost sounds like the country has the right to punish a player just for moving!
As usual, FIDE is always on the side of whoever is paying. Justification means nothing to FIDE as long as they will allow someone to pay their way out of an unjust situation.
Thanks for the explanations!
No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.
Normally the Federation who wants a strong player in a hurry gains something at the expense of the other Federation, so this compensation fee schedule was set up to protect a Fed who invests in the development of a player. If the player moves, and sits out for 2 years the fee vanishes.
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