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some data on tournament sizes in Canada for those who are interested....
Top 5 places are taken by Hart House and Victoria (!).
CFC events only, and tournament size for multi-sectional events was determined by considering consecutively numbered events in the CFC database with the same date & TD to be one event. So, occasionally this is maybe not correct (e.g. Canadian Senior Championship got lumped in with the Canadian Amateur, possibly some events are not entered consecutively, people playing in more than one section get counted twice)
Largest non-junior events Sept.31 2011-Sept. 31 2012
rank
Tournament
# players
1
2012 Labour Day at Hart House
159
2
2012 Canadian Open Ch
157
3
2011 Hart House Holidays
132
4
2012 Hart House Reading Week
127
5
6th Annual Grand Pacific Open
120
6
2012 Toronto International
114
7
Ridout Memorial Swiss
105
8
2011 SCC Falling Leaves
103
9
2012 Jack Frost Swiss
101
10
2012 SCC Ch
101
Largest junior events Sept.31 2011-Sept. 31 2012
rank
Tournament
# players
1
Val Rita 2012 CYCC Qual Secondaire
254
2
3e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire
254
3
2012 YCC Franco-ontarien Secondaire
223
4
2012 Canadian Youth Ch
193
5
2012 OYCC
188
6
2e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire
154
7
2012 OHSCC
154
8
2012 BCYCC
92
9
2011 BC Junior Ch
81
10
PMCA
77
Some graphs....
Last edited by Roger Patterson; Friday, 26th October, 2012, 05:15 PM.
Top 4 tournaments in Quebec, in this period, were :
Quebec Open (277) (410 if counting all the events at the same dates, but some players played in more than one)
Mauricie Open (219)
Montreal Open (163)
Père-Noel (119).
All these tournaments, except for the Mauricie Open, had their top sections CFC and FIDE rated. Both the Mauricie Open and the Montreal Open had a severe drop in their size this year.
Last edited by Felix Dumont; Friday, 26th October, 2012, 05:31 PM.
2012 Windsor Chess Challenge approximately 1400 kids. Unfortunately this year's tournament will be about half of that due to the public school teachers work to rule campaign. Thank you Dalton McGuinty for the gifts that keep on giving.
A plot of the data in the original post as a cumulative distribution.
We can see that close to 80% of all events rated by the CFC are less than 25 people.
From other work I had known that a huge percentage of the events & players for the CFC are junior events (not to mention the CMA activity) but the amount of activity in such small events comes as a surprise to me.
some data on tournament sizes in Canada for those who are interested....
Top 5 places are taken by Hart House and Victoria (!).
CFC events only,
Largest junior events Sept.31 2011-Sept. 31 2012
rank
Tournament
# players
1
Val Rita 2012 CYCC Qual Secondaire
254
2
3e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire
254
3
2012 YCC Franco-ontarien Secondaire
223
4
2012 Canadian Youth Ch
193
5
2012 OYCC
188
6
2e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire
154
7
2012 OHSCC
154
8
2012 BCYCC
92
9
2011 BC Junior Ch
81
10
PMCA
77
Using only CFC is very misleading as more are cma rated. I noticed the omission of Corinna Wan's Ontario Girls' Ch. Francis has been doing an incredible job running monthly cma tournaments of over 100 players, as well as Leslie Armstrong handling large Chess Challenge qualifiers outside of Toronto. Are there more 100 player cma-rated junior events out of Quebec? I couldn't find them on the cma rating list.
1 Windsor Chess Challenge "1400"
2 Ontario Chess Challenge 427
3 Quebec Chess Challenge 344
4 New Brunswick Chess Challenge 280
5 Val Rita 2012 CYCC Qual Secondaire 254
6 3e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire 254
7 Mississauga Chess Challenge Qual 234
8 YCC Franco-ontarien Secondaire 223
9 York Region Chess Challenge Qual 209
10 Canadian Youth Ch (Vancouver) 193
11 Ontario Youth Ch (Kitchener) 188
12 Grand Prix 2 184
13 BC Chess Challenge 180
14 Ontario Teams Ch (cma) 168
15 Halloween Regular Scholastic 167
16 Grand Prix 1 160
17 2e tournoi de la ligue Secondaire 154
18 Ontario High School Ch 154 (148)
19 Grand Prix 3 149
20 February Scholastic 149
21 Toronto Chess Challenge Qmar 147
22 Ontario Girl's Ch 146
23 Simcoe County Optimist Chess Challenge (Barrie) 144
24 Christmas Regular Scholastic 135
25 Team Tournament (Welland) 134
26 Canadian Chess Challenge (Halifax) 118
27 Toronto Chess Challenge Qapr 107
Last edited by Erik Malmsten; Saturday, 27th October, 2012, 07:53 PM.
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2012 Windsor Chess Challenge approximately 1400 kids. Unfortunately this year's tournament will be about half of that due to the public school teachers work to rule campaign. Thank you Dalton McGuinty for the gifts that keep on giving.
I believe London gets about 1500 players for their annual "grade-by-grade" tournament, organised by Mon-Fai Lee.
The London organisers seem to have no interest in having their kids connect to the wider world of chess, whether the CMA Chess Challenge or the CFC Youth Championships.
There were six tournaments leading to this Qualification. (Those tournaments were not rated.)
Code:
Aurora 253
Markham/Thornhill 244
Richmond Hill 221
Vaughan 191
Newmarket 174
Keswick 107
Total 1190
I wonder why not cma rated? Toronto DSB has over 1,000 players in 4 regionals then 120 in a final which is also not rated. Windsor and London have massive tournaments, unrated.
Do Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Hamilton and other cities have large school tournaments, possibly unrated?
London just seems to do its own thing - Mon-Fai Lee has never replied to my emails.
In the case of Windsor, for at least 95% of the players, the annual Chess Challenge is the only time they will play tournament chess. The ratings wouldn't be of much use, why pay the rating fee. In addition, Windsor uses its own pairing system, which is time-consuming to convert to traditional systems.
Do Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Hamilton and other cities have large school tournaments, possibly unrated?
Ten years ago, Cornwall used to get 600 or so for their annual inter-schools event. Don't know if that event continues.
Edit: Cornwall apparently reached a high of 872 players in 1997. Starting in 2000 was split to two events, March and November. http://www.audiapason.ca/page25/index.html
Last edited by John Coleman; Sunday, 28th October, 2012, 11:10 AM.
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