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The organizer of a couple of the "suspicious" IM norm events was GM Sinisa Drazic, who was subsequently "dismissed" (in 2011) by the Serbian federation. He seems to be playing regularly (inside and outside of Serbia) - rating in the 2480-2520 range since 2000.
Controversial Sinisa Drazic, was dismissed at the extraordinary session of the Executive Board ŠS Serbia. Vojvodina, whose Drazic staff, will seek justice in court
Serbian national team coach in chess, a controversial Sinisa Drazic, was dismissed at the special session and ŠS Serbia. In vdstatusu Dražića was succeeded by fellow title, experienced grandmaster Bosko Abramovic, who has performed the role of coach in more than one term.
Grandmaster Drazic was dismissed because of "broken relations caused by the national team camp," as outlined in the reasons for the decision. Against his dismissal were the only representatives ŠS Vojvodina, whose Drazic staff. With the coming of this notice and will seek a final epilogue to the court because the alleged Drazic vanstatutarno removed.
At last year's Olympiad in Khanty-Mansiysk, Serbian national team suffered a debacle that outcome-permanent and potential team members mostly announced further boycott if Drazic remain supreme. The former coach was criticized on taking office power politics, unworthy behavior during the competition, public insults inflicted on the wrong players and even ridiculous competitive tactics with which the team played.
Besides an all time personal best may not truly reflect a player's every day playing strength; if it did they would tend to stay at their PB and be rated there today. Instead some of these players are below these ratings today. One tournament, some blunders by opponents or just small errors or a novelty put to good use and suddenly you are at an all time high PB. I think we've all experienced this phenomenon in our own ratings history.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Wednesday, 1st May, 2013, 01:33 PM.
I never heard about that before. According to the FIDE website, he played in Serbia, Croatia and Rumania. Are these corrupted chess countries?
At any rate, I have to admit that his ICC rating is a lot less than his FIDE rating, but there are quite a few IMs rated between 1800-2000 on ICC.
Thanks for the link Hugh, I love this quote:
"So, you know, there’s [also] that guy Crisan from Romania that is over 2600, and he played in one Grandmaster tournament and scored one out of ... I think he scored a half out of nine. And he couldn’t draw with a Philidor rook-and-pawn endgame, something you would expect an expert to know how to do. For Grandmasters, it's nothing to even think about ... there’s quite a few examples like this where there's really flagrant violations ... at that meeting there was a player from Canada, Valerian Adam, and he was 65 years old and he played in Canada for 30 years and his highest rating was about 2300. And then all of a sudden he plays in like four or five tournaments. Bing, bing, he makes several IM norms in a row. His international rating is like 2420 and ... there's really not much that Mikko can do if the federations sign off on it. Unless there’s like a smoking gun, he’s kind of helpless. So that was kind of depressing in a way. Also, I mean, FIDE is probably like a lot of international organizations. There’s just, you know, a lot of stuff going on."
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A very interesting interview - lots of good ideas in there about choosing a team captain and the value of the chemistry between players and with the captain... The CFC could learn many things from that interview.
at that meeting there was a player from Canada, Valerian Adam, and he was 65 years old and he played in Canada for 30 years and his highest rating was about 2300. And then all of a sudden he plays in like four or five tournaments. Bing, bing, he makes several IM norms in a row. His international rating is like 2420
I am not convinced. For me, having a long-established CFC rating of 2300 is not incompatible with getting a 2420 FIDE rating based on only a few tournaments. It is not like the guy had a CFC rating of 1600...
Anyway, I had no idea about all this, and did not post my message to bring controversy. I just happened to narrowly win our little match on ICC (+3 -2 =1), and whether he is a real IM or "only" a 2300 CFC-rated player, I am quite happy with the result.
I am not convinced. For me, having a long-established CFC rating of 2300 is not incompatible with getting a 2420 FIDE rating based on only a few tournaments. It is not like the guy had a CFC rating of 1600...
We can give him the benefit of doubt, but statistically speaking, the month in which he scored his IM norms is beyond an outlier. The odds of that happening are incredibly low.
No games, no scoresheets, minimal details on the events, organizer has been banned by his own federation etc.
I would bet a lot of money on this being bogus.
At the very least, they could show the games. That way we would have a better idea of the level of play during these events.
We can give him the benefit of doubt, but statistically speaking, the month in which he scored his IM norms is beyond an outlier. The odds of that happening are incredibly low.
No games, no scoresheets, minimal details on the events, organizer has been banned by his own federation etc.
I would bet a lot of money on this being bogus.
At the very least, they could show the games. That way we would have a better idea of the level of play during these events.
That's all pretty circumstantial. He has a right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise. It's up to the accusers to prove their case and not on him to prove he is innocent. So if someone wants to file a complaint with FIDE I would imagine that they can.
That's all pretty circumstantial. He has a right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise. It's up to the accusers to prove their case and not on him to prove he is innocent. So if someone wants to file a complaint with FIDE I would imagine that they can.
I totally agree with you. No saying he's guilty at all.
But if I was in this exact position, I would publish the games so everybody could see that I have nothing to hide and I was just on a very good stretch.
I totally agree with you. No saying he's guilty at all.
But if I was in this exact position, I would publish the games so everybody could see that I have nothing to hide and I was just on a very good stretch.
I am not convinced. For me, having a long-established CFC rating of 2300 is not incompatible with getting a 2420 FIDE rating based on only a few tournaments. It is not like the guy had a CFC rating of 1600...
Anyway, I had no idea about all this, and did not post my message to bring controversy. I just happened to narrowly win our little match on ICC (+3 -2 =1), and whether he is a real IM or "only" a 2300 CFC-rated player, I am quite happy with the result.
I understand Louis but to me, the likelihood of him performing like an IM over a short time frame and attaining all the norms when his highest ever rating in his lifetime is 2300 is just so extremely unlikely. I'm too lazy to perform actual calculations but his performance must definitely be over 3 standard deviations above his mean.. I believe that if you plot a person's chess level with X-axis as time and Y-axis as rating, the graph would look kind of like a reverse U-shape. Starts low at the beginning, steady rise and peak at somewhere in the 20-30 age category and steadily declines afterwards. I doubt he is anywhere close to 2300 strength at the age of 75 especially with a blitz rating of 1900 on ICC.
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