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...when Reshevsky also managed to save a very bad endgame, two pawns down, into a draw, in the last round against IM Al Horowitz, he and Horowitz had tied. Their playoff match went to Reshevsky. Despite the incident, Denker and Reshevsky remained good friends, although there was an interruption after this incident.
Reshevsky did not tie with Al Horowitz; he tied with Isaac Kashdan. The playoff match was won by Reshevsky, 7 1/2 to 3 1/2 (Chess Review, January 1943). Still, the Denker forfeit incident was shameful conduct by Reshevsky.
Jan Gustafsson and Lawrence Trent are commentating on the games of the Bilbao Masters 2015. With only two games they have a lot of airtime to kill.
During the game Ding Liren – Anish Giri in Round 3, Ding plays 24.b4 and Jan says, “It is one of my rules, ‘Don’t play b4 before b4 is any good’”
This move becomes a running joke which continues for several minutes – much like one of those Abbott and Costello interchanges in their old movies.
Lawrence says that during the New York 1924 tournament, Tartakower visited the Bronx Zoo and encountered Suzan the orangutan. The next day, in the 4th round, he played 1.b4 against Maroczy and called it the Orangutan. (It was a draw) Some people today call it the Polish or Sokolsky.
Yes, Dan Scoones is right, and I realized this a few minutes after I posted. Thank you for the correction.
Reshevsky defeated Al Horowitz in a U.S. Championship match in 1941, not in 1942, as I wrote. In 1942, Reshevsky defeated Isaac Kashdan in a U.S. Championship match, as Mr. Scoones pointed out. The incident involving Reshevsky, Denker and the TD Stephens is correct, however; described in the great book "The Bobby Fischer I Knew And Other Stories." Also correct is: Reshevsky saved an endgame two pawns down against Horowitz in the last round of the 1942 event, creating the tie with Kashdan.
"He couldn't see a mate through a telescope!" :) Maurice Wertheim (1886-1950; one of his favourite kibitzing comments!)
Wertheim was a very wealthy banker with a strong philanthropic bent. He bankrolled much of U.S. chess during the 1940s, including matches and U.S. Championship tournaments. He enjoyed both correspondence and over-the-board chess, and was probably at least First Category strength as a player. Wertheim found new quarters for the Manhattan Chess Club, paying much of the cost himself, in a fancy Manhattan neighbourhood. He put together ideas for both the 1945 USA vs USSR Radio Match, and the trip taken by the USA team to Moscow to challenge the USSR, in Sept. 1946, as ways of trying to thaw the Cold War, and paid the costs himself.
Wertheim donated his large eastern Long Island wilderness property to the U.S. government for a nature preserve. After his death in 1950, his estate donated his large collection of Impressionist paintings to the Fogg Museum at Harvard (his alma mater, class of 1906).
The Georgian GM, Baadur Jobava, has an amusing answer to the query, "Don't you think that a coach is essential?"
"Books are your coach. Botvinnik is your coach. Alekhine is your coach. Having a trainer is good but not everyone can afford it. So many books are available out there, and if you are ready to use your brain then you can learn from them. Coaches will teach you from those very books and charge you money for it. Why do you want to do that?"
Jan Gustafsson is the lone commentator in the final round of Bilbao Masters 2015. The last game, after two hours, is Ding Liren vs Vishy Anand, which has no bearing on the ultimate winner.
It is Sunday and the coffee shop in the Hamburg studios of chess24 is closed, so Jan had to walk two blocks during the break to buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Back again, he sits down at the desk, uncaps his paper cup, glances at the electronic board, where the pieces are unmoved and says:
Up ‘til now, the status quo is unchanged
Last edited by Wayne Komer; Sunday, 1st November, 2015, 01:33 PM.
"The good player is always lucky." :) (Dr. Siegbert Tarrasch, 1862-1934, one of the world's top players from the late 1890s into the 1920s, and a highly respected chess author and teacher.)
"Mine is the only correct defense to the Queen's Gambit." (Dr. Siegbert Tarrasch. He was referring to the Tarrasch Defense: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5. This statement generated furious debate for years! Now, more than 100 years after he first popularized this variation, there are a multitude of 'correct' and playable defenses to the Queen's Gambit, including the Tarrasch, which was considered suspect for quite a while until GM Boris Spassky used it very effectively in several games of his 1969 World Title match against defender GM Tigran Petrosian, taking the title away. GM Garry Kasparov also used it to good effect in his climb towards the World Title in the early 1980s.)
In the years 1946 to 1956 Reshevsky was probably the strongest player in the world. If he had played a match with Botvinnik he would have become world champion - Bobby Fischer. Even the great Bobby was sometimes wrong.
Larsen and Bertok spent three days analyzing their adjourned game in Vinkovci. In the meantime, they both lost against Szabo, blaming those analyses, and the efforts connected with them, for Szabo’s wins.
There is another curious aspect in the case: the Larsen-Bertok game was objectively a draw; what is more, they both reached that conclusion on the basis of corresponding analyses. During the adjournment, however, Bertok suddenly saw some phantoms, gave up the main prepared line in favour of an improvised one, and lost.
(WK-Larsen won the tournament).
Vinkovci 1970
Bertok, Mario – Larsen, Bent
A84 Dutch Defense
The only thing I can think of is that, when the game resumed after adjournment, Bertok played a losing line, which was not recorded.
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I have checked Vlad Dobrich’s Chess Canada for November 1970 and find the identical story but no game score. Larsen’s column for that month concerned Taimanov-Larsen 0-1
there is a photo and this comment, which says that the moves after resumption of play hadn’t been published as recently as 2011:
Picture of the legendary game Bertok-Larsen in 1970 in Vinkovci, which unfortunately to this day has not been published in full ... Bertok lost even though it was overwhelming ...
If you click on the numbers at the bottom of the page they have some lovely photos. I rather like [70] of a Maroczy simul
there are also vintage pictures of Alekhine, Capablanca and Fischer if you keep going down the thread. [76] has Fischer playing Petrosian blitz in Moscow at the Central Chess Club in 1958.
"Not bad for a dead man, don't you think?" :) (Spectator comment from Tbilisi, 1969, referring to the game Mikhail Tal -- Alexei Suetin (see below).
Tal had been suffering for years from a bad kidney, and this had cost him dearly in many tournaments during the 1960s. His condition became so serious that he finally had the kidney removed by operation, in Tbilisi in late 1969. Following the operation and a period of recovery in the hospital, a false rumour started circulating (and was published in certain newspapers) that Tal had actually died in hospital. The rumour reached Yugoslavia, where some of Tal's friends were performing as part of a dance company. He describes the farcical situation in his amazing book "The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal", which covers his career up to 1975. Tal responded with "The rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated", borrowing a great line from the American writer Mark Twain, who suffered a similar episode! Tal actually won the Tbilisi tournament, and one of the key games was this miniature against GM Suetin, where Tal sacrificed his Queen to force mate! :)
"Touch the pawns before your King with only infinite delicacy." (Anthony Santasiere, 1904-1977, strong American Master, in US top 15 from late 1920s to mid 1950s, and a prolific (and not always diplomatically courteous) writer, on chess and other subjects).
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