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  • Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post

    I just got back from a walk to the Hill, Friday night at 11:00pm. It is a huge party with beers and joints being liberally passed about, high fives, screams of "freedom", "liberty" and "fuck Trudeau". Thousands of people and parked trucks, cars and campers. Police standing around watching, everyone well behaved to this point. I ran into Maxime Bernier on the sidewalk right in front of Parliament, said bonjour Monsieur Bernier, ca va?, and shook his hand.
    Saw a trucker interviewed on CBC News tonight. He said he had a 30 day supply of food in his cab! Some interesting times ahead for Ottawa. :)
    "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
    "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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    • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
      i already posted this in another thread.
      https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/11/08...ffective-move/

      In addition, I pointed out that Japan has used Ivermectin in various regions since May of 2020 and throughout this scamdemic had very few deaths.


      https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/choken/kij...18-OYT8T50030/ (Internet Archive)
      https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/choken/kij...27-OYT8T50019/ (Internet Archive)
      https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQ...20C21A1000000/ (Internet Archive)
      https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/000646531.pdf (Internet Archive)
      https://lecourrierdesstrateges.fr/2021/08/30/le-japon-prend-partie-pour-livermectine-dans-.. (Internet Archive)
      https://twitter.com/brenontheroad/st...12472958685186 (Internet Archive


      Several of the references above are in Japanese, in as previous thread the poster complained that he did not know Japanese, apparently, he was unfamiliar with google translate.

      https://translate.google.com/

      I'll try to slog my way through this on the weekend. Hopefully the answer to my question is in there somewhere. In the meantime here's some reading for you regarding ivermectin usage in Japan and India.

      https://www-thestar-com.cdn.ampproje...and-india.html
      "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
      "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
      "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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      • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

        I'll try to slog my way through this on the weekend. Hopefully the answer to my question is in there somewhere. In the meantime here's some reading for you regarding ivermectin usage in Japan and India.

        https://www-thestar-com.cdn.ampproje...and-india.html
        The Toronto Star article neither proves or disproves the hypothesis that Ivermectin was responsible for Japan's and the Indian State of Uttar Pradesh's success. However Ivermectin has been used successfully for many decades against many diseases and is one of the safest drugs in the world. So, even if the above hypothesis was correct in the Star article that I highly doubt, as I have been saying for two years now interfering with a Dr's right to try a medically harmless compound is a true international crime against humanity and finally, this case is with the ICC,

        I do see many factual errors in the Toronto Star article but I am getting sick of debunking pharma-sponsored propaganda. I pray to see the day that these pharma corrupted health bureaucrats, pharma executives, and corrupted politicians are hung for crimes against humanity.

        That day may not be so far away
        https://www.docdroid.com/WUjv6iw/icc-complaint-7-1-pdf

        https://pjhlaw.co.uk/wp-content/uplo...letterMHRA.pdf

        https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-v...-proof-lethal/

        By the way the main point of my original post was that both times when Israel rolled out the third and fourth jabs they saw a large increase in "Covid deaths" that I suspect are mislabeled vaccine deaths.

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        • [QUOTE=Sid Belzberg;n217825]

          I am getting sick of debunking pharma-sponsored propaganda./QUOTE]

          I can empathize with you... I am directly affected by this in my everyday work... and the sophistication with which they are making fools of the medical profession in general (I am ashamed to say), to the detriment of patients, dwarfs even the most cunning theologicians in the history of mankind...

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          • Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
            Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

            I am getting sick of debunking pharma-sponsored propaganda.
            I can empathize with you... I am directly affected by this in my everyday work... and the sophistication with which they are making fools of the medical profession in general (I am ashamed to say), to the detriment of patients, dwarfs even the most cunning theologicians in the history of mankind...
            Thank you, Dilip for your courage to candidly talk about this. The ICC filings are now under investigation by the UK authorities that led to Prime Minister Boris Johnson removing COVID restrictions including vaccine mandates, mask mandates, and vaccine passports. Some articles are appearing that he may even soon step down as Prime Minister. This is probably too little too late for him.
            These ICC investigations I have no doubt will be expanded to other countries soon including Canada.
            https://worldfreedomalliance.org/au/...public-health/
            Here is an example of tremendous malfeasance by the Toronto Board of health that deleted this clip from the public record
            https://twitter.com/Liberal_Parent/s...97144308924421
            https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_bo...adcast_hearing
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            • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

              I'll try to slog my way through this on the weekend. Hopefully the answer to my question is in there somewhere. In the meantime here's some reading for you regarding ivermectin usage in Japan and India.

              https://www-thestar-com.cdn.ampproje...and-india.html
              Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

              The Toronto Star article neither proves or disproves the hypothesis that Ivermectin was responsible for Japan's and the Indian State of Uttar Pradesh's success. However Ivermectin has been used successfully for many decades against many diseases and is one of the safest drugs in the world. So, even if the above hypothesis was correct in the Star article that I highly doubt, as I have been saying for two years now interfering with a Dr's right to try a medically harmless compound is a true international crime against humanity and finally, this case is with the ICC,

              I do see many factual errors in the Toronto Star article but I am getting sick of debunking pharma-sponsored propaganda. I pray to see the day that these pharma corrupted health bureaucrats, pharma executives, and corrupted politicians are hung for crimes against humanity.

              That day may not be so far away
              https://www.docdroid.com/WUjv6iw/icc-complaint-7-1-pdf

              https://pjhlaw.co.uk/wp-content/uplo...letterMHRA.pdf

              https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-v...-proof-lethal/

              By the way the main point of my original post was that both times when Israel rolled out the third and fourth jabs they saw a large increase in "Covid deaths" that I suspect are mislabeled vaccine deaths.

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              On second thought, I don't have time to wade through all those links, especially if I'm expected to translate some of them from Japanese to English. I agree with your comment that the Star neither proves nor disproves anything. Here's an article from today's Globe that has more credible and knowledgeable authors:


              https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...w-revisionist/

              Regarding your and Dilip's comments on big pharma's corrupt behaviour, what we all need is an insider with the integrity and courage of a Daniel Ellsberg to step forward with the incriminating information.
              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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              • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                .....
                By the way the main point of my original post was that both times when Israel rolled out the third and fourth jabs they saw a large increase in "Covid deaths" that I suspect are mislabeled vaccine deaths. ....
                Clarification - I assume you meant to say: ...a large increase in "Covid deaths" that I suspect should have been labeled vaccine deaths. ...?
                "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                  Clarification - I assume you meant to say: ...a large increase in "Covid deaths" that I suspect should have been labeled vaccine deaths. ...?
                  Yes....by the way if you go to other countries you can see the same spike every time they roll out boosters.
                  https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
                  As far as "Daniel Eliasbergs insiders "are concerned...
                  are concerned here is the former head of research from Pfizer Michael Yeeden
                  https://thephaser.com/2022/01/premed...-vax-genocide/

                  This investigation part of the ICC is also interesting

                  https://worldfreedomalliance.org/au/...public-health/

                  As per your Globe and Mail article, try finding aby COVID Dr who has successfully treated 100s of patients if not 1000s that contradicts what I am saying and posts these in mainstream media. My ideas of credible are Dr's who have actually successfully treated high risk COVID+ patients. You won't find it in Canadian Media fro sure, do you know why? Because the first big lie is that COVID is not treatable pre hospitalization, that that all paths lead to vaccines. This narrative is fueled by pharma $ on all levels.

                  https://commonground.ca/covid-19-and...ws-initiative/

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                  • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                    ....
                    Your link to the MATH+ paper caught my attention. I've read almost all of it and have found it informative and interesting so far (I don't claim to have fully understood it all). Decided to take a break from reading and check out the doctors who wrote the paper. Varon appears to be the real deal: a compassionate physician who has sacrificed much for 'the team' in the fight against covid. Couldn't find much of interest on Iglesias and Meduri but for Marik and Kory there was some negative information and I wondered if you wanted to comment on it?

                    First Marik, from Wikipedia:

                    Marik is inventor of the "Marik protocol", also known as the "HAT" protocol, which proposes a combination ofhydrocortisone,vitamin C, andthiamineas a treatment for preventingsepsisfor people inintensive care.[5]Marik's own initial research, published inChestin 2017, showed a dramatic evidence of benefit.[20]The protocol received attention on social media andNational Public Radio, but drew criticism from the wider medical community for beingscience by press conference.[21][22][8]Subsequent independent research failed to replicate Marik's positive results, indicating the possibility that they had been compromised by bias.[8][23]Asystematic reviewof trials in 2021 found that the claimed benefits of the protocol could not be confirmed.[24]In March 2021, Marik was reprimanded by the Virginia Board of Medicine and ordered to complete additional education in prescribing practices after it was found he had prescribed drugs, including phenobarbital, oxycodone, tramadol, alprazolam, and diazepam, to people who were not his patients.[25][26]
                    Marik has written over 450 peer reviewed journal articles.[27]
                    COVID-19Edit

                    Marik is a co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of physicians and former journalists formed in April 2020 advocating for ineffective COVID-19 treatments, including the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin.[6][5]
                    Marik was lead author of a journal article on the efficacy of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, which had been provisionally accepted for publication by a Frontiers Media journal in early 2021, but which was subsequently rejected on account of what the publisher said were "a series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance" meaning that the article did "not offer an objective [or] balanced scientific contribution to the evaluation of ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19".[28]
                    In November 2021, the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted a paper written by Marik and others associated with the FLCCC, includingPierre Kory. The paper promoted a combination of vitamins and drugs as treatment for patients hospitalized for COVID-19. The combination was called MATH+ by the FLCCC and includedmethylprednisolone,ascorbic acid,thiamine,heparin, and other ingredients. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of hospitalized patients treated with MATH+, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment.[29][30][31]
                    Marik sued his employer, Sentara Health, in November 2021, attempting to override its ban on prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19. His clinical privileges at the Sentara Norfolk General Hospital were suspended shortly afterward, according to his attorney.[32] He resigned from the Eastern Virginia Medical School in December 2021.[33][34][35]

                    See my next post for Kory's info.


                    "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                    "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                    "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                    • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
                      ....
                      And now Kory's info, also from Wikipedia:

                      COVID-19

                      Further information: Ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic
                      Early in the COVID-19 pandemic, Kory advocated for using increasing doses of steroids and anticoagulants for hospitalized people with COVID-19, at a time when the general recommendation was merely for supportive care.[6] Kory sees subsequent evidence from the RECOVERY Trial, which showed benefit from lower doses of corticosteroids, as vindicating his approach; medical researcher Kevin J. Tracey has said it is still unknown whether Kory's approach was beneficial or harmful. Kory has used other drugs off-label in his treatment regimens, including famotidine and intravenous vitamin C.[6] Kory gave testimony as a guest of U.S. Senator Ron Johnson at a May 5, 2020, Senate hearing in which he called for use of steroids in COVID-19 patients.[5][7] He resigned from UW Health in May out of frustration of its reluctance to implement such measures.[6][8]

                      Kory is president and co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC),[a] a small U.S. organization of physicians and former journalists formed in April 2020 that advocates for ineffective COVID-19 treatments, including ivermectin.[9][1][2][10] The FLCCC falsely states that ivermectin reduces viral load and accelerates recovery in patients, while the World Health Organization, U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and European Medicines Agency advise against the use of ivermectin outside of clinical trials.[11][12][13]

                      On December 8, 2020, Kory was a witness at a Senate hearing called by the US Senate Homeland Security Committee Chair Ron Johnson,[14] which was criticized as promoting fringe ideas about COVID-19.[15] Kory described ivermectin as "miraculous" and as a "wonder drug" to be used against COVID-19. Video footage of his statements went viral on social media, receiving over one million views within a few days.[3] Kory became a leading advocate of the use of ivermectin throughout the pandemic, promoting a conspiracy theory that its true effectiveness was being suppressed by the "Gods of Science" who wanted to monopolize scientific information.[16] Kory resigned from Aurora St Luke's afterwards, claiming new contracts threatened to limit his freedom to speak.[7][8]

                      In November 2021 the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted a paper written by Kory, Paul E. Marik, and others. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of people treated for COVID-19 with the FLCCC's "MATH+" protocol, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment.[17][18]
                      "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                      "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                      "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                      • Great background research Peter. Thanks.

                        The Ontario site shows ICU now dipping below 600 and Aris's 7 day moving average peaking (I believe) at 608.
                        Hospitalization numbers coming down too. I think we are past the worst of it.

                        Stuff opening up on Monday, keep our fingers crossed the numbers keep coming down.



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                        • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                          Your link to the MATH+ paper caught my attention. I've read almost all of it and have found it informative and interesting so far (I don't claim to have fully understood it all). Decided to take a break from reading and check out the doctors who wrote the paper. Varon appears to be the real deal: a compassionate physician who has sacrificed much for 'the team' in the fight against covid. Couldn't find much of interest on Iglesias and Meduri but for Marik and Kory there was some negative information and I wondered if you wanted to comment on it?

                          First Marik, from Wikipedia:

                          Marik is inventor of the "Marik protocol", also known as the "HAT" protocol, which proposes a combination ofhydrocortisone,vitamin C, andthiamineas a treatment for preventingsepsisfor people inintensive care.[5]Marik's own initial research, published inChestin 2017, showed a dramatic evidence of benefit.[20]The protocol received attention on social media andNational Public Radio, but drew criticism from the wider medical community for beingscience by press conference.[21][22][8]Subsequent independent research failed to replicate Marik's positive results, indicating the possibility that they had been compromised by bias.[8][23]Asystematic reviewof trials in 2021 found that the claimed benefits of the protocol could not be confirmed.[24]In March 2021, Marik was reprimanded by the Virginia Board of Medicine and ordered to complete additional education in prescribing practices after it was found he had prescribed drugs, including phenobarbital, oxycodone, tramadol, alprazolam, and diazepam, to people who were not his patients.[25][26]
                          Marik has written over 450 peer reviewed journal articles.[27]
                          COVID-19Edit

                          Marik is a co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of physicians and former journalists formed in April 2020 advocating for ineffective COVID-19 treatments, including the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin.[6][5]
                          Marik was lead author of a journal article on the efficacy of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, which had been provisionally accepted for publication by a Frontiers Media journal in early 2021, but which was subsequently rejected on account of what the publisher said were "a series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance" meaning that the article did "not offer an objective [or] balanced scientific contribution to the evaluation of ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19".[28]
                          In November 2021, the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted a paper written by Marik and others associated with the FLCCC, includingPierre Kory. The paper promoted a combination of vitamins and drugs as treatment for patients hospitalized for COVID-19. The combination was called MATH+ by the FLCCC and includedmethylprednisolone,ascorbic acid,thiamine,heparin, and other ingredients. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of hospitalized patients treated with MATH+, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment.[29][30][31]
                          Marik sued his employer, Sentara Health, in November 2021, attempting to override its ban on prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19. His clinical privileges at the Sentara Norfolk General Hospital were suspended shortly afterward, according to his attorney.[32] He resigned from the Eastern Virginia Medical School in December 2021.[33][34][35]

                          See my next post for Kory's info.


                          Wikipedia sadly has become a source of pharma corrupted disinformation that smears reputations of Dr's whom prior to the pandemic had sterling reputations but committed the crime of saving hundreds of thousands of lives with cheap repurposed drugs thereby thwarting the "all roads lead to highly lucrative vaccine sales pharma business plan".


                          https://peckford42.wordpress.com/202...ws-initiative/

                          https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1487529363398615041
                          Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 29th January, 2022, 05:00 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                            Wikipedia sadly has become a source of pharma corrupted disinformation that smears reputations of Dr's whom prior to the pandemic had sterling reputations but committed the crime of saving hundreds of thousands of lives with cheap repurposed drugs thereby thwarting the "all roads lead to highly lucrative vaccine sales pharma business plan".


                            https://peckford42.wordpress.com/202...ws-initiative/

                            https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1487529363398615041
                            Unfortunately, this happens within many areas of Wikipedia. Whoever gets the position of content editor for a subject area often flaunts their power and prevents the inclusion of all contrary positions, even those with well-documented evidence. It is not a democratic site that respects different points of views.

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                            • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                              Sid, thank you so much for that link. Have always admired and respected Brian Peckford. Looking forward to working through his writings.
                              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                              • The Americas - Province of Ontario, Canada

                                For Friday, 22/1/28:

                                Hospitalizations: 3,439 (Down somewhat)
                                ICU: 597 (Very slightly below record)
                                Deaths: 56 (Down slightly)
                                New Cases: 4,855 (Going up again)

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                                https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...aign=bn_102670

                                ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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