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  • Tired of all the phone & email cons?

    I just had a thought about how to stop all the BS emails and phone calls.
    Are you tired of calls to clean your air ducts?
    Tired of winning millions of dollars from estates of corrupt Nigerian government officials?
    etc, etc, etc, etc.

    I say make them pay for their harassment and attacks on our mental health.

    The plan is to tax all phone calls and emails. A small fee, maybe $0.01 per thousand.
    All the phone companies and internet providers are required to collect the tax and remit to the government.
    The government in turn pays out 100% back to the citizens.

    What do you think?







  • #2
    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    I just had a thought about how to stop all the BS emails and phone calls.
    Are you tired of calls to clean your air ducts?
    Tired of winning millions of dollars from estates of corrupt Nigerian government officials?
    etc, etc, etc, etc.

    I say make them pay for their harassment and attacks on our mental health.

    The plan is to tax all phone calls and emails. A small fee, maybe $0.01 per thousand.
    All the phone companies and internet providers are required to collect the tax and remit to the government.
    The government in turn pays out 100% back to the citizens.

    What do you think?





    Great idea!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
      I just had a thought about how to stop all the BS emails and phone calls.
      Are you tired of calls to clean your air ducts?
      Tired of winning millions of dollars from estates of corrupt Nigerian government officials?
      etc, etc, etc, etc.

      I say make them pay for their harassment and attacks on our mental health.

      The plan is to tax all phone calls and emails. A small fee, maybe $0.01 per thousand.
      All the phone companies and internet providers are required to collect the tax and remit to the government.
      The government in turn pays out 100% back to the citizens.

      What do you think?





      Brilliant!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

        Great idea!
        You're advocating more taxes on all of us?
        Fred Harvey

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post

          You're advocating more taxes on all of us?
          Consumption (in this case of other people's time) taxes are a good thing, isn't it?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

            Consumption (in this case of other people's time) taxes are a good thing, isn't it?
            Sorry, but I don't want my phone calls to be taxed!
            Fred Harvey

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
              I just had a thought about how to stop all the BS emails and phone calls.
              Are you tired of calls to clean your air ducts?
              Tired of winning millions of dollars from estates of corrupt Nigerian government officials?
              etc, etc, etc, etc.

              I say make them pay for their harassment and attacks on our mental health.

              The plan is to tax all phone calls and emails. A small fee, maybe $0.01 per thousand.
              All the phone companies and internet providers are required to collect the tax and remit to the government.
              The government in turn pays out 100% back to the citizens.

              What do you think?





              I think you might need a new email address. How long have you had your current ewmal? What is the domain?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post

                Sorry, but I don't want my phone calls to be taxed!
                In that case, Bob G. may want to levy his 100% wealth tax on you :-)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

                  In that case, Bob G. may want to levy his 100% wealth tax on you :-)
                  My billionaire wealth tax proposal is one tax that perhaps maybe Fred would support.

                  To recap:

                  This is a new tax, above and beyond any other taxes.
                  The tax base is wealth, not income.

                  Each year, you calculate your wealth.
                  Wealth equal fair market value of all your assets, less fair market value of all your debts.

                  Wealth tax rate = 0% on the first $1 billion, 100% on wealth above $1 billion.

                  So unless Fred is a billionaire, his tax bill will be zero.

                  Only the rich pay, and they are still rich afterwards. Win win as they say.



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

                    My billionaire wealth tax proposal is one tax that perhaps maybe Fred would support.

                    To recap:

                    This is a new tax, above and beyond any other taxes.
                    The tax base is wealth, not income.

                    Each year, you calculate your wealth.
                    Wealth equal fair market value of all your assets, less fair market value of all your debts.

                    Wealth tax rate = 0% on the first $1 billion, 100% on wealth above $1 billion.

                    So unless Fred is a billionaire, his tax bill will be zero.

                    Only the rich pay, and they are still rich afterwards. Win win as they say.


                    Fred is not a billionaire! Assuming that this thread has not yet descended into the lunatic zones of other threads on here, I'm sure that you know well that there are many accountants/lawyers who would ensure that wealth was always less than a billion. IMO your proposal is a non-starter....
                    Fred Harvey

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post

                      Fred is not a billionaire! Assuming that this thread has not yet descended into the lunatic zones of other threads on here, I'm sure that you know well that there are many accountants/lawyers who would ensure that wealth was always less than a billion. IMO your proposal is a non-starter....
                      Thank you Fred. I totally agree. I assure you, I am not a crazy person. I don't expect my proposal will ever be implemented.

                      My billionaire wealth tax proposal is really just a concept idea. I hope to introduce the idea of a ceiling on personal wealth. Maybe acceptance of that idea would move us towards a more progressive tax system. I believe the huge wealth/income gap contributes to many other problems.
                      Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Tuesday, 17th January, 2023, 11:02 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

                        Thank you Fred. I totally agree. I assure you, I am not a crazy person. I don't expect my proposal will ever be implemented.

                        My billionaire wealth tax proposal is really just a concept idea. I hope to introduce the idea of a ceiling on personal wealth. Maybe acceptance of that idea would move us towards a more progressive tax system. I believe the huge wealth/income gap contributes to many other problems.
                        The unrealistic income gap we see all around is because corrupt governments (including the socialist and communist ones...remember Russia also has oligarchs...), to whom some of us don't mind giving a lot of power, make stupid laws which enable some, with devious help from banks, lawyers and accountants, to become insanely wealthy... The answer lies in getting rid of such corrupt laws, not in stealing money by direct taxation...
                        Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Tuesday, 17th January, 2023, 07:36 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bob Gillanders
                          .... I am not a crazy person. I don't expect my proposal will ever be implemented.

                          My billionaire wealth tax proposal is really just a concept idea. I hope to introduce the idea of a ceiling on personal wealth. Maybe acceptance of that idea would move us towards a more progressive tax system. I believe the huge wealth/income gap contributes to many other problems.



                          Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
                          The unrealistic income gap we see all around is because corrupt governments (including the socialist and communist ones...remember Russia also has oligarchs...), to whom some of us don't mind giving a lot of power, make stupid laws which enable some, with devious help from banks, lawyers and accountants, to become insanely wealthy... The answer lies in getting rid of such corrupt laws, not in stealing money by direct taxation...

                          Dilip, I think you are guilty of circular logic. You think you can drastically reduce the wealth gap by eliminating "stupid" "corrupt" laws.

                          The problem is, some entity must decide what laws QUALIFY as being "stupid" or "corrupt".

                          The entity that makes this decision is itself eventually going to become "stupid" and / or "corrupt" (if it isn't already that right off the bat).

                          You cannot eliminate human nature. Surely you've read the story of the frog and the scorpion.

                          The true path to enlightenment is to realize that everything goes in cycles. The United States started off with the idea that all men (they left out women) are created equal and everyone is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, as a protest against the rule of the British government. Now the American government, no matter which party controls the White House, the Congress and the Senate, is de facto the same as was the British system it protested against. If a group of humans populated Mars, it would start of idealistically trying to avoid becoming the United States system, and after 200 years it would be de facto the United States system.

                          Mr. Gillanders is also guilty of avoiding the inevitability of human greed. Taxing away individual wealth beyond some arbitrary level would only make the government the holder of all the wealth. The government would be the 1%.

                          Take real estate as an example. Much of a typical multi-billionaire's wealth is in real estate. If the typical multi-billionaire had to hand over to the government ownership of real estate, who would own the real estate? The government. Who would live in the palatial estates? Elite members of the government.

                          SOMEBODY has to own and enjoy all the palaces, all the yachts, all the private jets, etc.






                          Last edited by Pargat Perrer; Saturday, 21st January, 2023, 03:13 AM.

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