Life - How Should It Be Viewed?

[Sid Belzberg]

Ahhhh .... "based on" .....

The inclusion of pirates in Pastafarianism was part of Henderson's original letter to the Kansas State Board of Education, in an effort to illustrate that correlation does not imply causation.^[44] Henderson presented the argument that "global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s".^[11] A deliberately misleading graph accompanying the letter (with numbers humorously disordered on the x-axis) shows that as the number of pirates decreased, global temperatures increased.

A lot of things can be "based on" something solid ... the observations you speak of might be pretty solid, but so is the observation that the number of pirates in the world has decreased while global temperatures have increased.

Just shows that ANY theory CAN BE linked to observations.

Oh, IC, now you are going to school me in science, good to know!

[Pargat Perrer]

Glashow emphasizes that while theory is vital, it cannot completely replace the insights gained from actual experiments and observations.



"All that math" is based on experiments and observations. Something your hypoxic brain can't comprehend.

Ahhhh .... "based on" .....

The inclusion of pirates in Pastafarianism was part of Henderson's original letter to the Kansas State Board of Education, in an effort to illustrate that correlation does not imply causation.^[44] Henderson presented the argument that "global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s".^[11] A deliberately misleading graph accompanying the letter (with numbers humorously disordered on the x-axis) shows that as the number of pirates decreased, global temperatures increased.

A lot of things can be "based on" something solid ... the observations you speak of might be pretty solid, but so is the observation that the number of pirates in the world has decreased while global temperatures have increased.

Just shows that ANY theory CAN BE linked to observations.

[Sid Belzberg]

I'll respond to all that math with the following quote from Sheldon Glashow (you can look up who he is if you don't know...)

"I believe that the old tradition of learning about the world by looking at the world will survive, and we will not succeed in solving the problems of elementary particle physics by the power of pure thought itself."

So yeah.... Flying Spaghetti Monsters nor Virtual Plasma Waves are not going to help us understand anything given that neither can be proven nor disproven. Just ideas, nothing more, on equal footing. Math, like anything else, can be taken to an extreme where nothing is really understood except by those who want to ram their ideas down other people's throats.

Glashow emphasizes that while theory is vital, it cannot completely replace the insights gained from actual experiments and observations.

I'll respond to all that math

"All that math" is based on experiments and observations. Something your hypoxic brain can't comprehend.

[Pargat Perrer]

https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pop/article...complex-plasma

I'll respond to all that math with the following quote from Sheldon Glashow (you can look up who he is if you don't know...)

"I believe that the old tradition of learning about the world by looking at the world will survive, and we will not succeed in solving the problems of elementary particle physics by the power of pure thought itself."

So yeah.... Flying Spaghetti Monsters nor Virtual Plasma Waves are not going to help us understand anything given that neither can be proven nor disproven. Just ideas, nothing more, on equal footing. Math, like anything else, can be taken to an extreme where nothing is really understood except by those who want to ram their ideas down other people's throats.

[Sid Belzberg]

Really? Doesn't it seem like "Flying Spaghetti Monster" stuff? You can't explain something because it's too supernatural, just make something up and give it a fancy name ... "virtual plasma waves" .... yeah, that's the ticket!

https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pop/article...complex-plasma

[Pargat Perrer]

Congratulations Sid.....your contribution appears significant.

Bob A

Really? Doesn't it seem like "Flying Spaghetti Monster" stuff? You can't explain something because it's too supernatural, just make something up and give it a fancy name ... "virtual plasma waves" .... yeah, that's the ticket!

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Dilip, sorry to disappoint, but the romantic notion of instantaneous correlation of paired particles over galactic scale distances is proven to be a physical impossibility. Dr.Bell and others demonstrated amazing correlations, but none was proof of instantaneous correlation over vast distances. What they observed were simple wave interactions with harmonic waves.
This is now proven. Einstein was right. A simple D/C makes the standard model complete :-).

Breaking News!

Groundbreaking Research Sheds New Light on Quantum Entanglement April 15, 2024, New evidence supports the Nested Wave Hypothesis, offering a resolution to the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox. A team of researchers led by Sidney Belzberg has made a significant breakthrough in understanding the nature of quantum entanglement, one of the most puzzling phenomena in quantum mechanics. The team's findings, recently updated on the popular research platform ResearchGate, introduce the Nested Wave Hypothesis, a novel approach that could potentially resol ve the long-standing Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) paradox.

The EPR paradox, posed by Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky, and Nathan Rosen in 1935, highlights the apparent contradiction between the principles of quantum mechanics and the concept of local realism. The paradox arises from the observation that entangled particles seem to influence each other instantaneously, regardless of the distance between them, which appears to violate the principles of special relativity.

The Nested Wave Hypothesis, proposed by Alicia Belzberg and colleagues, offers a new perspective on this paradox by introducing the concept of a mediating wave (Wave 1) that interacts with entangled particles, modeled as quantum harmonic oscillators. This framework suggests that the apparent nonlocal (Faster Than the Speed Of Light) effects of entanglement arise from the complex interactions between the entangled particles, the mediating wave, and the environment rather than from instantaneous communication between the particles themselves.

The recent addition of groundbreaking evidence from Osamu Ishihara's research, "Entanglement in a Complex Plasma," published on March 27, 2024, has significantly strengthened the foundations of the Nested Wave Hypothesis. Ishihara's work demonstrates the emergence of entanglement between particles in a complex plasma, mediated by the exchange of virtual plasma waves. This finding closely aligns with the predictions of the Nested Wave Hypothesis and provides crucial experimental support for the theory.

"The Nested Wave Hypothesis, bolstered by Ishihara's groundbreaking research, represents a significant step forward in our understanding of quantum entanglement," said Sid Belzberg, the study's lead researcher. By offering a resolution to the EPR paradox, this framework paves the way for a deeper understanding of the nature of reality and the foundations of quantum mechanics." The implications of this research extend beyond the realm of theoretical physics. A better understanding of quantum entanglement could lead to significant advancements in quantum computing, quantum cryptography, and other emerging technologies that rely on the principles of quantum mechanics. The researchers plan to continue their work, focusing on further experimental validation of the theory and exploring its implications for various applications in quantum technology.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ial_Relativity

Thanks, Sid... the Nested-Wave model makes Entanglement even more realistic, though less 'romantic'! Realism is more exciting than faulty romanticism...

[Bob Armstrong]

Congratulations Sid.....your contribution appears significant.

Bob A

[Sid Belzberg]

Hi Dilip, sorry to disappoint, but the romantic notion of instantaneous correlation of paired particles over galactic scale distances is proven to be a physical impossibility. Dr.Bell and others demonstrated amazing correlations, but none was proof of instantaneous correlation over vast distances. What they observed were simple wave interactions with harmonic waves.
This is now proven. Einstein was right. A simple D/C makes the standard model complete :-).

Breaking News!

Groundbreaking Research Sheds New Light on Quantum Entanglement April 15, 2024, New evidence supports the Nested Wave Hypothesis, offering a resolution to the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox. A team of researchers led by Sidney Belzberg has made a significant breakthrough in understanding the nature of quantum entanglement, one of the most puzzling phenomena in quantum mechanics. The team's findings, recently updated on the popular research platform ResearchGate, introduce the Nested Wave Hypothesis, a novel approach that could potentially resol ve the long-standing Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) paradox.

The EPR paradox, posed by Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky, and Nathan Rosen in 1935, highlights the apparent contradiction between the principles of quantum mechanics and the concept of local realism. The paradox arises from the observation that entangled particles seem to influence each other instantaneously, regardless of the distance between them, which appears to violate the principles of special relativity.

The Nested Wave Hypothesis, proposed by Alicia Belzberg and colleagues, offers a new perspective on this paradox by introducing the concept of a mediating wave (Wave 1) that interacts with entangled particles, modeled as quantum harmonic oscillators. This framework suggests that the apparent nonlocal (Faster Than the Speed Of Light) effects of entanglement arise from the complex interactions between the entangled particles, the mediating wave, and the environment rather than from instantaneous communication between the particles themselves.

The recent addition of groundbreaking evidence from Osamu Ishihara's research, "Entanglement in a Complex Plasma," published on March 27, 2024, has significantly strengthened the foundations of the Nested Wave Hypothesis. Ishihara's work demonstrates the emergence of entanglement between particles in a complex plasma, mediated by the exchange of virtual plasma waves. This finding closely aligns with the predictions of the Nested Wave Hypothesis and provides crucial experimental support for the theory.

"The Nested Wave Hypothesis, bolstered by Ishihara's groundbreaking research, represents a significant step forward in our understanding of quantum entanglement," said Sid Belzberg, the study's lead researcher. By offering a resolution to the EPR paradox, this framework paves the way for a deeper understanding of the nature of reality and the foundations of quantum mechanics." The implications of this research extend beyond the realm of theoretical physics. A better understanding of quantum entanglement could lead to significant advancements in quantum computing, quantum cryptography, and other emerging technologies that rely on the principles of quantum mechanics. The researchers plan to continue their work, focusing on further experimental validation of the theory and exploring its implications for various applications in quantum technology.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ial_Relativity

[Dilip Panjwani]

Society & Politics



A big aspect of "society/Our life" is how we govern ourselves. It is through our "Politicians".


Bob A (Believer in Democracy; questioning whether their are flaws in our system)

Giving politicians the power to govern us is the biggest blunder we have made. They do not run in elections to serve us, and do it to become rich by hook or by crook. Libertarianism can give us back our freedom from the corruption of politicians...

[Bob Armstrong]

Society & Politics

When one discusses how we should view life, we need to get an accurate handle on how general society is functioning.

A big aspect of "society/Our life" is how we govern ourselves. It is through our "Politicians".

Our politicians present themselves to the elector in an "election campaign", usually after having to go through an arduous nomination process within the political party they are wishing to represent, and whose policies the espouse.

Now, GENERALLY, one is taught to tell the truth; it seems the "Natural Law" of Libertarianism holds the same. But the reality is that ethics/morality are situational, and there have to be exceptions to the more absolute rule (See the book, Situation Ethics).

How does this apply to a politician in an election campaign? Can we expect from our politicians the TRUTH?

If NOT, why not?

And is this rationale justifiable in the sense that society somehow "benefits" on a cost/benefit analysis from politicians lying to the elector?

Bob A (Believer in Democracy; questioning whether their are flaws in our system)

[Dilip Panjwani]

Thanks Pargat:

"STRASBOURG, France (AP) — Europe’s highest human rights court ruled Tuesday (24/4/9) that countries must better protect their people from the consequences of climate change, siding with a group of older Swiss women against their government in a landmark ruling that could have implications across the continent.

....the Swiss case.....sets a legal precedent in the Council of Europe’s 46 member states against which future lawsuits will be judged.

“This is a turning point,” said Corina Heri, an expert in climate change litigation at the University of Zurich.

Although activists have had success with lawsuits in domestic proceedings, this was the first time an international court ruled on climate change — and the first decision confirming that countries have an obligation to protect people from its effects, according to Heri.

She said it would open the door to more legal challenges in the countries that are members of the Council of Europe, which includes the 27 EU nations as well as many others from Britain to Turkey."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...pe/ar-BB1lmyvo

Bob A

Too bad Sid was not called upon to enlighten those 'judges'... he would have explained to them quite elaborately that the harm caused by the Swiss authorities enforcing the climate change agenda would be a myriad times higher than what the plaintiffs claimed to have suffered, and the 'compensation' for the plaintiffs would be only a tiny miniscule of the 'compensation' to everyone if the climate change activists had their way...

[Bob Armstrong]

Thanks Pargat:

"STRASBOURG, France (AP) — Europe’s highest human rights court ruled Tuesday (24/4/9) that countries must better protect their people from the consequences of climate change, siding with a group of older Swiss women against their government in a landmark ruling that could have implications across the continent.

....the Swiss case.....sets a legal precedent in the Council of Europe’s 46 member states against which future lawsuits will be judged.

“This is a turning point,” said Corina Heri, an expert in climate change litigation at the University of Zurich.

Although activists have had success with lawsuits in domestic proceedings, this was the first time an international court ruled on climate change — and the first decision confirming that countries have an obligation to protect people from its effects, according to Heri.

She said it would open the door to more legal challenges in the countries that are members of the Council of Europe, which includes the 27 EU nations as well as many others from Britain to Turkey."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...pe/ar-BB1lmyvo

Bob A

[Pargat Perrer]

The Natural Law enforcement would ensure that if any damage is done to the Nature which is owned by all humanity, the ones doing the damage have to appropriately compensate to the others for it.

And here we go ... "the climate crisis is a human rights crisis" ....

Switzerland just got legally convicted of denying human rights by failing to curb fossil fuel emissions.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...pe/ar-BB1lmyvo

This is now legal precedent! Dilip, you can finally admit that you want to stop all fossil fuel burning on Earth because it's against "Natural Law".

EDIT: maybe you can get a photo of yourself with the Swedish girl that is the voice of the environmental movement ... Greta something ... Thunberg? You can be there beside her with thumbs up as she was in the court when the verdict was announced.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Dilip:

My Post # 110: "Please provide me with your source for such an unusual, in my mind, position" (Dilip's # 106, # 109 & # 112); not answered; position just repeated by Dilip.

Pargat has weighed in on this debate about Trump; any other CT'ers have a position?

Bob A (Theist Community)

There is nothing unusual about the notion that the 'religious right' in the US, which forms a large chunk of Trump's support, would dump him if he openly declares that he is an atheist. It is possible that they do know that he is an atheist, but can tolerate that so long he pretends not to be so!!:-)